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The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey: Did you love or loathe the film? No half-measures for this poll - it's yea or nay!
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Dec 26, 2012 05:59PM

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I know what you mean. Galadriel and Saruman really didn't need to be in it, for one thing! I was able to let that go, however. Overall, I still had fun. And if it inspires a whole bunch of people to give the book a chance, that will be a very good thing.
I found the songs distracting and a little silly in the book, too. But Tolkien did put them in there, so it made sense that they sang in the film. IN that sense, the film is true to the original story, and it helps that Richard Armitage can actually carry a tune!



So do I! :)

This poll is deliberately polar - I want to see the raw reaction to the film! More moderate reactions or reasoned arguments can be expressed in the comments, either here or in the discussion topics.
Film being a visual medium, I personally liked the battle scenes - seeing the warriors Tolkien describes in action! Of course, the films can't compete with the books: as Dr Sheldon Cooper says, they run on the world's most powerful graphics chip - Imagination!
Film being a visual medium, I personally liked the battle scenes - seeing the warriors Tolkien describes in action! Of course, the films can't compete with the books: as Dr Sheldon Cooper says, they run on the world's most powerful graphics chip - Imagination!

Well, except my raw reaction was really in the middle. I don't actually have a raw reaction that is negative. But I'm measured by nature; I rarely think or feel in any extreme. Giving me only extremes I feel really skews the results (does my work background in market research show?). Most people I've talked to have raw reactions truly in the middle, especially if they are fans. On the visual side...here's my caveat: I'm low vision! My consciousness fundamentally shifted to my other senses when the car accident took most of my sight. Yes, I know, most people's cognition is 90% visual (did the research paper in university on sight and cognition)! For me, though, the visual appeal of this movie was best seen in the details in Rivendell and in Bag End. There was a richness there that I could appreciate.
Lastly, I think our difference in what appeals is, at least somehow, gender influenced. Women will naturally be more drawn to different details than men will be. This doesn't mean women don't enjoy action; we just look at it through a little different lens.
Although your reaction was in the middle, being offered only "good/bad" options made you choose, and you went for "bad", which I think is interesting. You could, of course, have chosen not to vote. I'm not saying that a middle-ground view is not valid, just not what I wanted to learn from this poll.
I apologise if it sounds like I'm conducting some kind of research on the Group! I'm not, it's just my particular curiosity :-)
I apologise if it sounds like I'm conducting some kind of research on the Group! I'm not, it's just my particular curiosity :-)

Not liking extremes, I avoid flattery and especially saying I love something when I don't. Now BRAVE -- I did genuinely love that.

I'm mostly interested to see how the material that was completely fabricated will be worked into the films. Toward that end what are peoples feelings on Turiel. I've discussed her character alot with friends, the discussion tends to surround her presence as a strong female lead in the films much like Eowyn is in LOTR. I've decided to reserve final judgement on the addition of her character till I see the movies but I guess I'm interested to hear what others think about Turiel being added to the story.
I can understand the need to amalgamate separate characters from a complexly plotted book into single characters in a necessarily streamlined film adaptation, or to switch actions from one character to another, as happened in LotR (Glorfindel/Arwen being the one that comes most readily to mind). I can also support fleshing out in the films characters only briefly sketched in the books (e.g., Radagast), but I see no reason other than commercialism to introduce new characters to the Profs work, so I'm not really keen on the idea of Tauriel. Not that that will spoil my enjoyment of the other films - I just think it unnecessary. Then again, I've never produced and marketed a mega-multi-million-£ movie franchise, so what do I know?

The Hobbit only had one female character in it - the doe the Company meets with in Mirkwood. I suppose that for the film trilogy, that boundary was crossed when they included Galadriel, removing any qualms there may have been about adding other female characters.






First...CONGRATULATIONS on your marriage!
Second...I agree with you completely about the opening and the extended battle scenes -- especially in 3D. I'll add that I am low vision, so the 3D actually hindered my ability to see and enjoy the movie. I gave the negative view in the poll just because battle scenes turned me off to the point where I cannot say I "loved" it.


I agree...it works better for animated films. the only other film I've seen 3D was The Polar Express. THAT was wonderful as a 3D film. But I think 3D for The Hobbit is a poor match. I'm sure I'll like the DVD better!

Thanks Laurel!I hope the second movie will win your vote :)

I find 3D really distracting and it gives me a headache. On the other hand, I had no alternative when the most recent Pirates of the Caribbean flick was out, and I didn't object so much to having Captain Jack Sparrow jump out at me!

I find 3D really distracting and it gives me a headache. On the other hand, I had no alternative when the most recent Pirates of the Caribbean flick was out, and I didn't o..."
To me, Thorin looked more fake in 3D than he would in 2D. I compare my impressions between "Fellowship" (which I just re-watched) and "unexpected" and honestly...living beings just work better in 2D. Now RIVENDELL is where the 3D worked nicely, where I actually did like the visual effect.

Tolkien's estate didn't agree, but as the Prof sold the film rights (I think, without double-checking) in the late 1960s they have no say. They are on record as hating everything Jackson has done with the Tolkien legacy.
As The Silmarillion was published posthumously, the estate still holds those rights, and which is why we're unlikely to see it adapted, as they insist it must be EXACTLY adapted to the screen as written in the book!
As The Silmarillion was published posthumously, the estate still holds those rights, and which is why we're unlikely to see it adapted, as they insist it must be EXACTLY adapted to the screen as written in the book!

For the Hobbit, examples of the cases in point:
1) The significance of the thrush carrying Biblo's information to Bard, which gives Bilbo an unknowing share in the dragon's death is removed from the story. How can you find so much time for battle scenes, but leave no time for this?
2) The quiet moment where Bilbo gather's his courage in the tunnel, which is - by the testimony of the book itself - Bilbo's high point as a hero, is given no time. If the author calls out a moment you might overlook, as central to the protagonist, it's darn well important. If you don't understand that moment, you don't understand the book.
Anyone that loved the story rather than saw the story as a means to an end, would film those scenes if they had to cut out half the work, leaving only the Riddle Game, Biblo's rescue of the dwarves from the spiders, Bilbo's peace offering of his share of the treasure, and the deathbed scene of Thorin. The whole episode with the elves and barrels could be cut for time if necessary without harming the story. But if you leave out those scenes, it's only because you hate the story.