Q&A with Josh Lanyon discussion
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Anne wrote: "Johanna wrote: "Heh heh. You two are funny (at least for now...). LOL."
Just you wait until you go there in sensible brown shoes and polyester pants, suffering those pesky pains in your lower back..."
Yeah, you young whippersnapper!
Just you wait until you go there in sensible brown shoes and polyester pants, suffering those pesky pains in your lower back..."
Yeah, you young whippersnapper!
Susinok wrote: "Josh wrote: "I think as you get older, you get more open-minded. Or at least until you then reverse yourself and get totally crotchety and close-minded. :-D .."
I'm open minded. But I'm also old a..."
:-D
I'm open minded. But I'm also old a..."
:-D
Bluesimplicity wrote: "Jumping in here...
I just finished listening to Fatal Shadows, and I absolutely adored it. As usual for me with audio books, it took a couple of chapters to get used to Chris' voice and his cadenc..."
Chris said he hopes to start uploading this weekend, so that's promising. I think it will be live early in June. ACX is taking a lot longer to get books listed -- averaging 20+ days now -- so I'm guessing early June.
Strange Fortune should be going live any minute as well. That was all wrapped up April 1st, so it should hit the sales channels before the end of the month.
I just finished listening to Fatal Shadows, and I absolutely adored it. As usual for me with audio books, it took a couple of chapters to get used to Chris' voice and his cadenc..."
Chris said he hopes to start uploading this weekend, so that's promising. I think it will be live early in June. ACX is taking a lot longer to get books listed -- averaging 20+ days now -- so I'm guessing early June.
Strange Fortune should be going live any minute as well. That was all wrapped up April 1st, so it should hit the sales channels before the end of the month.
Joe wrote: "I started listening to The Ghost Wore Yellow Socks tonight. I'm enjoying the narrator, because of the voices he's using. Great so far, though just started."
Hey, that reminds me. Max never got his interview back to me. :-(
Hey, that reminds me. Max never got his interview back to me. :-(
Fehu wrote: "Valerie wrote: "Joe wrote: "I started listening to The Ghost Wore Yellow Socks tonight. I'm enjoying the narrator, because of the voices he's using. Great so far, though just started."
I really ..."
That makes sense to me. If the voice isn't the voice you imagine -- doesn't fit with the voice you imagine -- I can see an audio book wouldn't work.
I really ..."
That makes sense to me. If the voice isn't the voice you imagine -- doesn't fit with the voice you imagine -- I can see an audio book wouldn't work.
Josh wrote: "Anne wrote: "Johanna wrote: "Heh heh. You two are funny (at least for now...). LOL."
Just you wait until you go there in sensible brown shoes and polyester pants, suffering those pesky pains in your lower back..."
"Yeah, you young whippersnapper!"
Ha! Now there is a word I find most amusing! Are you sure YOU can whippersnapper me? I think it might as well be the other way around... ;-)
Just you wait until you go there in sensible brown shoes and polyester pants, suffering those pesky pains in your lower back..."
"Yeah, you young whippersnapper!"
Ha! Now there is a word I find most amusing! Are you sure YOU can whippersnapper me? I think it might as well be the other way around... ;-)

Whoops. My paragraph below refers to CUTYS, not Yellow Socks. Got 'em confused.
I liked his voices for Yellow Sands. However, his delivery was full of strange pauses that totally distracted me most of the time. The dialogue was smooth most of the time but the exposition had odd breaks and hesitations in it.

Just you wait until you go there in sensible brown shoes and polyester pants, suffering those pesk..."
Well, at least I can whippersnapper both of you! ;)

LOL, this seems almost like a contest. I have absolutely no idea how old anyone is, but if you're looking for someone to whippersnapper I'm totally at your free disposal. :-D

LOL, this seems almost like a contest. I have absolutely no idea how old anyone is, but if you're looking for someone to whippersn..."
I'll keep that in mind! :)

LOL, this seems almost like a contest. I have absolutely no idea how old anyone is, but if you're looking for so..."
:-D

I suggested he run the slides by a friend of his getting her masters, she's probably more capable of understanding, though she does have a cat, I might warn her to not let the cat near.
Joe wrote: "I was just listening to my bf read from his powerpoint about statistics. He asked at the end if I understood what he just told me and I tried to be nice and said, well it didn't make sense, but in..."
Oh god. My eyes rolled up in my head at the very words "power point." I managed to fight my way through to the end of the sentence though. ;-)
Oh god. My eyes rolled up in my head at the very words "power point." I managed to fight my way through to the end of the sentence though. ;-)

It's ok, he's getting paid $1500 to make for a textbook. But, still... ack.

It's ok, he's getting paid $1500 to ma..."
Hmm... how did he do that? My husband's just written a textbook on statistics (in German, though) and if he's lucky he's getting 10 Euro in total out of it. That makes for an awesome pay per hour if you think of the hundreds of hours work that were poured into it :-D
Katharina wrote: "Joe wrote: "Josh wrote: "Oh god. My eyes rolled up in my head at the very words "power point." I managed to fight my way through to the end of the sentence though. ;-) "
It's ok, he's getting paid..."
That is just painful.
It's ok, he's getting paid..."
That is just painful.
Joe wrote: "Josh wrote: "Oh god. My eyes rolled up in my head at the very words "power point." I managed to fight my way through to the end of the sentence though. ;-) "
It's ok, he's getting paid $1500 to ma..."
If it's just the formatting and so forth, that's not bad at all!
It's ok, he's getting paid $1500 to ma..."
If it's just the formatting and so forth, that's not bad at all!

It's ok,..."
Yeah, well, you write it more for your CV, your reputation, and your publishing record than for the money. (Obviously, NOBODY would do it for that kind of money.) It's still pretty painful, though. Moreover, each contributing author (two in this case) gets a total of 7 free exemplars. And that's it. Seriously, these publishing houses are like vultures, it seems to me...
Unless you actually ARE a publisher, there is not that much money in the writing biz. I think that's one reason why piracy hurts so much, cuts so close to the bone -- especially when the rationale is it's hurting publishers not authors or authors are actually benefitted from piracy.
If the piracy ultimately leads to lots of sales, okay, maybe it's beneficial. But if the piracy leads to more piracy, more exchanging of information for free...then no. No matter how devoted that readership...actually...no. Being read is not in itself enough to live on. It's gratifying, ego-wise, but it's not a live-able wage.
Everyone needs a live-able wage. This is the foundation of a stable society.
If we all pay a fair price for the goods and services we need and want, everybody benefits.
But if someone is hogging up the resources, not paying their fair share -- be it publisher or pirate -- then we do not all benefit and we do not all thrive and the art (work) itself suffers.
If the piracy ultimately leads to lots of sales, okay, maybe it's beneficial. But if the piracy leads to more piracy, more exchanging of information for free...then no. No matter how devoted that readership...actually...no. Being read is not in itself enough to live on. It's gratifying, ego-wise, but it's not a live-able wage.
Everyone needs a live-able wage. This is the foundation of a stable society.
If we all pay a fair price for the goods and services we need and want, everybody benefits.
But if someone is hogging up the resources, not paying their fair share -- be it publisher or pirate -- then we do not all benefit and we do not all thrive and the art (work) itself suffers.

Ha. I just finished listening to Tigers & Devils. In addition to the American accent I have complained of before, there is some glitch in the recording process where a few words are repeated every so often. And the guy read like it was the first time he read the book (you know how you put the emphasis on the wrong words because you don't understand the sense of the sentence until the end). I am the least picky audiobook listener I know, and even I was having trouble forgetting the reading to enjoy the story.
Tigers & Devils isn't as good as I remembered either, but that is another subject.

You know, I quit my job over copyright violation once! I was working at a business school and we had some Ziff-Davis workbooks for word processing. The books were not that expensive, textbookwise. They were $12.50 each.
The owner of the place told me to COPY them and hand them out to the students and they were going to return the unopened boxes. I was so stunned that anyone had the unmitigated gall to ask me that. I turned in my resignation the following Monday (this happened Friday evening).
This business college is no longer in business, due to other shady practices. The only reason I didn't turn them in myself is that they are big in the OKC community (or were) and I could have ended up black listed (and I was 17 years younger and afraid).
Susinok wrote: "Josh wrote: "Unless you actually ARE a publisher, there is not that much money in the writing biz. I think that's one reason why piracy hurts so much, cuts so close to the bone -- especially when t..."
That's just crazy. But people are very good at finding rationalizations for doing what they want to do.
Never mind the turning them in, I'm impressed by your gumption in quitting. That took guts!
That's just crazy. But people are very good at finding rationalizations for doing what they want to do.
Never mind the turning them in, I'm impressed by your gumption in quitting. That took guts!
Charming wrote: "Susinok wrote: "However, his delivery was full of strange pauses that totally distracted me most of the time. The dialogue was smooth most of the time but the exposition had odd breaks and hesitati..."
That's why I make myself listen to every damn file. No matter how good the narrators, technical glitches can happen to anyone.
That's why I make myself listen to every damn file. No matter how good the narrators, technical glitches can happen to anyone.

It doesn't seem like an audio book would be time-consuming since the work is already written and it 'just' has to be read, but I'm realizing from what you've posted on the subject that it's not as easy as it sounds... especially if you want it done right.
Spent my entire day listening to The Piano Guys on CD. Same CD on repeat. Love their work and I can't wait for their second CD to come out next month. They're primarily on You Tube, with some wicked cool videos. If you like Star Wars, you should check out their Cello Wars version. They have a lot of good classic songs and some pop songs too.
Great background music for writing! And reading!
Great background music for writing! And reading!

I LOVED that narration, and yes, Perry is a doll. Poor baby.

I LOVED that narration, and yes, Perry is a doll. Poor baby."
I agree!

It doesn't seem like an audio book would be time-cons..."
I remember one of the authors narrating their books over on PodioBooks released an "outtakes" as a fun extra after the book was done. It showed how hard it is to read even a page of text smoothly without flubbing something somewhere. Or getting some kind of extraneous noise on the track just from moving about slightly. And it's amazing how soon the voice will crack reading long passages. A professional voice actor will manage it more easily of course, but still, there must be more hours of audio recorded than ends up in the file!

Interesting. I'm sure there would be a lot of curse words on mine if I tried to do something like this... :-D I never really thought about the concentration it must entail.

Oh whatever shall I do? Spending more money on more Lanyon... oh the misery.


Oh whatever shal..."
Just delete it and re-download (assuming you bought it through Audible - with iTunes I think you need to get them to organise it for you, but they will.) With Audible it's instant so you won't have to wait to continue the story!
Speaking of audio books, um....it turns out that neither I nor the narrator of Strange Fortune noticed that he hadn't officially clicked the "receive payment" button on the production page, so the book never went into the queue for sales channel.
Soooooo we're looking at another three weeks or so.
Sorry about that! Pilot -- both pilots! -- error.
Soooooo we're looking at another three weeks or so.
Sorry about that! Pilot -- both pilots! -- error.

I'll click that button for him!
Josh wrote: "Speaking of audio books, um....it turns out that neither I nor the narrator of Strange Fortune noticed that he hadn't officially clicked the "receive payment" button on the production page, so the ..."
Oops. ;-) Oh well, the book will come out just in time for summer. I'm really, really looking forward to this one. :-)
Oops. ;-) Oh well, the book will come out just in time for summer. I'm really, really looking forward to this one. :-)
Johanna wrote: "Josh wrote: "Speaking of audio books, um....it turns out that neither I nor the narrator of Strange Fortune noticed that he hadn't officially clicked the "receive payment" button on the production ..."
It's really such a well done book. But...yeah. I should have been paying closer attention.
It's really such a well done book. But...yeah. I should have been paying closer attention.


I'll be looking for it. I have a credit to use, so I will save it for this book. 8)
Congrats on getting another book out! YAY.

Whoops. My paragraph belo..."
I felt sort of the same about it, that it was not at its smoothest at times, but overall i thought his reading was great. It also helped somehow to know (from the interview) what his reading strategy was going to be, so it was less of a surprise because of that.

I did load up on Audio books from my library before I left. I listen to them while I drive.
The Murders in the Rue Morgue, The Maltese Falcon, and Come Unto These Yellow Sands
I vaguely remembered Rue Morgue and Descent into the Maelstrom. I had forgotten how modern Rue Morgue sounds. Like our investigative tv shows in the unplugged version. I think I was unimpressed when I was young, not understanding it's uniqueness.
I loved the language of The Maelstrom. I could hear my Grand father's intonation. He must have performed it for me at one time. He had a beautiful orators voice.
Falcon was/is wonderfully entertaining. The stylization is so fun and such a contrast to the crime/mob mentality. I really enjoyed it.
CITYS- LOVE IT! Of course this is the third time I've listened to it and we will be discussing it later.
Thanks so much, Everyone and especially Josh, for getting me into audio books!!

:-)

Yes, yes...impossibly delicious.;-D


I saved all my Audiobooks credits and got five Lanyon audiobooks (Darkling Thrush among those). I am so happy. I am now deep into Fatal Shadows. *sigh*
I was craving m/m deliciousness after all the dry reading for schools. :D It's nice to give my eyes a rest too.

:-)

oooh! enjoy! :-) Fatal Shadows is my most reread one so far, and i loved the audio; i'm refraining from listening to A Dangerous Thing until the next audio comes out, if i can, once in a while i suddenly miss them so :-)

Yes! You are going to LOVE them. Josh's writing is brilliant, of course. Josh did a great job of choosing narrators/actors. It's like discovering the books all over again. Enjoy. <3
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I just finished listening to A Dangerous Thing audio. I thought Chris Patton did a great job. It made me want to go back and re-read my favorite parts in the book.
I have not read Strange Fortune yet, maybe I will wait for the audio and enjoy it that way. :)