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Fishface wrote: "Just one?"

That I know of, I don't get there very often.

OK, I drive all over the county to go to my appointments for work, and yesterday, every single time I got in the car and turned on NPR they were playing the same story. It happened on the drive to work, the drive to lunch, the drive to the first appt, the drive from the first to the second appt, and the drive home. It almost goes without saying that it was a crime story: an interview with the linguistic profiler who helped catch the Unabomber. Either it was a super slow news day and they had nothing else to report, or the gang at WUOM just set it on "repeat" and slunk away to play hookey for the whole day...

Fishface wrote: "OK, I drive all over the county to go to my appointments for work, and yesterday, every single time I got in the car and turned on NPR they were playing the same story. It happened on the drive to work, the drive to lunch, the drive to the first appt, the drive from the first to the second appt, and the drive home. It almost goes without saying that it was a crime story: an interview with the linguistic profiler who helped catch the Unabomber. Either it was a super slow news day and they had nothing else to report, or the gang at WUOM just set it on "repeat" and slunk away to play hookey for the whole day... "

The answer is B! Oh this isn't trivia question? My bad.

So today there was a big dramatic announcement in team meeting that the sky was going to fall if someone didn't take this new case. I shrugged and took it. I had the room in my schedule. The only other topic of discussion was when and where to have the staff retreat, which we have originally tried to set for February of 2015 and have been postponing ever since.

So a couple of hours later I was dialing the new family's number to set up a first appointment with them, when an e-mail came through saying we definitely have a day chosen for the retreat: November third. And I looked at my computer screen where the new client's birthday is in the upper right corner: November 3rd.

This book is tripping me out. Dead of Night: The True Story of a Serial Killer features a career criminal who changed his name from Adolph Rode (meaning "Red Adolph") to Cesar Barone, reminding me of the career criminal in Whipping Boy: The Forty-Year Search for My Twelve-Year-Old Bully, Cesar Augustus. This guy married a girl named Lockhart -- same surname as the serial killer in another book I just read, A Perfect Gentleman -- and another character in this story is named David Hill, the same name as Patrick WAYNE Kearney's life partner and death accomplice (see The Trash Bag Murderer.

I'm only a few pages in!!! Whatever next!

There's another one in this book. One of the victims in the story is named Chantee, pronounced "Shantee." I just got through reading a book about serial flimflammer Sante Kimes, who also pronounces her name "Shantee." They even kind of look alike.

AND one of the defense attys is named Steinke, the same name as one of the killers in Runaway Devil: How Forbidden Love Drove a 12-Year-Old to Murder Her Family.

While browsing found this book:

Quit Your Job and Move to Key West - The Complete Guide

Mmm, not today thankyou very much.

(For those not in the know, Key West is enduring a massive hurricane right now).

Koren wrote: "While browsing found this book:

Quit Your Job and Move to Key West - The Complete Guide

Mmm, not today thankyou very much.

(For those not in the know, Key West is enduring a ma..."

So you could wait a week and then move! Lots of real estate available at close-out prices!

Now here's a dumb one. I left the house this morning listening to the Red Elvises' album Bacon on the CD player. I went to the grocery store to return cans, and an employee walked in ahead of me, wearing a t-shirt that said "I Wish It Rained Bacon." Then I went to JoAnn Fabrics and when I was standing in the checkout line, right in front of me was a box of bacon-flavored chocolate bars.

I don't eat pork, but I have to say, bacon-flavored chocolate sounds particularly atrocious (I don't care for most chocolate, either).

Fishface wrote: "Now here's a dumb one. I left the house this morning listening to the Red Elvises' album Bacon on the CD player. I went to the grocery store to return cans, and an employee walked in ahead of me, w..."

Add another one to the list: I live in the self-proclaimed bacon capital of the world. If you don't believe me...

K.A. wrote: "I don't eat pork, but I have to say, bacon-flavored chocolate sounds particularly atrocious (I don't care for most chocolate, either)."

I've tried a couple of bacon chocolate bars and I'm almost sure I still have a Chuao bacon bar floating around the kitchen somewhere -- they're just a little oilier than the usual chocolate bar, as far as I can tell. But then maybe my palate is unrefined. :)

Here's one, I have a facebook page "Obsessed with True Crime", Someone sent me a message - via the page - about the Zodiac, "proof of who the Zodiac killer is/was", then I come here to read reviews and what book is Rita posting reviews about? Zodiac

So? Who is/was he? Tell us!

This one made me smile. Art Shawcross had a supervisor at work who complained to Christopher Berry-Dee about what a jacka$$ he was. The supervisor's name was Donald Harvey.

K.A. wrote: "So? Who is/was he? Tell us!"

"The Real Zodiac Identified:

His name was Donald Gene Harden.His full identity was found hidden in the 408 cipher, and the symbol that he sent (with 4 dots around it) ,represent the 4 crime scenes. The symbol connects all 4 crime scene areas to Salinas Ca where he lived at the time of these crimes when it is applied to a map.He matches both sketches,with and without glasses.The # 408 ,which was the number of characters in Zodiac's first code, was also Don's area code.The 408 cipher had 54 unique symbols,Harden's address was #54 at that time in 1969.

The Melvin Belli meeting address that Zodiac gave was 6726 St Vincent De Paul Thrift Shop. Harden's last 4 digits of his phone # back then were 6726 exactly.In the Nov 8th "Dripping Pen" card,which included the new 340 cipher, Zodiac said he killed 7 victims,when really it was only 5,he lied about August the 8th month. He gave his whole phone number 408-758-6726. His initials DH were hidden in the bus bomb diagram.

Don's zodiac sign was Pisces, so it fits with the water theory. Don's height was in the 5 8" and 5 10" description range, like officer Don Fouke described. Don Fouke got the best look at Zodiac. Harden was in the age range that Fouke described as 40-45. Harden was 41. He even pretended to be a hoaxer and really did call the Jim Dunbar show knowing they would dismiss him as a hoaxer for acting stupid like he didn't know what he was talking about. His wife Bettye wrote a partial confession in Robert Graysmith's Zodiac (which was a Salinas Library book) that read: "I started the Zodiac case and ended it, the last half of this book is theory. When I write the true ending, it will shake the earth!" Bettye Harden.

The first three July 31st letters link to Harden's three worksheets.

Zodiacs first two letters started with (Dear editor,I am the killer of the 2 teenagers ,while the SF Chronicle 3rd letter started (Dear editor,this is the murderer of the 2 teenagers and gave more details making the 3rd letter unique to the first two letters. The 3rd letter to the SF chronicle had the word (Over) written on the bottom of it, where as the first two letters to the Times Herald and the SF Examiner did not. The first two Zodiac July 31st letters were written with the same pen,while the 3rd letter was written with a thicker marking pen,making that page stand out.

Donald Harden's first 2 worksheets were titled as Page I and Page II with Roman numerals,while Page 3 was titled with the number 3 instead of a Roman numeral making the 3rd page unique to the first two.This 3rd Page worksheet also included the word (Over) at the bottom which was underlined. Harden's first two worksheets had the killers message written below the code, unlike the 3rd page worksheet which Harden had the killers message written above the code ,again making the 3rd page stand out.

Zodiac never said he was crack proof when he sent his 1st letters in with the cipher's to the 3 news - papers on July 31 1969. He even said the cipher would be solved, and it was (by himself.) On August 4th 1969,he asked if the police were having a good time with the code. He told them, " if not, tell them to cheer up, when they do crack it, they will have me" Harden cracked it and they had him! He was saying, look, I'm the guy you are looking for. After that code was cracked, Zodiac never mentioned Harden which was a red flag right there! Zodiac only said he was crack proof after Harden solved the 408,and that was true since he solved his own code, therefore making him crack proof. Remember, he didn't say in the 1st letters, here is a cipher,you can't solve it because I am crack proof. He didn't care about that silly message, solving his own code and being undetected gave him the most thrilling experience.

Zodiac threatens murder if the first cipher does not get printed in the paper's. He said if it wasn't printed by Fry (Friday) afternoon, he would go on a killing spree all weekend long. The cipher's were not printed by Friday afternoon. The 3 part 408 cipher was printed and shown to the world on Sunday August 3rd 1969 in full. This is the day Harden said he sat down and saw the cipher in the paper,and just happened to have his code book "Secret and Urgent" right on the shelf near by. This book gives enough details to build the 408 cipher and explains exactly how Harden solved it! It also talks about a guy who fooled the police with his cipher,which Harden did achieve! Zodiac did not kill on that weekend even though the cipher wasn't printed by Friday like he demanded. The reason he waited to kill, was because he wanted to come in and solve the cipher himself.

He wanted to play the bad guy and hero at the same time, the main goal which he achieved. The Concerned Citizen card was sent in by Zodiac himself with a message and cipher key. He was pretending to be a regular citizen, and gave a key 80% correct so the FBI would believe Harden's solution was correct. Nobody in the FBI ,Navy, etc could figure out this unsolvable cipher but Harden AKA "The Zodiac" There was no point to having a stupid message talking about liking to kill and collecting slaves other than the main goal, to solve the code himself, and hide his identity in the cipher. (Donald Gene Harden Salinas School Teacher) was found hidden in the code. The message was a rambling message because he was inserting his identity into the code as he wrote it. The reason for the errors was so it couldn't be solved by anyone but him, and the misspellings were to be a trait of his, but they also played a rule on him being able to fit his identity that he planned into the code.

Donald Harden called the S.F. Chronicle August 8th 1969 saying he solved the code. The person on the line said "sure you did" which was why he later sent a 3 month anniversary Dripping Pen card with yet another cipher (the 340), asking them if they could print it on the front page of their paper. Zodiac sent the November 9th 1969 letter saying "Be Shure" to Print the part he marked out on page 3 in their paper as a taunt about the S.F. Chronicle printing Harden's solution to the world on the front page of their paper which was the 3 month anniversary date.

He gave the clues with that dripping pen card that he was Harden, mentioning the new cipher and giving them the bus bomb diagram making the teacher, school "Harden" connection. This time around with the 340 cipher and dripping pen card, he asked more politely if they could print the new cipher in their paper, and this time he didn't threaten to kill, but just said he was lonely and could "do his thing." He had no intention of this cipher ever being solved. It was all a game for him. Going back to August 9th 1969, Harden was a hero and got front page coverage to solving the code.

He sent the November 9th letter which included the 1st bus bomb diagram, again, letting them know he was in fact a school teacher. This is why Zodiac wasn't caught. He was hiding the truth behind being a good citizen that helped others,that being a school teacher. He was trusted. Ted Bundy worked helping others and talked people out of suicide when they called the center where he worked. BTK pretended to be a regular family man and was involved with his church and nobody suspected either of these guys. This is how they are able to get away with things for long periods of time, or forever."

I tried to tidy up some of the spelling/grammar but lost interest when I saw the extent. Hope this helps.

He also has a Youtube Channel under the same handle that goes over the

Zodiac spelled the word afterlife as two words. How would Harden know to separate that word into two words on the worksheet before Zodiac ever used that word ? Why would Harden ( who was a former English teacher,) separate that word knowing that it is spelled as one word, not two?

Dates of mailed Zodiac letters and how the Hardens could have mailed them.July 31, 1969 letters:Was a Thursday, Harden was on summer vacation.August 4th 1969 letter:Was a Monday,Harden was on summer vacation. October 13,1969 Stine letter: Was a Monday ,Harden could have mailed it Sunday after last pickup, processed on Monday morning,or Bettye could have mailed it. November 8,1969 Dripping Pen card: Was a Saturday, Harden was off. November 9,1969 Bus Bomb Letter: Was a Sunday, again Harden was off. December 20,1969 Belli letter: Was a Saturday, Christmas Vacation for Harden. April 20,1970 My Name is Letter: Was a Monday, could have been mailed Sunday after last pickup, or had Bettye mail it. April 28,1970 ,Dragon card: Was a Tuesday. Harden could have mailed it Monday after school and it wasn't picked up and processed till Tuesday morning,or Bettye could have mailed it.June 26,1970 Button Letter: Was a Friday and Harden was on summer vacation. July 24,1970 Kathleen Johns Letter: Was a Thursday, Harden on summer vacation. July 26,1970 Little List Letter: Was a Saturday, Harden on summer vacation. October 27,1970 Halloween Card: Was a Tuesday, Harden could have mailed in Monday the 26th after school,was picked up Tuesday morning and processed,or Bettye could have mailed it . March 13,1971. La Times Letter: Was a Saturday, Harden was off. January 9,1974 Exorcist Letter: Was a Wednesday. Could have been mailed Tuesday the 8th after school, picked up and processed Wednesday morning. Bettye Harden could have possibly mailed this letter too. February 14,1974 Sla Letter: Was a Thursday, Harden could have mailed it Wednesday the 13th after school ,was picked up and processed Thursday morning. Bettye Harden could have mailed this letter too. May 8,1974 Citizen Card: Was a Wednesday,Harden could have mailed it Tuesday after school,or had Bettye Mail it. July 8.1974 Red Phantom Letter: Was a Monday, Harden was on summer vacation. All attacks/killings were on the weekends. For 14 dates of the letters and the killings ,Harden was available with him having weekends and vacations. Only 7 days on weekdays, which 2 could have been mailed the previous night on a weekend or mailed after Harden left school the previous day. Letters in question when Harden had work days. Possible explanations above. 1 letter in question for 1969. 3 letters in question for 1970.3 letters in question for 1974."

That's a lot to absorb. But at first glace it reminds me of all the elaborate explanations Steve Hodel gave proving that his old man killed Betty Short. "I knew the position of her arms at the crime scene reminded me of a Man Ray photo, and after searching through thousands of his photos, by gum, I found it! And my dad was a big admirer of Man Ray, so what do you make of THAT? Ipso facto he killed the Black Dahlia.

I don't really know what to do with it, it was sent in a message not posted on my page so I don't know if the person wants it made public or not.

I have seen at least 5 references in the past week or so to November 3rd. I am starting to wonder if something big is going to happen that day...

I just stumbled across this one. Not only did Chester Bennington of Linkin Park kill himself in response to Chris Cornell's suicide, but he died on Cornell's birthday. And it turns out that Cornell killed himself on the same day as Ian Curtis, only 37 years later.




...and they all look kind of alike, too...

This was just a little smile. I saw in my high-school newsletter that a guy from the Class of '75 had died of cancer. (That wasn't the smiley part.) What immediately made me smile that he was a lawyer, named Frank Judge. It mentioned that he was published in a book of non-fiction legal stories called Trial by Jury, and of course I looked that up on Amazon. Attorney Frank Judge's contribution to the book was a chapter on Jeff McDonald, and that REALLY made me smile, so spang on the TC shelf it went. Thanks Frank!

Well, last night I was reading Death on the Devil's Teeth: The Strange Murder That Shocked Suburban New Jersey and got confused at one point, because they were talking about Brian somebody and somebody De Palma and it seemed as if they meant Brian De Palma, the name of a movie director. "Is HE part of this terrible murder case!?" I asked myself and had to go back and read it three times to know for sure they meant Brian Paulsen and Cindy De Palma, not anyone named Brian De Palma.

Well, it was getting late so I got on the treadmill and turned on the next movie in a multi-movie disc I was watching to keep me from being aware I'm working out. It was an old fave, RAISING CAIN -- a rare type of film, a suspense thriller about early childhood development. Almost the first thing I saw on the screen, though, were the words "Directed By Brian De Palma."

Well, I just posted the anniversary of O.J. Simpson's murder acquittal at the appropriate discussion. I added a photo of him smirking triumphantly next to the attorney the gals at work used to call "Johnny Cockroach."

Then I looked at City-Data's discussion forums, under True Crime. Someone had just announced that O.J. was released today from prison.

I've been eagerly reading Bad Moon Rising which just arrived in the mail. Then I looked a couple days ahead in my Book of the Dead, to see how soon I needed to add more anniversaries to the discussion, and lo and behold -- this week is the anniversary of the crime this novel is based on, the murder of the Ohta family in Santa Cruz.

This just happened! I was in Party City shopping for a specific toy for a client of mine and heard someone call my name. Who was it but the client's dad and brother.

In another coincidence, the dad was looking to put together the same costume -- Voodoo witch doctor -- that I wore a couple of years ago. I was able to inform him that the store we were standing in was an excellent source of really boss Voodoo witch doctor hats, because I bought mine right there at Party City.

Fishface wrote: "This just happened! I was in Party City shopping for a specific toy for a client of mine and heard someone call my name. Who was it but the client's dad and brother.

In another coincidence, the d..."

Cute!

This was just creepy considering it's Halloween time. (If you're not from the US just google Halloween. Anyway, yesterday my granddaughter and I were coming home from a shopping trip when the song Ben by Michael Jackson came on the radio. Her dad's name is Ben so I told her the song was from a movie about a mouse or rat (I've never seen it so I didn't remember which one) named Ben. I was thinking I would have to check Amazon and see if the movie was available but hadn't done it yet. Last night about 10:30 I decided I was going to see what was on the classic movie channel. Lo and behold, the movie Ben was coming on in a few hours, preceded by the movie Willard!!!!!

Not just anybody can get away with singing a love song to a rat!

Fishface wrote: "Not just anybody can get away with singing a love song to a rat!

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Watched a little bit of Willard last night. Surprisingly, it wasn't too bad.

Koren wrote: "Fishface wrote: "Not just anybody can get away with singing a love song to a rat!

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Watched a little bit of Willard last night. Surprisingly, it wasn't too bad."

Was it the original, with Bruce Davison and Ernest Borgnine, or the remake with Crispin Glover?

I've been having Baker Street coincidences lately. For those younger than me, Baker Street was a 1978 song by Gerry Rafferty that hit the Top 10. Coincidences included finding myself humming it one day for unknown reasons, then searching for a geocache called Baker Street, then turning on Mindhunter later to find the song being used as time-period setting. Now it's stuck in my head and I keep noticing references to the lyrics everywhere.

So has it reached the point where you're light in your head and dead on your feet?

Yeah, pretty much feels like another crazy day. I'm tempted to drink the night away and forget about everything.

ETA: as I was posting this, I got a notification from geocaching.com that a new log had been posted for a cache on my watchlist. It was...Baker Street.

*cue wailing sax*

Fishface wrote: "Koren wrote: "Fishface wrote: "Not just anybody can get away with singing a love song to a rat!

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Watched a little bit of Willard last night. Surprisingly, it wasn't too bad."

Was it the original..."

It is the original.

Excellent. I love The Crispin but I go back a lot farther with the stars of the original.

I've been thinking all morning that today is the anniversary of Coral Watts's murder of Gloria Steele, and tomorrow, Halloween, is the anniversary of his murder of Jeanne Clyne, who lived in the neighborhood where I went to school for 14 years.

Well, I looked in at another discussion forum on this site and in the "Introduce Yourself" discussion there was a new person saying her name is Jeanne and her favorite holiday is Halloween.

A week ago my sister, who lives a few blocks away from me, said she had been seeing a lot of possums in her yard. She leaves cat food out for the strays so we figured that was probably why. I told her in 26 years I had never seen a possum in my yard. Well, guess what I saw last night!

Koren wrote: "A week ago my sister, who lives a few blocks away from me, said she had been seeing a lot of possums in her yard. She leaves cat food out for the strays so we figured that was probably why. I told ..."

Is that a coincidence, or did she give them your home address?

Early on in Cold Storage, the author mentions that a good friend of the woman who disappears in the first chapter already had a bad case of the willies because another woman he knew was murdered in the course of what became known later as the Folsom Wolf case. So -- much later in this same book -- they arrest someone in connection with the disappearance, and who does the arrested man get as his attorney but the man who represented one of the Folsom Wolf suspects.

It just seems unlikely.

A book I just finished, Invisible Killer: The Monster Behind the Mask, was set largely in Big Pine Key, Florida -- a place I have never heard of before. Well, yesterday at Thanksgiving we had the TV turned on with the sound off to watch for Weather Channel alerts about the drive home, and when I looked up what did I see but hurricane footage recorded from 2004 in Big Pine Key. And it was taken the same year -- "The Year of the Hurricanes," 2004 -- as one of the murders in the book.

Fishface wrote: "A book I just finished, Invisible Killer: The Monster Behind the Mask, was set largely in Big Pine Key, Florida -- a place I have never heard of before. Well, yesterday at Thanksgiv..."

That IS a coincidence.

OK, I spent the morning talking to an African-American guy named Shackleford, and I looked at his business card and thought "Now there's a name I've never heard before in my life." So I logged on here hours later and Book Concierge had just reviewed a book concerning a freed slave...named Shackleford.

I saw a distinctive surname in a book I was reading yesterday that was the same as that of a family I worked with a couple of years ago. I wondered how they were doing these days. Well, today in my supervision meeting I learned they've hit the skids and are coming back into our services.

Yesterday my boss and I were talking about people in the office I worked at before this office. Mainly wondering how they are doing. I haven't kept in touch so I have no clue. I told him, "I know who would know, Tom. But I haven't talked to him in a long time."

Last night my phone rings, you can probably guess who was calling. Yep, Tom.

Obviously his ears were burning!

Fishface wrote: "Obviously his ears were burning!"

You're the second person that has said this.

I just logged on here at the library and noticed it's 12:16 p.m. on 12/16/2017.

Fishface wrote: "I just logged on here at the library and noticed it's 12:16 p.m. on 12/16/2017."

Isnt it funny how some people notice little things like that but most don't?