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The Lost King #2
When I Fall
Sometimes revenge is a kinder fate than justice. � Helios Dayspring
As king, Helios Dayspring is desperate to secure the future of his people and their new homeworld. His memories are slowly returning, bringing with them danger and betrayal.
As the king’s consort, Griffin Hawke wrestles with growing isolation from his lover. As Helios� secrets begin to come to light, he finds that he barely recognizes his lover anymore. Griffin is also haunted by his own secrets, as nightmares bring torture and death to his sleep.
When Helios and Griffin undertake a dangerous journey on behalf of their people, everything they fought for could be lost. Surrounded by enemies and allies, seductive aliens and dangerous operatives, Helios and Griffin find themselves tested to their physical and moral limits. Not knowing who to trust, they can only turn to each other.
Will you be there to catch me when I fall?
Publisher's Note: This book contains explicit sexual situations, graphic language, and material that some readers may find objectionable: male/male sexual practices, violence.
As king, Helios Dayspring is desperate to secure the future of his people and their new homeworld. His memories are slowly returning, bringing with them danger and betrayal.
As the king’s consort, Griffin Hawke wrestles with growing isolation from his lover. As Helios� secrets begin to come to light, he finds that he barely recognizes his lover anymore. Griffin is also haunted by his own secrets, as nightmares bring torture and death to his sleep.
When Helios and Griffin undertake a dangerous journey on behalf of their people, everything they fought for could be lost. Surrounded by enemies and allies, seductive aliens and dangerous operatives, Helios and Griffin find themselves tested to their physical and moral limits. Not knowing who to trust, they can only turn to each other.
Will you be there to catch me when I fall?
Publisher's Note: This book contains explicit sexual situations, graphic language, and material that some readers may find objectionable: male/male sexual practices, violence.
150 pages, Kindle Edition
First published October 10, 2011
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Belinda McBride
64books399followersBelinda is an award-winning, top selling author of erotic romance, speculative fiction and LGBTQ romance. She lives in far Northern California with her family and a pack of Siberian Huskies.
A graduate of CSU Chico, she managed to attend the notorious party school without once getting drunk, arrested or appearing in a "Girls Gone Wild" video. Her main focus of study was classical and archival history, cultural anthropology and
theatre arts.
A graduate of CSU Chico, she managed to attend the notorious party school without once getting drunk, arrested or appearing in a "Girls Gone Wild" video. Her main focus of study was classical and archival history, cultural anthropology and
theatre arts.
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November 1, 2011
I think this book ruined the first one for me :(
Griff was an asshole I did not like his POV or his thoughts. He was an insecure jerk the whole book.
I was bored with all the endless political discussions and never connecting with Griff made this impossible to enjoy
ETA: I am changing my rating from one to two stars because the writing was good I just didn't like the characters or plot
Griff was an asshole I did not like his POV or his thoughts. He was an insecure jerk the whole book.
I was bored with all the endless political discussions and never connecting with Griff made this impossible to enjoy
ETA: I am changing my rating from one to two stars because the writing was good I just didn't like the characters or plot
January 18, 2017
This follows on from book 1 (An Uncommon Whore), so you'll really need to read this beforehand!
And to make this clear: this one is told from Grif's POV.
Helios has been king for a year. It's a job he relishes, but it burdens him down at the same time. He's become more serious and introvert, and although Grif is at his side as his consort, it seems Lio doesn't share everything with him anymore. At times Grif feels shoved aside, finding out about talks and decisions only afterwards, and what's worse, he's sure that Lio is keeping bigger secrets from him.
For a man who has always made clear that he likes to be in control, this is a situation Grif finds increasingly difficult to deal with. And he starts doubting himself, Lio and their relationship. And to make matters more complicated, Grif has got a secret of his own he hasn't been able to share with Lio. And let me tell you - it's a biggie!
There's a decided atmosphere of two men deeply in love, but torn apart by circumstance. An undercurrent of bittersweet melancholy runs deeply through most of the book - and it was lovely! Both men seem to try desperately to hold on to what they've got, but not quite sure whether it will work. And so we get gorgeous moments like this:
tender, heart-wrenching lines like that:
Grif: "You will not fall."
Lio: "And if I do? ... If I fall?"
Grif: "I'll catch you"
mingling with deep felt anguish,
I realized how little I know of my lover. He'd been changing during this past year, becoming a person, who was a mystery to me.
as well as self-doubt,
I glanced into the mirror and was transfixed by the fierce, surly expression. The harsh image reflected made me feel... sick.
and a good portion of sex (Not sure all those BJs were necessary - *G*)
In short both men have to re-evaluate their relationship, whilst carving a future out for their people and trying to stay alive. Great stuff for a plot.
I also appreciated that the horrible events of the past were not just cast aside. The serious issues of the children after what they witnessed was dealt with sensitively, and my heart just broke for them. And for Grief, too.
I did enjoy the writing as a whole much better than in part 1, as I found a lot more depth in world-building and plot development. What made me grin was the author's obvious love for long hair which heavily features in all love scenes. Even Grif gets to let his hair grow in the end! *G*
This was fun and even more "Star Warish" than the first book.
And to make this clear: this one is told from Grif's POV.
Helios has been king for a year. It's a job he relishes, but it burdens him down at the same time. He's become more serious and introvert, and although Grif is at his side as his consort, it seems Lio doesn't share everything with him anymore. At times Grif feels shoved aside, finding out about talks and decisions only afterwards, and what's worse, he's sure that Lio is keeping bigger secrets from him.
For a man who has always made clear that he likes to be in control, this is a situation Grif finds increasingly difficult to deal with. And he starts doubting himself, Lio and their relationship. And to make matters more complicated, Grif has got a secret of his own he hasn't been able to share with Lio. And let me tell you - it's a biggie!
There's a decided atmosphere of two men deeply in love, but torn apart by circumstance. An undercurrent of bittersweet melancholy runs deeply through most of the book - and it was lovely! Both men seem to try desperately to hold on to what they've got, but not quite sure whether it will work. And so we get gorgeous moments like this:
tender, heart-wrenching lines like that:
Grif: "You will not fall."
Lio: "And if I do? ... If I fall?"
Grif: "I'll catch you"
mingling with deep felt anguish,
I realized how little I know of my lover. He'd been changing during this past year, becoming a person, who was a mystery to me.
as well as self-doubt,
I glanced into the mirror and was transfixed by the fierce, surly expression. The harsh image reflected made me feel... sick.
and a good portion of sex (Not sure all those BJs were necessary - *G*)
In short both men have to re-evaluate their relationship, whilst carving a future out for their people and trying to stay alive. Great stuff for a plot.
I also appreciated that the horrible events of the past were not just cast aside. The serious issues of the children after what they witnessed was dealt with sensitively, and my heart just broke for them. And for Grief, too.
I did enjoy the writing as a whole much better than in part 1, as I found a lot more depth in world-building and plot development. What made me grin was the author's obvious love for long hair which heavily features in all love scenes. Even Grif gets to let his hair grow in the end! *G*
This was fun and even more "Star Warish" than the first book.
February 7, 2017
4 strong stars.
Part 2 of this series (can’t be read as a standalone) : even better than book 1.
Helios and Griffin are back to their new “home� planet where everything has to be built to make “Neo Domus� a safe and prosperous place.
This part is full of intrigues and plots, as Helios assumes his role as King and Griffin as his consort, both having to deal with the established homeland council but also the consortium of the surrounding planets. Add in the mix the weight of secrets. All this take a huge toll on Helios and Griffin’s relationship.
It also deals with the aftermath of the war that decimated the population and this part was really heartbreaking as Griffin’s children, felling safe again, let all their nightmares and fear surface.
I loved this atmosphere full of suspicion, doubts, anguish, but also longing, hope and love. And the steam is still as good as it was in book 1.
Helios and Griffin’s journey doesn’t disappoint and is very entertaining.
Part 2 of this series (can’t be read as a standalone) : even better than book 1.
Helios and Griffin are back to their new “home� planet where everything has to be built to make “Neo Domus� a safe and prosperous place.
This part is full of intrigues and plots, as Helios assumes his role as King and Griffin as his consort, both having to deal with the established homeland council but also the consortium of the surrounding planets. Add in the mix the weight of secrets. All this take a huge toll on Helios and Griffin’s relationship.
It also deals with the aftermath of the war that decimated the population and this part was really heartbreaking as Griffin’s children, felling safe again, let all their nightmares and fear surface.
I loved this atmosphere full of suspicion, doubts, anguish, but also longing, hope and love. And the steam is still as good as it was in book 1.
Helios and Griffin’s journey doesn’t disappoint and is very entertaining.
February 26, 2017
3.5 Stars
This review is for both books and . You really need to read them together, they do not stand well on their own.
Can you believe I have had both books on my Kindle for nearly 2 years? That seems to happen to me a lot, but I'm working on reading my fairly massive TBR. One thing that always made me pass up these books, even though the blurbs obviously appealed to me (or I wouldn't have bought the books) is I don't really find the covers appealing. Just personal preference. I had been told, by many people, however, that the story was good, so I finally decided to see for myself.
I did enjoy both books, I am happy to say. I can't help thinking, though, that the story would have been better served by having both books 1 & 2 in a single volume. I get -- I think -- why it was put out as 2 books (POV switch and the year time jump), but that could have been made to work. In , there is little to no conflict or angst. All of that conflict and angst is in . Though most of the angst came from Griffin's insecurities and jealousy, which I never really understood.
Still, I enjoyed Helios and Griffin and am glad they are secure with one another by the end of . I do wish I had not waited so long to read these stories, but better late than never, right?
I'm off to read the third book now, which features two different MC's.
This review is for both books and . You really need to read them together, they do not stand well on their own.
Can you believe I have had both books on my Kindle for nearly 2 years? That seems to happen to me a lot, but I'm working on reading my fairly massive TBR. One thing that always made me pass up these books, even though the blurbs obviously appealed to me (or I wouldn't have bought the books) is I don't really find the covers appealing. Just personal preference. I had been told, by many people, however, that the story was good, so I finally decided to see for myself.
I did enjoy both books, I am happy to say. I can't help thinking, though, that the story would have been better served by having both books 1 & 2 in a single volume. I get -- I think -- why it was put out as 2 books (POV switch and the year time jump), but that could have been made to work. In , there is little to no conflict or angst. All of that conflict and angst is in . Though most of the angst came from Griffin's insecurities and jealousy, which I never really understood.
Still, I enjoyed Helios and Griffin and am glad they are secure with one another by the end of . I do wish I had not waited so long to read these stories, but better late than never, right?
I'm off to read the third book now, which features two different MC's.
February 28, 2013
'When I Fall' takes place about one year after the end of book one, . If you have not read that first book you won’t want to read this review because it contains spoilers.
We see things from Griffin’s POV this time which is great because he remained a bit of an enigma in the first book. He has rescued Helios from his life as a slave/prostitute and brought him back to a new homeland where Helios will claim his rightful place as king.
Helios Dayspring
Here's what I loved about this installment of Griffin’s and Helios� story:
we witness Griffin's inner turmoil and insecurities and how desperately in love with Helios he is
we see how the previous trauma to themselves and their people has affected Griffin and Helios and how changes in their social positions affects their relationship.
the incredibly intimate moments between Griffin and Helios that have a thread of unease or distrust running beneath them
the action; the court politics and intrigue that plays out (there is also a traitor that needs ferreting out)
This was a very satisfying addition to this series and I look forward to the next, presumably about Markus.
We see things from Griffin’s POV this time which is great because he remained a bit of an enigma in the first book. He has rescued Helios from his life as a slave/prostitute and brought him back to a new homeland where Helios will claim his rightful place as king.
Helios Dayspring
Here's what I loved about this installment of Griffin’s and Helios� story:
we witness Griffin's inner turmoil and insecurities and how desperately in love with Helios he is
we see how the previous trauma to themselves and their people has affected Griffin and Helios and how changes in their social positions affects their relationship.
the incredibly intimate moments between Griffin and Helios that have a thread of unease or distrust running beneath them
the action; the court politics and intrigue that plays out (there is also a traitor that needs ferreting out)
This was a very satisfying addition to this series and I look forward to the next, presumably about Markus.
April 18, 2017
4.5 stars!
OMG! If I thought that , Book 1 was hot, sensual, alluring and all that alongside a pretty much well-developed worldbuilding... What can I say about Book 2 ???
Belinda McBride outdoes herself in bringing a whole plethora of new species and peoples into Lio and Grif's lives!!! Again, we see two different worlds: Neo Domus - king Helios' new home - still struggling to be safe and self-sufficient, with its beautiful landscapes and colourful nature:
And Prima Vera - an Interstellar Coalition planet - with high-tech, spacecraft-like infrastructure and sunny, lush environment:
In this instalment of our Uncommon Whore's adventures we meet a lot of new creatures: the Zamoran, the Vash, the AmWere, the Somian - many of whom become Helios and Griffin's new friends and allies and also their long-time enemies: the Landaun (and let me just say: ARGH!!!)
This instalment is entirely Grif's POV for which I'm grateful, as we can see his powerful emotions (and not only possitive, mind you!) and his perception of Lio's politics and deeds...
The two of them get more depth, more insight in this part. It takes place one year after the events of and so their actions are driven by totally different motivations now...
Lio becomes a full-blood King, a true political leader of his people.
And Grif takes up the role of King's Consort, fiercely protective and supportive and...
I don't want to spoil any more plot to you but with all that happens and with all the new, important protagonists, there's only one final thought that comes to my mind: this part is about the power of FAMILY and their feelings.
Highly recommended for eventful sci-fi, emotional space opera fans!
It should be read after my review of which you can find here.
OMG! If I thought that , Book 1 was hot, sensual, alluring and all that alongside a pretty much well-developed worldbuilding... What can I say about Book 2 ???
Belinda McBride outdoes herself in bringing a whole plethora of new species and peoples into Lio and Grif's lives!!! Again, we see two different worlds: Neo Domus - king Helios' new home - still struggling to be safe and self-sufficient, with its beautiful landscapes and colourful nature:
And Prima Vera - an Interstellar Coalition planet - with high-tech, spacecraft-like infrastructure and sunny, lush environment:
In this instalment of our Uncommon Whore's adventures we meet a lot of new creatures: the Zamoran, the Vash, the AmWere, the Somian - many of whom become Helios and Griffin's new friends and allies and also their long-time enemies: the Landaun (and let me just say: ARGH!!!)
This instalment is entirely Grif's POV for which I'm grateful, as we can see his powerful emotions (and not only possitive, mind you!) and his perception of Lio's politics and deeds...
The two of them get more depth, more insight in this part. It takes place one year after the events of and so their actions are driven by totally different motivations now...
Lio becomes a full-blood King, a true political leader of his people.
And Grif takes up the role of King's Consort, fiercely protective and supportive and...
I don't want to spoil any more plot to you but with all that happens and with all the new, important protagonists, there's only one final thought that comes to my mind: this part is about the power of FAMILY and their feelings.
Highly recommended for eventful sci-fi, emotional space opera fans!
It should be read after my review of which you can find here.
November 1, 2011
Who were the characters is this book?!?! They certainly were not the same Lio and Grif from . What happened to them because they were so great and these two guys were so boring?! First off, the story is told from Griffin's POV and it turns out that he is a really boring and depressing character with ridiculous jealousy and insecurity issues. Helios is keeping secrets from him, but Griffin is also keeping some pretty major secrets himself. Neither of them have trust and faith in their relationship...blah, blah blah. So it goes on and on like that for the entire book. And then it doesn't even end with a HEA.
I loved the 1st book but this was nearly a dnf for me. It was overrun with planet politics that I didn't find interesting and the sex wasn't hot because I didn't like either of the characters. Even the identity of the traitor was ridiculously obvious. I do wonder if I would have enjoyed this better if I wouldn't have just read because the two books just don't compare.
Oddly enough I still want to find out what happens next because it ends on a bit of a cliffhanger and I do really like Belinda's writing. But I don't think I will read the next story if the MCs are Helios and Griffin.
This story just wasn't for me. :( 1.5 Stars
I loved the 1st book but this was nearly a dnf for me. It was overrun with planet politics that I didn't find interesting and the sex wasn't hot because I didn't like either of the characters. Even the identity of the traitor was ridiculously obvious. I do wonder if I would have enjoyed this better if I wouldn't have just read because the two books just don't compare.
Oddly enough I still want to find out what happens next because it ends on a bit of a cliffhanger and I do really like Belinda's writing. But I don't think I will read the next story if the MCs are Helios and Griffin.
This story just wasn't for me. :( 1.5 Stars
January 19, 2014
Ah, SF. My greatest and first love. Too much M/M Science Fiction is mislabeled. It's M/M romance that someone stuck on another planet. It may as well be down at the corner bar or the local club.Without the imaginative settings, tech, speculative futures, well-developed alien cultures, don't bother to label it SF. Just stick to your contemporary writing and leave the SF fans alone.
Rant over. Belinda has written Science Fiction. My biggest complaint(s) about the first book were that the universe building was a bit sketchy and the coincidences a bit too neat. This second book is the perfect companion to the first, in that it truly addresses so many of those issues.
Here, we see what motivated the baddies to invade Helios and Griff's world in the first place and come to understand a little better why they spared Helios rather than execute him with the rest of his family. We also see that the years of separation, the habits of keeping secrets, and the responsibilities heaped on both our MC's are wearing on their relationship. The first book was entirely in Helios's POV, and I mourned not being allowed Griff's. Here we get Griff - all Griff, all the time - and our brave, stalwart warrior of the first book is slowly unraveling at the seams. Partly, this is delayed trauma reaction, for both of them, partly it's coming to terms with having to share Helios with an entire planet.
While the alien races are still touched on only here and there, we do get a better picture of the galaxy and its government, of the issues facing our boys at home, of the economics and social dynamics involved. All the stuff the SF fan lives for. There's a bit of tech thrown in here and there as well (always a plus :) )
This is not a happy book. Much of it has the MC's wrapped in increasing isolation and anxious guilt. (But never fear, it is a romance. You know the drill.) I enjoyed it, in many ways, more than the first, since there was more care taken with setting and history, with motivations and consequences. My only niggles would be what felt like a bit of a rushed ending and the need for Griff to regain and redeem himself (I think he's on the right track, but he's still working on it.) I fully anticipate another, since we've been introduced to Raven Hawke, huge Weres, and the possibility that Markus Dayspring was not a traitor (omg!) With so many teasers left lying around, there better be another. (Are you listening, Belinda?)
A very solid 85% - a truly enjoyable read for the SF fan.
Rant over. Belinda has written Science Fiction. My biggest complaint(s) about the first book were that the universe building was a bit sketchy and the coincidences a bit too neat. This second book is the perfect companion to the first, in that it truly addresses so many of those issues.
Here, we see what motivated the baddies to invade Helios and Griff's world in the first place and come to understand a little better why they spared Helios rather than execute him with the rest of his family. We also see that the years of separation, the habits of keeping secrets, and the responsibilities heaped on both our MC's are wearing on their relationship. The first book was entirely in Helios's POV, and I mourned not being allowed Griff's. Here we get Griff - all Griff, all the time - and our brave, stalwart warrior of the first book is slowly unraveling at the seams. Partly, this is delayed trauma reaction, for both of them, partly it's coming to terms with having to share Helios with an entire planet.
While the alien races are still touched on only here and there, we do get a better picture of the galaxy and its government, of the issues facing our boys at home, of the economics and social dynamics involved. All the stuff the SF fan lives for. There's a bit of tech thrown in here and there as well (always a plus :) )
This is not a happy book. Much of it has the MC's wrapped in increasing isolation and anxious guilt. (But never fear, it is a romance. You know the drill.) I enjoyed it, in many ways, more than the first, since there was more care taken with setting and history, with motivations and consequences. My only niggles would be what felt like a bit of a rushed ending and the need for Griff to regain and redeem himself (I think he's on the right track, but he's still working on it.) I fully anticipate another, since we've been introduced to Raven Hawke, huge Weres, and the possibility that Markus Dayspring was not a traitor (omg!) With so many teasers left lying around, there better be another. (Are you listening, Belinda?)
A very solid 85% - a truly enjoyable read for the SF fan.
June 8, 2013
Second installment of 'An Uncommon Whore' and another really good read. 4 stars and a big
This tale is told from Griffin's POV as opposed to 'An Uncommon Whore' which was from Helios' POV. In this one, we learn that Helios is unsurprisingly struggling with the burdens of leadership/kingship, which is further complicated by the fact that the council on Neo Domus will not sanction his marriage to Griffin. The couple spend less and less time together, political intrigue, plotting and general pigheadedness on both their parts also come into the mix, so when their party eventually arrives on another planet to find out whether they have been accepted as a member of the Interstellar Coalition of Planets, assassins are waiting..... They discover who has been betraying them, they find old friends...and make new ones, and find that some of their old secrets are no longer secret. On the downside, some of their allies are murdered, others including Griff just about survive.
This was a great follow-up to AUW, and although there was a lot of politicking involved, it didn't detract too much from the story for me. Next up 'The Bacchi' which features several of the characters from this book but is not a sequel.
May 2, 2024
Secrets on top of Secrets
October 12, 2011
Griffin and Helios are back!!!!
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Sooooo I'm VERY happy, after the second of the uncommon whore serie, but probably I should not... This story is told only by Griffin, and certainly he is not the happiest person on the universe.
All the book is about Helios, trying to be a king, and protect his planet from another alien invasion.... And Griffin, trying to accept Helios love, and be the king future consort.
I love both characters, their secrets, and their own inner demons.
Helios want to remember, know what he was... Grffin want to forget, because his memories are blood and pain. They are the opposite.... they are perfect to each other.
I adore the new characters, and I'm taking one star just because I think the plot could have been a little more interesting, and the fight well explained (I love sword fights, so it was too rushed in my view)... So yes, it's a very good book, and I think it's a 4 star...
* Don't miss it, if you liked the first book you MUST read this book too!*
And now... I'm anxiously waiting for the next one... And the next step (I hope) Helios and Griffin will take.
October 27, 2011
3 stars? I need to try and explain this rating. There are a couple of things to consider. I'm not a sci-fi fan. I wish I liked sci-fi more but it's rare and I have to strike when the brief mood is hot. I did like the first book very much and was looking forward to this one. Also this book was almost not finished at about 40%, but Jenre's review compelled me to continue. It didn't end up abandoned and I did like it.
Sci-fi aside, this book is told from Griffin's point of view and we were not connecting at all. The guy was depressing the hell out of me, truth be told and I found myself missing Pasha/Helios' voice. It took a bit but I eventually found myself intrigued by the world, events and characters surrounding the couple and the last quarter of the book made it all worthwhile. Bottom line, I liked seeing everything that happened through Griffin's eyes, he is a good storyteller and things got exciting, but I didn't like being in his head and dealing with all his internal struggles...if that makes sense. Glad I stuck it out.
Sci-fi aside, this book is told from Griffin's point of view and we were not connecting at all. The guy was depressing the hell out of me, truth be told and I found myself missing Pasha/Helios' voice. It took a bit but I eventually found myself intrigued by the world, events and characters surrounding the couple and the last quarter of the book made it all worthwhile. Bottom line, I liked seeing everything that happened through Griffin's eyes, he is a good storyteller and things got exciting, but I didn't like being in his head and dealing with all his internal struggles...if that makes sense. Glad I stuck it out.
November 2, 2017
4.2 Stars
Just as good as the first one of the series, if for slightly different reasons. I truly adored getting more of Griffin's POV and as such learning more about his trust & self-esteem issues, about how he feels being the right hand of a King and how heart-breaking it is to know the secrets he shared with Helios but they're memories of a happier time that Helios can't remember.
I think I'd totally read a novella about the two of them and Suzan...and I know Griff says she didn't survive but something in me really wants there to be a red-headed daughter out there, tracked by or being held by the Landaun.
Also, I love it when a character can admit to his mistakes. They all had the wrong people pegged as conspirators and traitors...and won't that make Markus' story interesting?! Definitely putting it on the TBR shortlist (along with The Bacchi).
Scifi will always be my first love and stories like this only make it more obvious why that is...
Just as good as the first one of the series, if for slightly different reasons. I truly adored getting more of Griffin's POV and as such learning more about his trust & self-esteem issues, about how he feels being the right hand of a King and how heart-breaking it is to know the secrets he shared with Helios but they're memories of a happier time that Helios can't remember.
I think I'd totally read a novella about the two of them and Suzan...and I know Griff says she didn't survive but something in me really wants there to be a red-headed daughter out there, tracked by or being held by the Landaun.
Also, I love it when a character can admit to his mistakes. They all had the wrong people pegged as conspirators and traitors...and won't that make Markus' story interesting?! Definitely putting it on the TBR shortlist (along with The Bacchi).
Scifi will always be my first love and stories like this only make it more obvious why that is...
August 4, 2012
I loved this series and what an interesting way to write it. It was like reading one book with two parts and because of that this review is for both books.
The first book, An Uncommon Whore is written with Helios POV and the second book When I Fall is written with Griffins POV, so completely different from each other but then that’s to be expected Helios and Griffins are completely different men! Helios so very sweet with a great sense of humor made his story light, loving, sexy and often funny. We learn how Helios became a whore without a memory of who he really is and who the mysterious gorgeous man is that comes to take him away but something does tell him to trust this man with his life. Griffin grabs Helios and runs with him taking him home to his destiny, this story is about their journey to that home and their journey back to each other. It’s a shorter story than the second one but written in a way that I quickly became attached to these two men.
When I Fall is written with Griffin’s POV, and I loved this book just a tiny bit more than the first maybe the fact that right from the beginning of An Uncommon Whore I was totally smitten with this man. He was a strong, loyal and courageous protector a man who takes keeping what he loves safe very seriously but there was this other side to him that tugged at my heartstrings a beautiful man, a gentle lover and father who wanted nothing more than to have a home with Helios, their children and himself. When I Fall is the story of how Griffin and Helios fight to have that home. It’s a much more serious book than the first one but for me it was perfect!
Oh and I forgot my favorite thing there is that all important HEA!!!!!
October 27, 2011
I had trouble getting into the first half, but stuck with it and loved the second half almost as much as the first book.
Besides Grif's sulking and self-pity, part of what made the beginning so difficult for me was that I’d just re-read , so it was glaringly obvious to me that Maia and Lauren had swapped characters. In the first book, Maia is blonde while Lauren is the image of Grif and also scarred. In the second, suddenly Lauren is the scar-free blonde and Maia is the mini-Grif.
I had to go back and find the description in the first book to be sure, because that seemed too bizarre to have not been caught in edits. So I think my reading was more cautious for a while after that, leery of what else might trip me up. But it won me over by the end, and now I’m looking forward to reading more about Markus and Caius.
Besides Grif's sulking and self-pity, part of what made the beginning so difficult for me was that I’d just re-read , so it was glaringly obvious to me that Maia and Lauren had swapped characters. In the first book, Maia is blonde while Lauren is the image of Grif and also scarred. In the second, suddenly Lauren is the scar-free blonde and Maia is the mini-Grif.
I had to go back and find the description in the first book to be sure, because that seemed too bizarre to have not been caught in edits. So I think my reading was more cautious for a while after that, leery of what else might trip me up. But it won me over by the end, and now I’m looking forward to reading more about Markus and Caius.
October 11, 2022
3.5 Stars
I read the original publication of this several years ago, and like book one I could not tell you what content has been added. The ending is rather open ended, though, and an HFN. I do recall a third book, that was centered around Helios' cousin, Marcus... I don't recall if that story wrapped anything up for Helios and Griffin, though, or the other loose threads from books 1 & 2. It doesn't look like that one is presently available, so I don't know if it's being expanded as well. I may dig up the copy I bought years ago to revisit it.
I read the original publication of this several years ago, and like book one I could not tell you what content has been added. The ending is rather open ended, though, and an HFN. I do recall a third book, that was centered around Helios' cousin, Marcus... I don't recall if that story wrapped anything up for Helios and Griffin, though, or the other loose threads from books 1 & 2. It doesn't look like that one is presently available, so I don't know if it's being expanded as well. I may dig up the copy I bought years ago to revisit it.
Shelved as 'glbt-to-read'
October 4, 2011Yeah - about time!!!
October 29, 2023
I enjoyed this book very much. Worldbuilding was interesting. There IS A PLOT!!! I love the main cnaracters, Helios and Griffin. They reminded me so much of Damen and Laurent from Captive Prince. (no one can ever beat Laurent, imo). Lovely ending.
A minor bugbear... after waking up from a coma of 6 months, one does not in a few days, perform a handjob on the other. That is ridiculous.
A minor bugbear... after waking up from a coma of 6 months, one does not in a few days, perform a handjob on the other. That is ridiculous.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
December 18, 2011
I’m not sure what’s going on with sequels lately but they haven’t been living up to the greatness of the first books. Sadly, When I Fall is no different. An Uncommon Whore was such a vivid and wonderful book that I’m so disappointed and saddened in When I Fall. It has the same world and excellent writing but after that I’m left to wonder exactly what I read. The characters feel very different from the first book and unfortunately I couldn’t connect to either one. There are too many secrets, too many political plots and no real resolution or happy ending. Instead the happy couple just ignores their many, many problems in a move that makes me think these two actually won’t end up together.
When I Fall is told from Griffin’s first person point of view (as opposed to the first book from the more dynamic narrator of Helios) and picks up a short time after Helios has returned to their people as King. Now Griffin and Helios try to maneuver the tricky political waters while their personal relationship suffers. At the same time their people are struggling to overcome the vicious attack they suffered and fear new attacks in their vulnerable position.
I’d heard that some readers didn’t appreciate the first part of the book but soon got into the second half. Sadly I couldn’t really get into this book at all. I never ended up connecting with Griffin or Helios on any significant level and was left feeling both men are irrational and not well suited to each other. Griffin spends almost the entire story in his head lamenting his dead wife, the secrets Helios is keeping, his own insecurities, fears, and a thousand other mental masturbations. While I was more than willing to go with the story and understand Griffin’s fears and concerns, he never seems to get over himself or talk with Helios, instead the two have sex and ignore the problems.
This is where my biggest pet peeve about this story comes in. The two gradually move away from each other because both are keeping secrets and frankly don’t trust each other. There are numerous instances where Griffin or Helios discover the other is keeping a secret and pretty much flat out say they don’t trust the other person. In fact the big ending fight scene is all because Helios didn’t trust Griffin. So clearly these two men have some pretty big issues in their relationship. Yet none of it is resolved or worked out. Instead they just ignore it, like they do the entire book, and have more sex. I get that these two love each other desperately but they have no ability to communicate and Griffin’s deathbed revelations are absurd. These sudden insights don’t solve any problems at all, which leaves me wondering how these two are ever going to work out. In fact I actually think they won’t and that really ruins the book for me.
What did work for me is the excellent writing. The author has a real flair for prose so the book flies by with ease. The vivid world building is much better and more thorough in this offering, with many other species introduced and playing prominent roles. These characters may be background but they definitely added to the wealth of the scenery and world. I liked the intricate politics and how boring and difficult such things are as that feels like a real inclusion. Likewise the affects of such a brutal and abrupt attack should have long reaching issues and it’s nice to see the story tackle that straight on without much watering down.
While there are some definite good things about the story, ultimately this didn’t work anywhere near as well as the first book and in fact makes me wonder about this strong, dynamic, and hot love affair that steamed up the pages of Uncommon Whore. While there is a lot of sex in WIF, it doesn’t have the same intensity and edge because the characters themselves feel unhappy with no resolution in sight. I’ll be curious to read any additional books in this series as I like the series and author’s writing quite a bit but I do feel as if this sequel took the shine off the first book and didn’t deliver. I really hate that feeling too.
When I Fall is told from Griffin’s first person point of view (as opposed to the first book from the more dynamic narrator of Helios) and picks up a short time after Helios has returned to their people as King. Now Griffin and Helios try to maneuver the tricky political waters while their personal relationship suffers. At the same time their people are struggling to overcome the vicious attack they suffered and fear new attacks in their vulnerable position.
I’d heard that some readers didn’t appreciate the first part of the book but soon got into the second half. Sadly I couldn’t really get into this book at all. I never ended up connecting with Griffin or Helios on any significant level and was left feeling both men are irrational and not well suited to each other. Griffin spends almost the entire story in his head lamenting his dead wife, the secrets Helios is keeping, his own insecurities, fears, and a thousand other mental masturbations. While I was more than willing to go with the story and understand Griffin’s fears and concerns, he never seems to get over himself or talk with Helios, instead the two have sex and ignore the problems.
This is where my biggest pet peeve about this story comes in. The two gradually move away from each other because both are keeping secrets and frankly don’t trust each other. There are numerous instances where Griffin or Helios discover the other is keeping a secret and pretty much flat out say they don’t trust the other person. In fact the big ending fight scene is all because Helios didn’t trust Griffin. So clearly these two men have some pretty big issues in their relationship. Yet none of it is resolved or worked out. Instead they just ignore it, like they do the entire book, and have more sex. I get that these two love each other desperately but they have no ability to communicate and Griffin’s deathbed revelations are absurd. These sudden insights don’t solve any problems at all, which leaves me wondering how these two are ever going to work out. In fact I actually think they won’t and that really ruins the book for me.
What did work for me is the excellent writing. The author has a real flair for prose so the book flies by with ease. The vivid world building is much better and more thorough in this offering, with many other species introduced and playing prominent roles. These characters may be background but they definitely added to the wealth of the scenery and world. I liked the intricate politics and how boring and difficult such things are as that feels like a real inclusion. Likewise the affects of such a brutal and abrupt attack should have long reaching issues and it’s nice to see the story tackle that straight on without much watering down.
While there are some definite good things about the story, ultimately this didn’t work anywhere near as well as the first book and in fact makes me wonder about this strong, dynamic, and hot love affair that steamed up the pages of Uncommon Whore. While there is a lot of sex in WIF, it doesn’t have the same intensity and edge because the characters themselves feel unhappy with no resolution in sight. I’ll be curious to read any additional books in this series as I like the series and author’s writing quite a bit but I do feel as if this sequel took the shine off the first book and didn’t deliver. I really hate that feeling too.
December 21, 2011
Doesn't everyone want to be royalty at one point or another? Power, money, the good life is what most people dream of when they think of royalty.
Helios Dayspring only knows the downside of royalty � responsibility, assassination and political strife. After his rescue from slavery, one would think he has it made. Instead, after a year, he is still trying to determine the traitors as well as recover the memories erased during his sexual slavery. Through all of this, Griffin Hawke is there to support and love him.
This second book in the series pulled me in just as much as the first one. Ms. McBride further builds upon the world she's created and I love it. I enjoy stories where rebel forces have to band together and start fresh in an undeveloped world. I love learning about the inner workings of a civilization. Some of the things we learn about Helios' people impressed me. It also surprised Griffin as he was also in the dark. The same threat they faced before now comes at them face on as Helios' people strive to be part of the galactic coalition.
WHEN I FALL moved at a fast pace for me. I enjoyed the sexual interludes between Helios and Griffin. They are hot and smexy. Something about two alpha males bringing each other off just turns me on lately. The way Ms. McBride writes it, I can see it clearly and it takes my breath away. None of the sex feels forced, which is a plus for me. Each time it actually feels quite loving and, from a voyeuristic point of view, touching.
Helios and Griffin have lost so much yet they still continue forward. Intermixed with the strengthened relationship and safety of their nation, we meet more characters. The Amwere were intriguing as were the other aliens who supported Helios. I'm interested and wish another book would follow this one, as I'm sure I'll devour it quickly. I recommend this book to m/m lovers who enjoy sci-fi/ fantasy twists.
October 14, 2011
A great sequel to the first book, An Uncommon Whore. Stories like this are not my usual fare but I love Helios and Griffin so much I had this book on insta-buy--and I was not disappointed. This time around it's told from Griffin's POV. He's got some issues...which he admits. Working through them is a big part of the story. Fine with me, I like character driven plots. The story also has lots of hot, hot, hot descriptions of Helios (I swear he is one of the sexiest men in the entire universe) and an equal number of sizzling hot descriptions of their intimate times. If I have only one complaint it's the fact we didn't get something that was alluded to in the opening pages :-( but that leaves the series open for book number 3. A few other dangling threads also lead me to believe a third book is in the works, something that makes me very happy.
Definitely recommended.
Definitely recommended.
November 26, 2014
I loved this one every bit as much as the first. I was so happy to spend more time with Helios and Grif and all the others. This one had a bit "on the homestead" feel -- all about what happens when you are trying to rebuild essentially a civilization. There are issues between the King and his Consort...of the type that could break the relationship or make it stronger or some combo thereof. This author consistently delivers excellent novels. You simply must read RIGHT AFTER you read this one if you haven't already read this (or man just re read this ....it's worth it I promise).
November 3, 2014
The fascinating political and personal developments that began in book one of this series (and I think it is essential you read that first since you will not understand what is going on in this sequel without it) continue in this second book. It is set about a year after King Helios and Captain Griffin return to their people’s new homeworld, Neo Domus. The royal council is being obstinate, the search for the traitor who told the alien invaders of their original planet where to find the royal family continues, and Helios and Griffin’s personal relationship is beginning to buckle under the pressure of too many secrets on both sides and not enough time to be together.
Helios is finding it hard to be king. He has great plans, one of them making sure their new planet is protected against a repeat invasion from space, and since he is both a priest and an ex-soldier, he is uniquely qualified to ensure his people’s future safety. But he does so at great personal cost. Keeping the temple’s secrets (or at least most of them) from his lover is tearing him apart, yet he has no choice. The author really brought out the conflict between Helios the man and Helios the king, and how Helios learns to deal with the problem of being both. He came close to the edge of what is bearable several times, and I was figuratively biting my nails the whole time. What a guy!
Griffin may not struggle with being king, but he is fighting his own battles. His professional position may be cemented, and his role as royal consort secure, yet his past still haunts him. Not telling Helios one of the most important personal details, one that Helios’s memory loss stops him from remembering, brings Griffin to his knees. The nightmares that plague him are crippling, and, of course, instead of opening up, he withdraws. Gah! When he finally understands what being a partner and lover really means, it is almost too late. “When I fall� is Griffin’s greatest fear, and it is also the true test of whether he and Helios can make it as a couple.
But there is even more to this book than the continuing story of Helios and Griffin’s love and their struggle for survival of the entire population of Neo Domus. A subplot that began to take shape at the end of book one is growing in importance, and the role of Helios’s cousin Markus, left behind on Warlan, is clearly more important than that of a traitor. Caius, one of the members of Helios’s guard, also clearly has some sort of secret to hide. And as for the safety of Neo Domus—I am afraid there are more threats around the corner on that front as well.
If you like political drama of the futuristic kind where whole species and their planets are at stake, if you want to know what Helios and Griffin are up to, and if you’re looking for a read that is suspenseful and dark, full of intrigue and treason, and will most likely grip you and not let go, then you should give this series a go. I think it is fantastic and can’t wait to read the third book!
NOTE: This book was provided by Loose Id for the purpose of a review on .
Helios is finding it hard to be king. He has great plans, one of them making sure their new planet is protected against a repeat invasion from space, and since he is both a priest and an ex-soldier, he is uniquely qualified to ensure his people’s future safety. But he does so at great personal cost. Keeping the temple’s secrets (or at least most of them) from his lover is tearing him apart, yet he has no choice. The author really brought out the conflict between Helios the man and Helios the king, and how Helios learns to deal with the problem of being both. He came close to the edge of what is bearable several times, and I was figuratively biting my nails the whole time. What a guy!
Griffin may not struggle with being king, but he is fighting his own battles. His professional position may be cemented, and his role as royal consort secure, yet his past still haunts him. Not telling Helios one of the most important personal details, one that Helios’s memory loss stops him from remembering, brings Griffin to his knees. The nightmares that plague him are crippling, and, of course, instead of opening up, he withdraws. Gah! When he finally understands what being a partner and lover really means, it is almost too late. “When I fall� is Griffin’s greatest fear, and it is also the true test of whether he and Helios can make it as a couple.
But there is even more to this book than the continuing story of Helios and Griffin’s love and their struggle for survival of the entire population of Neo Domus. A subplot that began to take shape at the end of book one is growing in importance, and the role of Helios’s cousin Markus, left behind on Warlan, is clearly more important than that of a traitor. Caius, one of the members of Helios’s guard, also clearly has some sort of secret to hide. And as for the safety of Neo Domus—I am afraid there are more threats around the corner on that front as well.
If you like political drama of the futuristic kind where whole species and their planets are at stake, if you want to know what Helios and Griffin are up to, and if you’re looking for a read that is suspenseful and dark, full of intrigue and treason, and will most likely grip you and not let go, then you should give this series a go. I think it is fantastic and can’t wait to read the third book!
NOTE: This book was provided by Loose Id for the purpose of a review on .
October 16, 2011
I love reading a good space opera. It makes me want to put my hair up in Princess Leia buns and break out my light saber. So needless to say, this was a very enjoyable read for me. This book takes place about a year after Helios was rescued from slavery and returned to his people. And I have to tell you that whether he's King Helios or slave Pasha, Lio is one hell of a sexy man! This time around the story is told from Griffin's point of view, and the poor guy is still really suffering over the pain of the past. The injuries sustained to his body, which are sadly mirrored on his little daughter's body too, are a constant reminder to what happened and of everything he lost. Add to that the fact that Lio is apparently keeping many secrets from him, and Griffin is unhappy and worried about the future of their relationship. He's also still afraid of Helios being attacked by the traitors within their own council as well as the return of their enemy, the Landaun. Since the first book was told from Helios' point of view, we know that Lio is in fact keeping things from Griffin, especially where his memories are concerned, so I think Griffin is justified in his feelings of distrust and betrayal, even if Lio is simply trying to protect him. But even though Griffin and Lio suffer through misunderstandings and hurt feelings, they still have such passion together. I loved reading about their hot little encounters. I thought it was great that for a change it was Helios, with all his beauty, who showed such jealousy when the sexy Somians were infatuated with his beloved Griffin. You go Griffin! I enjoyed getting to know the different ambassadors too. The battle at the end was very emotional and my heart went out to so many of them. I'm really looking forward to the next book which should deal a little more with Markus and Caius (someone needs to PM me with his secret). The reason I took 1 star off the rating for this book was because I thought too much time was spent dwelling on Griffin's dead wife Suzan. I know that she, Griffin and Helios were together a lot but I thought mentioning Suzan so frequently kind of detracted from what Griffin and Lio now had together, almost like they could never be complete or the same unless they had Suzan (or another woman) with them. I felt like Griffin and Helios were closer in their relationship at the end of the first book when Helios didn't have all his memories back yet, but simply knew he loved Griffin more than anything. The memory of Suzan floating around like the spirit of Obi Wan Kenobi made this seem more m/f/m (and I don't like girl cooties in my m/m), especially with the step back they took at the end of the book, which bothered me. But otherwise this was a great read for me.
January 11, 2012
The sequel to An Uncommon Whore, When I Fall continues the story of Helios and Griffin, following Helios's return to his people as King.
Aptly named by the author, the story follows these two men as they struggle to adjust to their new roles in life - Helios as King and Griffin as Consort, while both must balance their role as lover/soul-mate to the other. Their separation caused by Helios's slavery has created secrets between the two, as does their current roles, and the secrets start to wear away at their relationship. The story is narrated from Griffin's point of view, and at times I found myself wanting to slap him, in part due to his selfishness, and in part due to his lack of sight. Yet, given that we see events unfold through his eyes, I also found myself feeling compassion for him, despite these two flaws.
I found the pacing slightly uneven at times for my taste. Some parts I wished would move more quickly, while other parts seems slightly rushed. There is one particular scene I was uncomfortable with; one sex scene borders on dub-con to me, and I felt Helios's reaction to it (or rather lack) somewhat disconcerting, particularly given his background as a sex slave. (I guess one could argue that it was due to his background that made him react the way he did.) Others may view this scene differently, but either way, a warning probably wouldn't hurt.
Overall, though, I enjoyed the novel, and I felt rewarded by the growth in these two characters by the end. It is also apparent there is at least one more book to come, as one major task has yet to be fulfilled.
July 26, 2012
This is Griff's pov and I liked the different pov's between this story and . Interesting to see the same situation intrepreted a different way.
Griff and Helios continue to struggle with their relationship and the pressures that come from Helios being King and remaking their new homeland.
So that they're not overpowered by another alien civilization they work towards becoming members of an interstellar council that will assist with protection while they get back on their feet.
They're still suffering the ramifications of Helio's regaining his memories and the pain involved and finding the traitor who betrayed them.
There is still story to tell so I hope there's more to come.
Griff and Helios continue to struggle with their relationship and the pressures that come from Helios being King and remaking their new homeland.
So that they're not overpowered by another alien civilization they work towards becoming members of an interstellar council that will assist with protection while they get back on their feet.
They're still suffering the ramifications of Helio's regaining his memories and the pain involved and finding the traitor who betrayed them.
There is still story to tell so I hope there's more to come.
October 29, 2011
A fantastic second installment in the series. While the first book provided just enough world building to keep the story meaningful without detracting from the main plot, this installment brings to life a world rich in detail and texture, completely surrounding the reader in every emotion from sensual pleasure to crushing pain. The cast of thousands is surprisingly interesting and creatively woven into the story. The plight of Helios, Griffin and their people continues to evolve, solving one riddle while unveiling three more. What can I say? I am hooked! It helps that this story as plenty of angst and we all know what an angst whore I can be.
PS: I shall figure out how to coax Belinda into sending a pair of Somian twins to my house tonight. Mmmm...
PS: I shall figure out how to coax Belinda into sending a pair of Somian twins to my house tonight. Mmmm...
December 9, 2014
12/8/14
It's always weird when narration shifts in bk 2s. The MC you got to know in the previous one generally becomes this sort of Ice Queen, which is a weird trend, but I've observed it in other things, too. But still, why is that a thing?
A continuation of the first one, it definitely leaves you hanging. I'd recommend waiting until you have all three parts, or at least the first two. For me, once
It's always weird when narration shifts in bk 2s. The MC you got to know in the previous one generally becomes this sort of Ice Queen, which is a weird trend, but I've observed it in other things, too. But still, why is that a thing?
A continuation of the first one, it definitely leaves you hanging. I'd recommend waiting until you have all three parts, or at least the first two. For me, once
August 31, 2014
I picked this book up and put it down more times than I can count. After reading book 1 and loving it, it was difficult to jump into book 2 because of the huge glaring difference. We were now in Griffin's head, not Lio's.
So....after finally returning to the book months later I can now report that once starting over...I loved it. I forgot about Helios and just let myself hear the story through Griffin's view.
This book ended up being more action packed. Wrought with secrets, new characters, backstabbing and most of all the same love book 1 was built on.
So...my recommendation? Space out book 1 and 2.
Can't wait for book 3 in Oct 2014.
So....after finally returning to the book months later I can now report that once starting over...I loved it. I forgot about Helios and just let myself hear the story through Griffin's view.
This book ended up being more action packed. Wrought with secrets, new characters, backstabbing and most of all the same love book 1 was built on.
So...my recommendation? Space out book 1 and 2.
Can't wait for book 3 in Oct 2014.
February 13, 2012
Wow.... I loved this sequel especially since it was in Griffin's voice. I would have thought a sequel would be boring.... I mean except for the council being a little upset about the loss of power there wasn't anything left but to rebuild. I was wrong! There are politics intrigue, violence, near death, traitors, and unexpected allies.
I have a feeling there will be a third book involving Caius who it seems has many secrets of his own. My heart breaks for all those who were lost. This is a fantastic author and a fantastic series pick it up!
I have a feeling there will be a third book involving Caius who it seems has many secrets of his own. My heart breaks for all those who were lost. This is a fantastic author and a fantastic series pick it up!
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