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My copy begins with an excerpt from John Donne's 'For whom the Bell Tolls'. I enjoy his work and looked up the entire quote. He later uses the phrase,'The Sun also Rises'. This is another Hemingway title. So then how was Hemingway connected to Donne?

I'd like to hear about this myself.

I don't know the answer to that. I always read that Hemingway got the title for The Sun Also Rises from the biblical passage. He invested a lot of time in coming up with titles. Interesting article about the various titles that Fitzgerald tried on for The Great Gatsby. Funny to contemplate if it had been called one of those instead.

Okay, so it's 'the sun when it rises'.
I can only find mention that Hemingway used the title of this sermon.

John Donne. Meditation 17. [No man is an island... For whom the ...

I also found it helpful to read Donne's meditation before the first chapter. He was a mystic poet, and "...it tolls for thee" refers to his understanding of the interconnectedness of humanity. In ch. 3 when Robert Jordan initiates a dialog with Anselmo: "have you killed?" Hemingway gives us insight into this character as one who reflects deeply on his conflict with war. I wonder if Hemingway chose that title to express his own realization that we are all casualties of war?

I agree, Tracy. Robert Jordan had a lot to live for; dreamed of seeing Madrid with Maria; returning home--to the west, as I recall--but it was his turn and lot in life to give his all for this cause. The Bell tolled for him. This war far away had become his war and his end.

What did you think of Pilar?

Hi Christine, I love Pilar. She is outspoken with her opinions, but quiet about her sensitivity. She knew from the beginning for whom the bell tolled, when she read Robert Jordan's palm.

I love her too. strong, honest, loyal. and yes, she tried to put robert and Maria together even though she knew fate was not good. she is one of my favorites.

I thought it was very cool that Hemingway named his boat after Pilar.....a strong woman indeed!

Agree!

I visited Hemmingway's home in Key West years ago, but didn't remember that was the name of his boat. Thanks for sharing that, Gary.

I visited Hemingway's home in Key West too , Tracy. The Pilar is not there, my friend....

It's in Cuba..... at his house there. ;-)

"Pilar" was a nickname for Hemingway's wife Pauline and also the name of the woman leader of the partisan band in his 1940 novel of the Spanish Civil War, For Whom the Bell Tolls.

Ah, that explains why I didn't remember the boat from Key West!