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After Jesus Before Christianity: A Historical Exploration of the First Two Centuries of Jesus Movements

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From the creative minds of the scholarly group behind the groundbreaking Jesus Seminar comes this provocative and eye-opening look at the roots of Christianity that offers a thoughtful reconsideration of the first two centuries of the Jesus movement, transforming our understanding of the religion and its early dissemination. Christianity has endured for more than two millennia and is practiced by billions worldwide today. Yet that longevity has created difficulties for scholars tracing the religion’s roots, distorting much of the historical investigation into the first two centuries of the Jesus movement. But what if Christianity died in the fourth or fifth centuries after it began? How would that change how historians see and understand its first two hundred years? Considering these questions, three Bible scholars from the Westar Institute summarize the work of the Christianity Seminar and its efforts to offer a new way of thinking about Christianity and its roots. Synthesizing the institute’s most recent scholarship—bringing together the many archaeological and textual discoveries over the last twenty years—they have Exciting and revolutionary, After Jesus Before Christianity provides fresh insights into the real history behind how the Jesus movement became Christianity. After Jesus Before Christianity includes more than a dozen black-and-white images throughout.

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First published November 2, 2021

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November 18, 2021
I can't claim any background in theology, but since my undergraduate years (I don't want to say how many decades ago that was), I've had a layperson's interest in the early history of what because the Christian church. In particular I've enjoyed explorations of noncanonical texts: books like Paegel's and Bart Ehrman's and . After Jesus, Before Christianity is another such title and makes a useful addition to the accessible literature on this topic.

After Jesus, Before Christianity emerged from an ongoing, multi-year study group that sought to identify, discuss, and research what we might call "pre-Christian Jesus texts." They open by observing that too many histories of the Christian church are retrospective, how-we-got-here tales ending in the Christianity(ies) of our time—rather like those charts of early homonids that make "modern man" seem foreordained in the fossil record. But in theology as in evolution, contingency is everything. There are any number of possible evolutionary "trees" (Darwin advocated for the image of a bush, growing in multiple directions, not a tree moving steadily upward). There are also any number of possible Christianities, including "Christianities" that remained "Judaism" and Christianities that are nothing like the various forms of the faith that exist today.

So the group behind After Jesus, Before Christianity began with the earliest texts it could find, moving forward through history, examining both commonalities and differences. (Surprise! There are many more differences than commonalities.) Using the body of noncanonical texts and the better known canonical ones, they've identified six recurring themes in the religious communities that sprung up in the two centuries after Jesus. None of these is shared by all groups, but they emerge often enough to give some sense of the various Jesus faiths that existed in the immediate aftermath of Jesus' life. These are�
� resistance to the Roman Empire
� challenging of gender norms
� the creation of families of choice, rather than biological families
� identification with Israel
� diverse organizational structures
� persisting oral traditions

This makes for fascinating, genuinely thought-provoking reading. I can't attest to the scholarly accuracy of each of the book's claims, but most of them seem reasonable enough and grounded in specific textual examples. On the other hand, one discussion moves from the Gospel of John to John's Revelation without noting that these are almost certainly not the same "John." So, read and enjoy, but, as Sue Monk Kidd suggests in the introduction, treat this material as interesting questions, not a definitive history.

I received a free electronic ARC of this title for review purposes; the opinions are my own.
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July 9, 2023
This re-examination of evidence on early Jesus movements turns up a diverse collection of mainly sociological datapoints. The authors show real diversity in communal practices, stories, cultures, beliefs, moral standards, gender roles, or styles of leadership. We see early Jesus followers living in fear, as their association with rebellious Judaism makes them liable to Roman penalties for disloyalty. At the same time we see pressure to appear respectable in the eyes of power-holders, with both opposition and conformity to hierarchical standards for human relations. We see some non-Jewish followers of Jesus starting to deny any association with Jesus’s Jewish religion. The whole diverse movement appears in flux. But all the authors can really trace is evolving practices, because the later-established scriptures, doctrines, church structures, etc., were either not yet formed, or not yet widely known.
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September 27, 2021
The premise here is, succinctly, that there's never been a unique and unbroken line from Jesus till modern Christianity as the latter's claim goes, because there were not one but several groups of followers of Jesus in the two centuries since his death until Rome made Christianity the official religion of the empire and created Christianity as we know it now, so that its existence wasn't the inevitable outcome as historians supposedly claim because it could've been just any group of the several and very diverse ones hitherto existing instead of the one that prevailed and came to be known as the Christian religion.

Put like that, it's an intriguing premise. But this is an incredibly frustrating book for a variety of reasons, the chief ones being methodological, the uneven quality of scholarship between contributors, and the subpar sourcing.

It starts with an opening chapter that's arguably the weakest and worst supported of all, in which the authors engage in essentially pointless semantics in an attempt to "prove" that the original Christians didn't call themselves Christian, a label they deem "problematic" and inaccurate, ascribing it instead to the Romans, who called these people so for bureaucratic reasons, and then argue that the original Christians called themselves a number of names that are, in reality, descriptions and allusions and not names or self-naming. Their "proof" is Pliny calling these people Christiani, which is true, but there's a huge leap from that to the term being an invention of Roman bureaucrats. What's their evidence that these groups didn't call themselves such and that Rome hoisted the term on them instead? That the term is supposedly "rare" because it appears only a handful of times in the New Testament, thus they ignore the evidence that they did call themselves such and go down an useless deconstruction of what "Christian" means literally, and crown the awfully unconvincing argument with inventing a label for these groups: "Jesus peoples." And then refer to them as groups, clubs, communities, to support their premise that they were essentially just the same as your granny's knitting club instead of religious groups.

Such a bad start isn't improved by the next chapters, twenty in total and divided in six parts that group the topics ranging from their naming to the nature of their communities, beliefs and practices, relations with Rome, relations between themselves, the apostles, the other gospels besides the traditional four, etc. Whilst some of these chapters are very interesting and thought-provoking, the ones on the Gnostics and Paul come to mind as the best in my personal opinion, the quality is unfortunately quite mixed. Some authors are balanced, thoughtful, and argue convincingly, taking care to not take huge leaps of logic, but most of them do not, and as a result, there's even contradictions from one chapter written by one author and the next written by another. As a whole, a book rife with contradictions and inaccuracies might be fine as a sounding board and to start debate, but can't be taken as a whole as a good source for the study of history.

The writing is very minimalist, and a negative byproduct of this is that the sources go unnamed in a number of instances. Might be that, since this is aimed at scholars it's taken as a given that they'd know more than a lay reader, but its lack of proper sourcing is still troubling. More so because, as one reads, one finds claims that will give the reader pause and make them want to know where it came from. I, for one, would like to know sources for the book's claims on Rome and its history, culture, mores, as there were eyebrow-raising lines that aren't credited. I also got the strong and distinct impression of authorial bias where Rome is concerned, for the authors make no secret of their favour towards Greece, which they call "democratic" whereas Rome is merely "somewhat democratic" (!), as well as the notion that sexual violence is at Rome's foundational core, and continuously remarking on their undeniably violent history as if it's somehow uniquely Roman and not a terrible part of civilisations before, during, and after them. I have deep reservations about the authors' statements because of astoundingly unsourced and out-of-context claims like this.

And my reservations aren't helped by, as I perceive it, political bias inserted into what should be a theological and historical work of serious scholarship. Given that the heart of this book is the premise that academics who study Christianity "look backwards" from nowadays back to Jesus instead of "looking forward" from after Jesus up to around Constantine, one would expect it to be the driving force behind careful research going into a book aiming to find evidence that this is, indeed, the right and proper method that renders the best results. But, once again, it doesn't meet the target. Several of the authors, because not all of them are of the same mindset, do "look backwards" and apply modern outlooks to peoples and events from two thousand years ago... whilst decrying other academics supposedly engaging in this same error. Cases in point: the author or authors using concepts such as gender fluidity and other concepts that belong more in identity politics ideology, and more surprisingly still, the author who couldn't resist aiming an uncalled-for and easy shot at Republicans. It shows when this book was written, because in many other books from the 2016-2020 period, I've found the same inability on the part of American authors to keep a cool head and their voting preferences out, and it makes them look so very unserious and biased from the outside, to foreign readers like me.

As I said, "After Jesus, Before Christianity" has value to spark debate and exchange ideas, but as the book on the history of early Christianity for readers that might be looking for and expecting to find, it's disappointingly all over the place and incomplete. In a nutshell, every single random fellow from the first two centuries after Jesus who as much as wrote one word about him is here, included amongst the "Jesus peoples," not excluding peoples that wouldn't be caught dead amongst his followers, and for whom Jesus wasn't the pillar of their group's teachings and activities, who contradict one another, and so on. That's not new information, even those that claim direct descent from Jesus and the label of "true Christian" for themselves are aware that these groups existed, that Christianity wasn't one monolithic body. In that specific regard, the book doesn't provide us with much, either.

I received an ARC through Netgalley in exchange for an honest review.
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April 6, 2025
This book is brought to us by the Westar Institute, the same organization that brought us the famous in the 1980s and 1990s. In 2013 they decided to launch another seminar—the Christianity Seminar—whose goal is “to study what came after Jesus.� The research work upon which this book is based was carried out by twenty-two biblical scholars who during the study period published various papers and books that reported on that era. This book is a composite of the subsequent ten years of research focusing on the missing two hundred years between Jesus and Christianity (i.e. before the establishment of “orthodoxy.�). “That period had lots of new—not Christian—innovative peoples, groups, and movements inspired by Jesus but going in many different directions.�

The following are my own observations of items I found interesting and somewhat new to me. Following my comments I have copied from the book the summaries of six new findings in the scholarship of Christian history.

They Didn't Call Themselves "Christian."
These peoples had no single name for themselves but a variety of names, and sometimes no name. The use of the term Christian was very rare.
Christianos is a word that Latin speaking Roman officials used, but it wasn't used as much in Greek speaking communities. It is a transliteration of the Greek word Cristianos (Christos is Greek translation of the Hebrew word Messiah meaning anointed with oil. The suffix ianos means "belongs to the party of.") The word Christian is used two times in the New Testament and each time it is used by outsiders, not members of the group referring to themselves. So what did they call themselves?
First and second century groups employed a range of names for themselves. Since these groups were very diverse their names were also different. They did not all call themselves "those belonging to the party of the anointed." It also is likely that many of these group names have been lost or never written down.
The book discusses a variety of group names, and then concludes with the following.
Although there must have been at least several hundred different names for Jesus peoples during the first 200 years of the Common Era, our research over the past two years of the seminar has identified only 24 in actual documents.
Communal Feasting and Bathing
The spirit of community was fostered by communal meals and bathing.
The one thing that unified all the groups of this movement was that they regularly dined with each other. ... Meaning and benefit emerge in meals when those of different classes, ethnicities, and social standing eat together. However, this attractive and compelling practice of diversity by groups of the anointed had some problematic examples as well. ... Both bathing and communal eating practices of Jesus groups during the first two centuries of the Common Era were important community activities. The bathing practices in particular had a strong effect across broad swaths of these communities.
As people strove against imperial pressure both of these practices healed and energized otherwise broken people and relationships providing them with a sense of belonging to a safe community.
There Was No New Testament.
Today it's hard to imagine Christianity existing in any sort of form without a written New Testament, but we forget how few people could read then.
No one in the second century would have proposed a collection of writings of 20 or 30 documents to act like a New Testament. There was little interest in a written religious authority in the second century. No one proposed it, and no one assembled something like a New Testament.
At the end of the second century the writing of referenced what we now recognize as the four gospels, but he is only mentioning them as existing in a variety of forms. This book's chapter on this subject concludes with the following statement.
These first 200 years of the Common Era are not the territory of something to be called the New Testament. There's little organization or dogma as people and groups work on defining their identities in unsteady but creative times. The writings, the people, and the identities are fresh, free, and incomplete.
Apostle Paul Was Not Widely Known.
It's also difficult to imagine Christianity without Paul being the leading spokesman, but this book says he was not widely known until mid-second century when orthodoxy/heresy conflict was beginning.
... a long silence follows his life when Paul was all but forgotten except in a handful of communities that remembered him as their founder. Nearly a hundred years after his death in the mid-second century he began to be name-checked by an aggressive group of partisans who had rediscovered his legacy. But others reacted either with hostility or with relative indifference to this obscure character from the past.
Even the writer of Acts apparently didn't know about Paul's writing (and I happen to know that Acts' version of Paul's life differs from Paul's writing).
When we search these other second century writings for Paul's substantive or distinctive ideas, we typically do not find them. Even those who knew of Paul and mentioned him may not have known his writings. Acts purports to tell Paul's story, but notoriously, never once mentions him writing letters.
This book examines the numerous references, both positive and negative, about Paul and concludes with these comments.
A century after his death. Paul held an ambiguous or even ambivalent status. The impression is not of an ancient and well-established authority stretching back to his own time, but rather of a recent introduction that various leaders feel compelled to stage manage and resolve. The flurry of literary activity, all dated approximately to the mid-second century bears witness to a significant adjustment of traditions to make room for Paul.
Emphasis Was On Practice, Not Belief.
Theological teaching was not a major emphasis of early communities.
Throughout the first and second centuries we see not only a great deal of diversity but also fluidity and experimentation in all aspects of the life of the communities of the Jesus movements. Members of early Jesus communities grew up within Greater Israel and identified with Israel's tradition. Israel had long dealt with its diversity by orthopraxy, not orthodoxy, that is by correct practice and not correct teaching. The Jesus groups initially followed in this tradition, but competition between teachers for new teachings created new schools and began to shift the balance more toward teachings than practice.
The book goes on to indicated that the early communities were not overly concerned with correct teaching.
The real situation is fluid exhibiting a great deal of experimentation. We do not have heresy and orthodoxy in competition but a whole series of schools and teachers engaged and interacting in conversation debate, and experimentation.
Gnosticism Was Not The Bogeyman.
This book makes the case that what today we call Gnosticism was simply part of the mix of ideas, and we should not consider it to be a primary opponent of orthodoxy.
The movement of Gnosticism to the scholarly side removes a confusing category from our ongoing work of rethinking the history of early Jesus schools and associations. We are moving from an idea that Gnosticism was a real force, the primary heresy that threatened the pure trajectory of Christianity, to the actuality on the basis of evidence for the absence, the non-existence of Gnosticism. We must rethink the entire assumption that a unified, heretical Gnosticism played a primary role in how the first two centuries unfolded. Using Gnosticism as an analytical category seems to hide more than it reveals and if we really want to understand the writing called Gnostic we need to set aside that designation.
Summary Highlights Excerpted From Book
The first chapter of this book lists what they identify as “six surprising new discoveries of recent scholarship� regarding this era. The remaining chapters lay these insights out in greater detail. I've copied the book's summary of those six discoveries below:
1. They Resisted the Roman Empire
A wide set of what we call Jesus clubs, movements for the Savior, communities of the Anointed, and schools of the Lord successfully resisted the Roman Empire. These peoples' resistance against Rome often kept violence at bay and gave their people courage and an experience of safety. A key dimension of their resistance to empire was invoking God's compassionate and strange empire, or kingdom, as later translators have it, in contrast to Rome's cruel and dominating one. These various groups made fun of Roman military power and mocked Rome's claim of divine power, even though they themselves had almost no power. The Empire of God challenged the Empire of Rome. Caesar Augustus as Lord conflicted with Jesus Anointed as Lord.

2. They Practiced Gender Bending
A wide range of Jesus peoples practiced gender bending-that is, gender roles were fluid and flexible. One of their primary identities was that they were neither male nor female, but all were "one" through different lived, experienced realities of gender pluralism. Women, and a significant number of men, rejected both male dominance and female passivity. A wide swath of Jesus groups rejected marriage and traditional families, with the envoy Paul often leading the way. Although some Anointed groups and individuals supported male dominance and demanded female obedience to men, many men shifted toward acting more vulnerable and less domineering. Women cut their hair and dressed like men. These gendered activities and actions brokered new possibilities for identity among various Jesus peoples, well beyond the regular masculine/feminine dichotomies of the first two centuries.

3. They Lived in Chosen Families
With traditional families increasingly broken and dispersed, a variety of Jesus groups started living in experimental family groups. These new family groups were voluntary; that is, they lived together increasingly outside of blood or married relationships. Whereas previously the primary relations for living arrangements were extended families of multiple generations with cousins, aunts, and uncles in the mix, Jesus people associated daily with each other according to mutual support and affection. More and more "supper clubs" became crucial and core associations of daily life. Economic sharing provided ways that members of these groups bonded. In some cases, larger housing arrangements came into play for the groups through a donor exhibiting compassion. Although most of these new kinds of families were small, occasionally a wealthy person provided larger space for bigger groups.

4. They Claimed Belonging to Israel
The largest and most common identity of Jesus groups was their allegiance to Israel, regardless of whether the groups or members came from Israel-based bloodlines. This bond applied whether they lived in geographical Israel or around the Mediterranean basin. Small and large groups understood themselves to be following the God of Israel, read Israel-based holy writings, prayed and meditated according to the various Israel-based forms, bathed ritually according to Israel's traditions, and—perhaps most of all—gave allegiance to their Israel-born teacher and leader, Jesus. Since Jesus belonged to Israel by blood and practice, the larger Jesus movements assumed and explicitly practiced Israel's ways. But after the Bar Kokhba War (132-136 CE), the second major revolt against the Roman
Empire of the people inhabiting the territory known as Roman Palestine, this allegiance was increasingly challenged.

5. They Had Diverse Organizational Structures
As was the case with larger Israel itself, the many different groups, schools, clubs, and Anointed communities had a variety of practices, beliefs, and organizational patterns. These peoples
had no central leadership and so had neither interest in telling nor the ability to tell the myriad groups how to practice or what to believe. The models for such organization were local and
occasionally regional, and so Jesus groups generally followed the diverse club organizational rules or the varieties of synagogue practices around the Mediterranean. The idea of Christian synods and ecumenical councils lay in the distant future. As occurred both in local clubs and in synagogue patterns, it was normal for different groups to dispute with one another about practices and beliefs.

6. They Had Persisting Oral Traditions
Writing did not dominate the life of the early communities of the Anointed to the same degree as surviving documents have dominated how we have imagined their life. There was nothing like the New Testament in the first two centuries CE. Throughout those centuries, Jesus peoples celebrating, arguing, and debating combined many forms of speaking and writing. Reading—as in all Mediterranean cultures� was done together publicly, especially when the few people who could read would read to a whole group. But often there was no reading. There was significant writing among the different groups, but this writing was part of a boisterous, complicated community dialogue, group reading, ritual practice, and—most of all—intense discussion. Much material overlapped Israel's developing readings of Torah, the Prophets, and Wisdom literature, the writings increasingly being set apart, designated as particularly meaningful for the life and identity of these peoples. Other writings were letters between communities, partially developed stories, and songs from within communities. Important writing was also done through a few words etched in stone and referenced as rules or statutes for Jesus clubs and associations.
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March 23, 2022
A hugely interesting exploration of what followers of Jesus were up to in the first two centuries following his death and resurrection. As Sue Monk Kidd points out in the introduction, we have to try to love the questions because we are never going to have all the answers. However, it is possible to know quite a lot and some of that does not fit neatly with what many Christians and non-Christians have been led to believe all their lives. For example, Christianity has not evolved from some cohesive, like-minded, same practicing group of people who knew or knew of this Jesus the Anointed. Diversity in thought, word and deed was the way from the beginning. Also, politics always played a major role in religion. And gender and family roles were being examined and altered by those who belonged to the various Jesus groups. This book is filled with much more to ponder and digest. I think it would make great reading for a church-based book club or Bible study group.
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December 27, 2021
I was presented a much more orderly and measured history of Christianity in my seminary years. This book, by a number of scholars, presents a much different process. They present a carefully and powerfully reasoned argument that what we know as Christianity was, and is, a messy and multi-faceted reality. I encourage you to read it carefully and slowly. It is worth it.
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February 22, 2025
I have enough familiarity with Westar/Jesus Seminar etc. that I wasn’t holding my breath over this book, BUT?

It’s as bad as Bart Ehrman’s recent stuff. No, ultimately it’s worse. And, much of the second half of it is basically a channeling of Karen L. King, without disclosing her own willfulness in setting herself up as a mark for a forgery.

Add in tendentious theological, exegetical and hermeneutic claims, the lack of an index and more, and this is one-star dreck. (Contra one other one-star reviewer, the Jesus Seminar had started downhill a while back; this is just the worst in a trend.)

First, claiming that because Sophia is feminine in Greek this opens “new ways of looking at Jesus� is laughable. (Ditto for Hokmah being feminine in Hebrew, of course.) I immediately thought of Mark Twain saying that a maiden is sexless in German but a turnip is not.

Claims that Rome has a focus on making conquered nations feel like semi-barbarians by violence? The Republic had a long period of forbearance with Greece, and even elsewhere, worked to co-opt the leadership class, not crush them. Slaves “transported� to Rome? Sure, because that’s where the most rich people were. Rome did NOT have an Assyria-like policy of deliberately moving whole groups of people.

People moving for work? Sure. Happens today!

The “Roman soldiers� Jesus and John the Baptizer talked to? Syrian auxiliaries, actually.

Gets Markan version of “clean and unclean foods� parable wrong! Humor isn’t the point; equality of Gentiles is.

Gets the “betrayed� vs “arrested� of Paul on the Last Supper wrong, or just ignores the “arrested� to try to offer more cosmic meaning.

Pharisees weren’t “relatively new� at time of Josephus., not with a pedigree of more than 200 years.

Insinuates pre-69 Vespasian already had an eye for the throne. Really? NEVER heard that before. Also claims Vespasian was a “plebian.� WRONG! He was a knight, the equestrian class.

Also a lie re Vespasian, and Titus? The claims that Romans never destroyed temples of other religions. It wasn't "temples," but in 54 CE Suetonius Paulinus (not the historian) is reported as destroying many Druid sacred sites in Britain, on Anglesey, as part of a brutal suppression. Druid groves were destroyed elsewhere.

Weirder yet is the talk about some Christian subgroups, like claiming that Hebrews 13:9-16 is about a subgroup that called itself “the altar.� No, really.

Claiming I Peter 1:1 and James 1:1 is about Christians who were “aliens,� rather than, as is the common interpretation, that it refers to the Jewish diaspora. But, if you’re going to date I Peter at 150CE, you’ll make such statements! (Personally, I can see I Peter as being as late as 125, and the persecution it references being what Pliny the Younger discusses with Trajan. It’s possible it refers to earlier bits of persecution under Domitian.)

Of course, if you’d like to date 1 Peter as late as 150 to put it later than Gnostic writings, you’ll do that!

That said, there are somewhat refreshing ideas, such as calling groups of Christians in different cities “clubs,� like dyers or weavers. Or like followers of pagan gods. That said, it seems to go too far to even take the Pauline passage about “one God and Father of us all� as “the father of the club.� And, that was the only halfway good thing here.

Translating “Christians� as “followers of the Anointed� when they note that Roman religious and political tradition didn’t have anointing, although Greek did. (Herms in the ancient Greek world, for example, were anointed.) Then claiming that Christiani/-oi as used in Latin (or imperial Greek?) was an official imperial term?

Yes, “baptizo� can mean to wash or to bathe. Qumran shows this. BUT, these were still ceremonial washings, even if we don’t use the word “baptize� as a transliteration. (Interestingly, Christian “baptisms� are compared to those of Isis etc., but Qumran isn’t referenced.)

“Gnostic� may not be exactly right, but a Nag Hammadi work such as Testimony of Truth shows that there were differences between so-called Gnostiiism and early pre-orthodox Christianity. Note how it refers to the Lord threatening Adam and Eve with death for seeking gnosis. Strawmans Gnostic vs proto-orthodox division without noting schools within Gnosticism and how most scholars talk about these schools, or “heresies!�

Also cites Karen King without noting the big kerfuffle over Gospel of Jesus� Wife, namely, her being a sucker for a forgery. And, talking about “Secret Revelation of John� rather than normal academic title “Apocryphon of John.�

Then, near the end, getting into what we’ll call traditional biblical scholarship, the authors accept the traditional authorship of I Clement and Ignatius, even though good traditional scholarship of the last 50 years rejects it more and more.

And, OTHER problems. I’ve NEVER seen Hegesippus spelled with a double-s before.

And, in discussing early martyrdom, the authors never wrestle with Candida Moss. (That’s probably because it would undercut their take on traditional Xianity not being in opposition to Gnosticism.)

Dates the Pastorals post-Marcion, also on tendentious grounds. (Surprised it didn't channel the Dutch Radical School and claim Marcion wrote the Pauline corpus.)

Finally, there’s no index to this book. That normally costs a star by itself and sealed the one-star rating.
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December 17, 2021
Reflections of the first two hundred years of Christianism by Jesus Seminar

During the first two centuries following the death of Jesus, Christianism and the New Testament did not exist as we know today. In fact, the Christian movement began from disciples of Jesus who tried to make sense of what they had experienced with him and what will happen to his ministry. There were splinter groups who followed other spiritual leaders like John the Baptist. There was much more flexibility and diversity within Jesus’s movement before it became a religious doctrine. The gnostic Christians had varied and diverse opinions about parables, crucifixion, and resurrection. Some of the earliest followers of Jesus were apocalyptic Jews. According to the Book of Acts, there were two groups; those who observed laws of Torah, and others welcomed gentiles without imposing any restrictions of Jewish laws.

The authors of this book are the new breed of scholars of well-known Jesus Seminar and Westar Institute which was founded in 1985 by the late Biblical scholar Robert W. Funk and other leading academics of his time. In this book, this young breed of authors tries to continue the great tradition of unbiased scholarship in the historical evaluation of canonized gospels, gnostic gospels, Acts and Pauline Epistles. One of the questions addressed by the authors is the understandings of sexuality, family values, gender & gender fluidity. The authors observe that there was a resurgence of morality and new world order after Jesus Christ. Histories, traditions, and legends are discussed and debated in ways that I have not read in apocrypha or other history books of ancient Israel. They claim that followers of Jesus resisted the Roman Empire in defiance by practicing gender fluidity and flexibility; and lived with chosen non-traditional families. There were diverse races, beliefs and they believed that dying for a specific cause was a noble idea. The authors cite First Corinthians for the ambiguities about gender within early Jesus associations, and Gospel of Matthew is interpreted as an experiment with family.

The earlier books by the Jesus Seminar were scholarly, highly readable, and extensively annotated with historical facts. They embarked on a new translation and assessment of the gospels including Gospel of Thomas. In pursuit of the historical Jesus, they used their collective expertise to determine the authenticity of more than fifteen hundred sayings attributed to him. However, the narratives in this book contrast the work of earlier scholars, and one chapter does not connect well with the next. The authors have overworked themselves as new breed of “woke� academics to cancel the existing culture. As you read this book you realize that they strenuously argue that gender fluidity and non-traditional families were common in ancient Israel. This does not reflect well on Jesus Seminar that worked fearlessly to challenge the dominance of Christian church. This book invents things that didn’t exist. At this rate one would like to question, what next for Jesus Seminar? Jesus was a gay guy?
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January 27, 2022
I listened to this book as an audio book on my work commute. I found it fascinating. Christianity is my heritage but not my belief system anymore, however, since leaving the Christian faith I have often felt a need to reconcile it somehow. This book is an historical look at the first two centuries after the life of Jesus through examining many of the writings of the time. This book and the evidence and new questions and possibilities that arise from it has shifted entirely what was taught to me in my years of Bible and historical study. As it states in the conclusion, it is not deconstruction so much as radical reconstruction of what has been assumed and taught. I feel it allows for a much more inclusive, broad and multifaceted understanding of how the life of Jesus resonated with those he knew and those who came after.
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May 22, 2024
A solid survey and academic analysis of biblical, apocryphal, and other texts from the period of time after Jesus’s resurrection until Constantine’s rule when the Bible was canonized in the 300’s AD resulting in six common characteristics of early followers of Jesus:

1) They resisted the Roman Empire
2) They practiced gender bending (meaning women could be more prominent in leadership & men more docile)
3) They lived in chosen families
4) They claimed to belong to Israel
5) They had diverse organizational structures
6) They had persisting oral traditions

I particularly enjoyed the sections dedicated to #5 and hearing about the many names of the groups (about 24 documented out of likely hundreds), especially the ones we can read about in the NT such as Chloe’s Household, Order of Melchizedek, etc. I also liked learning about their communal meals where they came together in fellowship to discuss their faith, relieve stress through humor, and share in communion.
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2,068 reviews80 followers
Shelved as 'will-not-finish'
October 15, 2024
DNF

I'm not sure what exactly put me off here but I'm giving up. There is something about the tone, the lack of sources, the jumping from topic to topic without ever saying anything valuable, that simply isn't for me.
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8 reviews1 follower
March 14, 2024
Wish it had an Index for reference.
120 reviews3 followers
May 4, 2022
An insightful and provocative study on the centuries between the death of Jesus Christ and when Christianity, as we have come to know it, was first established. During this period there were groups of Jesus people who gathered together and shared thoughts on His teachings as well as social and political issues. These groups were numerous. And each evolved in their own ways. It’s remarkable to learn how characteristics of each group came to form traits of our modern day Christian cultures such as the notion of suffering for our faith. Included in this study were the books and stories not included in the Old and New Testament. To understand the whole picture it is imperative to hear it all - not just what was cherry picked to promote a certain perspective. Fascinating work!
Profile Image for Richard Pütz.
124 reviews2 followers
December 18, 2021
A book everyone who claims Christianity as their religion needs to read. All too often we do not realize that Christianity, as we know it today, is an evolution from the 4th and 5th centuries the beginning of the middle ages, and into the Renaissance. This book gives us a glimpse of what life was like for the early followers of Jesus. The cause/effect of oral tradition in their practices. What it meant to be a follower of Jesus living in an empire that was hostile. Kudos to the authors and the team behind the authors for the work in putting this book together.
Profile Image for Philip Garside.
213 reviews2 followers
November 24, 2021
Thought provoking. Plausible arguments that groups of Jesus followers in the first 200 years were more diverse and far less cohesive than I previously assumed.
Profile Image for Wing.
350 reviews17 followers
December 19, 2023
This book makes a valuable contribution by presenting one perspective on the diverse characteristics of early followers of Jesus. However, it doesn't offer anything entirely new. The radical nature of Jesus� teachings is quite evident. ‘The good news of Jesus and friends inspired people to resist Roman power and violence, creating new concepts of what should be considered “good news”� (p.54/55). ‘The tradition of a noble death in defiance of tyranny has a long tradition within the various cultures of the Mediterranean world � This same tradition will be employed by later followers of Jesus in the second century as they confront yet more Roman imperial tyranny.� (p.96). The book also provides evidence of gender role fluidity in these early communities, which is yet another way of dismantling social dominance. Meanwhile, the task of ‘redefining group belonging amidst the destruction of conventional ways of thinking about one’s identity� (p.140) became paramount. Crucially, ‘these associations consistently displaced the ultimate patriarch, the Emperor-God, with the God of the Judeans� (p.159). They were also not unique. Affiliations of other religions existed as well and ‘were meant to be a refuge, a safe haven in precarious circumstance� (p.176).

I do find the underlying skepticism toward the canonical gospels frustrating. Questioning their historical accuracy is acceptable, but insinuating that they are entirely ahistorical reveals inherent biases. Additionally, overemphasizing non-canonical and later sources presents its own set of problems.

Reconstructing entirely and in fine detail what occurred two thousand years ago, which is poorly documented, is impossible. For example, the exact evolution of the Eucharist and baptism remains unresolved, though tantalizing and suggestive hints exist. This book offers ample ideas to ignite readers' imagination and bring them closer to the mindsets of Jesus' original followers. Orthodoxy developed late; heterogeneity prevailed as the norm; heresy was an anachronism. The Bar Kokhba War marked a significant turning point, as 'non-Judean followers of Jesus found themselves separated and often alienated from their Judean associates by various forces' (p.242). This era witnessed an acceleration in evolution, experimentation, and syncretism, fostering resilience.

The Roman Empire is no more, but the memory of Jesus lives on, providing inspiration to the millions who stand against the violence and oppression that tyrants of all ages practise. This is the true legacy of the Jesus Movements.

Overall a good read. However, very often the style seems a bit pretentious and unnecessarily polemic. Referencing is comparatively scant. The lack of an index is also very odd. Three stars.
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Author1 book27 followers
May 4, 2022
This book is based on theological research but with the goal of making it accessible. Accessible to who, though, is a good question. It explained itself well but is obviously in dialog with a world I'm not familiar with, and so the importance of what the book focuses on was often lost on me. I was hoping for something biographical on early Jesus groups, but instead each chapter is analyzing a broader point, some more academic than others. Still, it held my curiosity the whole way through. The main argument is that in the first 200 years after Jesus' death there was no New Testament, no single group that held the mantle as Jesus-followers, no agreement on what Jesus meant. It was a diverse movement of many groups, mostly informal, and who were an anti-colonial movement against Rome at least as much as they were religious.

The book also focuses a lot on which books are included in the New Testament and which are considered apocryphal. The crux isn't that any are right or wrong, but that Jesus Movements were diverse and that inclusion as holy canon was the result of factional battles. Orthodoxy didn't yet exist, and the idea of heresy was only invented in the 3rd century to discredit other factions. Which speaking of, "gnostic" is a term created a millennia and used to lump together early christians and early christian writing that contradicts what was only later declared orthodoxy. There were no such thing as The Gnostics, only Christians who perhaps believed in the Book of Mary but perhaps not the Book of Peter.

Whew. Theology has got to have the most specialized academic language out there. It is so hard to follow because many of the words are meant to summarize extremely specific 500-year-old arguments, and they aren't used in any other context. Apocrypha? Ecumenical? Ecclesiastic? Eisegesis? Apologetics? I'd have to commit my whole life to understanding this stuff. I've got other commitments.
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410 reviews89 followers
January 31, 2023
لم أكمل قراءته. تصل لمرحلة ترا أن المؤلف لم يبحث عن الحقيقة التاريخية بقدر بحثه عن اسقاط واقعه على هذا التاريخ. الكتاب عبارة عن مجموعة من المواضيع تناقش فترة المئتي سنة بعد عيسى عليه السلام. أحب القراءة بهذه الفترة ولا أزعم أني خبير بها، لكن عندي من المعلومات البسيطة التي تجعلني أقول هذا الكتاب جيد أو سيء. هذا الكتاب سيء لماذا؟ لأن كل فصل كاتبه شخص مختلف ولأنهم مختلفين ترا أرى غريبة ومتناقضة من فصل لآخر. ترى آراء غريبة خصوصا بالفصول التي تتحدث عن الجنس والعلاقة بين الجنسين، إذا قرأت هذه الفصول لا تعرف هل المؤلف يتكلم عن عصر المسيح أو عصرنا. اختبار لعلاقات زوجية وعائلية جديدة وسيولة جنسية(gender fluidity) كل هذا بلا أي أدلة قوية ولكن مجموعة من الأحداث التي لا تجزم بصحتها حتى تبني عليها أراء غريبة.
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584 reviews29 followers
April 25, 2022
This book comes out of the same organization that gives us the Jesus Seminar (Westar Christianity Seminar) where scholars attempted to identify the Real Jesus within the Gospels with mixed reviews (frequently drawing criticism from the more fundamental wing of Christianity). This book follows that process with the authors/contributors stating at the very beginning that “One of the core contributions of this book is its rejection of the master narrative.� So buckle up � controversy awaits us.

What we find over twenty chapters is how [these] scholars put together current research and understanding of the first two centuries after the crucification to build a narrative that an incredibly diverse movement that challenges orthodoxy in 6 areas:

1. They resisted the Roman Empire by invoking the compassion and mercy of God, while contrasting God’s perfect kingdom with the cruelty and domination of Rome despite having relatively little power themselves (Not sure how this challenges the prevailing theories, but there you have it)
2. They were extremely egalitarian with gender roles with women taking a more active leadership role in many of the groups (some even cutting their hair and dressing like men).
3. They lived in “spiritual� families or communities centered around their beliefs and practices, often disregarding blood family ties.
4. They were aligned with Israel in nearly everything that they did, regardless of where they were; frequently picking out the traditions of the local jewish communities and adding to them
5. They had a variety of organization structures, with little to no central control � which translates to a very diverse set of beliefs, many of which would become heretical and lose out to the coming orthodoxy (This is the best part)
6. Their tradition were mostly transmitted orally; however, they slowing developed what became canon along side the same process where the Jewish canon was created. (Again � not sure how surprising this really is).

To support these “discovers�, the book opens with a discussion on where we get the word ‘Christian� and what it actually means. While this was interesting, I am not sure it deserved all of the ink it received. After that, it talked about the power and violence of the Roman Empire � again � I don’t see many folks arguing against this, so the big reveal here seems to be that the relatively powerless underclass that made up the bulk of the communities was very passive-aggressive in their resistance to Roman power. You will find some controversy in the proposed development of the communal meals that would become the Christian communion as it is then also contrasted with common Roman practice with respect to libations for the Emperor.

It was not until Part II that I found more interesting and potentially surprising information as the book lays out the various characteristics of the Christian Communities (aka Clubs). There are some terms used that you need to pay very close attention to as they are using them for a specific meaning that is not at all common today, so the potential for misunderstanding is high. Here we see the Jesus communities experiment with gender roles, national allegiance and family organizations, with the later including a brief exploration of the traditional family/households and how radically different these new "communities" were. Part III moves into early heresies and how they were ultimately suppressed ... starting with [The Myth of] Gnosticism and its incorrect use to categorize and dismiss a significant number of early Christian writings [such as nearly the entire corpus of the Nag Hammadi documents) ... there by giving a false impression of early uniformity [or orthodox] that did not actually exist. Next we re-examine Paul ... who was not so influence during his life time as he would become during the establishment of orthodox belief.

Over all I think this brings important scholarship into the understanding of how we got here and I would recommend reading it with an open mind. Be prepared to be challenged; however, it is important to remember that this is just one view within a wide field and it may not be the end all to how we understand our story � even if you don’t buy into what is being presented here, it should make you think �



I was given this free advance reader copy (ARC) ebook at my request and have voluntarily left this review.

#AfterJesusBeforeChristianity #NetGalley.
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478 reviews4 followers
July 15, 2024
While I found portions of the book interesting, it was not a strong volume with a lot of facts or positions that were more than loosely supported. It was part of a prolonged use in a study group, and because we have a lot of experience together, we built good discussions upon it. However, there simple wasn't enough there to make it a good worth spending a lot of time on.
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1,681 reviews87 followers
June 22, 2022
“History tends to preserve only the voices it wants to hear.�

—ĔĔĔĔĔĔĔ�

I'm always interested in learning more about history and have always been obsessed with Roman history and I am a fairly well read Catholic, so I had high hopes for this new angle on both topics. I'm not sure that this one scratched the itch I had though,much of the Roman history was a re-run for me but if you don't know that part, you will learn alot. I did find it quite interesting that there was less of an organized movement than I had envisioned with the apostles and early preachers following Jesus's death. The information the authors provide makes perfect sense though, in a society where the average person would not be literate, the need for written structure for Jesus's teachings is logical. While our New Testament writers eventually eek out their stories and Paul is writing his letters, the authors present early "Christianity" as a fairly piecemeal movement with many small insular groups perpetuating the words of Jesus rather than large groups coming together and moving in the same direction. I guess it's even more remarkable that Christianity grew and coalesced and became something more enduring.

A bit surprising for me, although it's certainly seeing ancient history through a modern lens, was the discussions of gender roles and how Jesus did not support the patriarchal, society established rules. I feel like I hear the argument and agree with it but could totally see how "the Church" would refute a lot of this. I was also surprised about how Paul was viewed in his time and how there was a concerted PR "fixer" type clean up on his role and teachings.
17 reviews
February 20, 2022
I was disappointed in this book. It seemed vague and repetitive. Perhaps vague is all an historian can be when seeking/providing information about “Jesus people� in the time between Jesus’s crucifixion and Constantine. If that’s the case, then saying the substance of this book once is sufficient. It’s not that I didn’t find the content of the book interesting, but rather that I found the commentary redundant.

I also thought there were times when the authors tied themselves in knots to make Paul politically correct.

I was hoping to find out more about Peter and the other disciples and the Marys. I may have come to the book with expectations that the authors did not intend to fulfill and perhaps that cannot be fulfilled.

I do want to make clear that I did learn from this book, and it did cause me to think of early Jesus groups as not monolithic and as more than zealots thrown to lions. No Cecil B de Mille here. As a social study of how people react to subjugation, violence and the destruction of social norms, this book is very thought provoking and valuable.

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711 reviews10 followers
November 12, 2023
I have mixed feelings. The premise was really interesting, but the tone turned me off. It was a bit too caught up in its own academic authority. I could not get into the results of the “experiment� as much as I wanted because the method and self-congratulating were so blatant. It felt like a group of academics getting together and patting themselves on their backs because they finally cracked the code on the earliest era of Christianity. It read like a bunch of more or less interesting academic papers strung together. It could have used better sourcing too. The research about shared meal times, gender, and resistance to the Roman Empire was interesting though.
I’m not sure the many references to The Artist Formerly Known As Prince and the albatross and the quote by Lemony Snicket were necessary.
2,055 reviews17 followers
December 5, 2021
(Audiobook) This work looks at the history of Christianity with a good mix of Biblical references, the Apocrypha and contemporary history to describe how Christianity evolved to become the force that it is now. There is some interesting takes on some of the contradictions of the. We Testament, the role of women and men and a myriad of other issues with the faith. A worthy, thought-provoking read/listen. Maybe lean towards the hard copy, as you may want a Bible next to you when you read, even as this does a good job referencing the Bible in the text. The Bible would be a great reference/contrast to this work.
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Author2 books5 followers
January 4, 2022
It's sort of an anthropologist's analysis of the first two centuries of what later came to be called Christianity. They look at this spiritual movement from the outside, by understanding the hostile Roman world in which it grew and studying early documents and records including those in our Bible and many that were left out.

The first section about the Jesus movement as a nonviolent revolt against Roman values of wealth, mega-violence and slavery was very good. Not all the later arguments are as compelling, but if you want a fresh look at the origins of Christianit, I highly recommend it. (less)
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169 reviews8 followers
December 27, 2021
After Jesus Before Christianity reads like a multi-authored textbook, but that’s okay if early Christianity is interesting to you. It provides a decent survey of relevant topics from this time period through the lens of what the authors consider to be the most modern info. They did a great job immersing the reader into the time period, but some topics garnered more attention than needed and at times seemed to be linking these topics to current events.

Thanks to HarperOne and NetGalley for an ARC in exchange for an honest review.
9 reviews
January 5, 2022
I couldn’t help but ask myself periodically while reading this book if these authors are being serious? Their readings are amusing thought experiments, but they don’t hold up to any form of close scrutiny. They simply ignore all other scholarship. The essays reminded me of undergraduate paper. The quality of writing, research, arguments, and criticism are poor. I’m just baffled they take themselves seriously as scholars.
4 reviews
February 11, 2023
I find this a really interesting exploration of the groups that followed Jesus in first 200 years CE. So many interesting questions and ideas to consider. As the forward points out, embrace the questions and go into it with a curious mind. The writing is accessible to the non-acedemic reader while providing an extensive bibliography and resources for further investigation for those who want to dig deeper themselves.
Profile Image for Beth SHULAM.
570 reviews
December 29, 2021
Outlining the research of scholars participating in the Christianity Seminar, this book works its way backwards into the first and second centuries CE to discover what the first Jesus movements looked like. I appreciate the work that has been done, and their explanations are aimed at laypeople who may have interest in these scholars pursuits.
Profile Image for Steve.
25 reviews
May 2, 2022
A major premise of the book is that the idea that Christianity was a well formed, unified community with a clear corpus of beliefs that were universally accepted is unfounded. They talk instead about a multiplicity of kinds of groups/gatherings. These groups reflect a diverse set of ideas, practices, and beliefs. A provocative challenge in the approach of this book is that they ask the question: “what if Christianity died in the fourth or fifth centuries after it began? How would that change how historians see and understand its first two hundred years?� Implicit in these questions is the obvious burden for any modern adherent of religion: Is what I experience today as Christianity the same as what the first followers experienced and understood?

Of particular interest to me were the parts of the book that challenged word usage and formation. For instance, the suggestion that transliterated words are unhelpful in many instances. “Christ� is a transliteration of Christos (Χριστός) and is more appropriately translated “anointed one� as opposed to Christ. This feels self evident, even the most conservative of scholars would not object to this translating this word instead of transliterating it. But for some reason, many of our English translations transliterate this word, surely as a result of some developed tradition. But does this give us the right feel of the word? To broaden the conversation, the word “Christian� would generally be understood to describe religious followers of Jesus. But if we compare it to other words from the time, like “Herodian� (belonging to the party of Herod), the best understanding of the word “Christian� would be, “belonging to the party of Christ.� This translation opens the possibility that the nature of following Jesus in the early part of the development of Christianity may have had more political overtones than we have entertained previously.

Other words that are discussed are the terms “baptism� (which they assign the primary meaning of “bath�), “kingdom� which contextually may be better translated “empire,� and “Judean� which often is translated “Jew� or “Jewish.�

Other subjects I found intriguing:

- Early expressions of “Christianity� are many times reactions to the violence of the Roman empire
- The death of Jesus should be seen in light of the noble deaths of antiquity and that the death of Socrates is a template for these kinds of deaths
- Gnosticism has been misrepresented in our common descriptions and definitions
- Many of our texts fit into the category of Hidden or Secret Texts that use code to speak out against the powers that be. Demon possession was a common vehicle for these hidden messages.

I took Sue Monk Kidd’s advice in the preface to this book, and I found it rewarding:

“Whether your relationship to the Christian religion is deep, shallow, past, present, or nil, the way you read this book matters. If you do so while loving the questions, the book will plunge you into the freedom of unknowing.� I “tried to love the questions� that it raised. I was not disappointed, I have a lot more questions.

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