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message 1001: by B.A. (new)

B.A. A. Mealer | 975 comments Found this article on why Amazon may be pulling your book reviews.
It's a robot algorithm.
Go to Author Marketing Experts and search for Amazon Reviews deleted under their blog. It is a lengthy article and might help to understand some of the issues. (no links allowed so hope you can find it)

Hope that helps.


message 1002: by Christine (new)

Christine Calabrese (christinecalabrese) | 202 comments Thank you so much! The ARC Reviewer waited a few days and tried again, and it posted. So, no doubt the bot didn't like it at first, but then he decided it was okay! LOL!


message 1003: by Christine (new)

Christine Calabrese (christinecalabrese) | 202 comments Goodness! Amazon changed all the categories on my books. I thought they would leave that alone, but they didn't. I just redid everything. No wonder my ads have yet to reach the target audience!


message 1004: by Christine (new)

Christine Calabrese (christinecalabrese) | 202 comments Hello,
Has anyone here tried the new INGRAM ID promotional program?


message 1005: by JAKe (new)

JAKe Hatmacher (jakehatmacher) | 87 comments Over the years I've learned a thing or two. Early on after I published my first book I asked someone I knew who had connections if he could somehow help me in getting the word out about my book. He interestingly asked what my goal was, and I said to sell books and make some money. I sensed he wasn't pleased with my answer, and he never contacted me with help. It then entered my mind I was being greedy. I've since given my profits to Shriner's Children's Hospital. I tell people that after I tell them about my books, and after I sense a reluctance to purchase. I can tell you it makes a difference. Many a time they'll reconsider and pull out the cash. I think people appreciate that the author cares about the plight of others rather than just themselves. Be humble and resist the thought of reniging on sending your donation. You'll have joy in your heart, and if you have my experience, you'll sell more copies. Overall, I think most of desire to have our words read. Think about it. I think you'll be glad you did.
JAKe Hatmacher


message 1006: by William (new)

William Dean (williammdean) | 23 comments I've been writing/self-publishing for about 10 years now, have 6 books out there with a 7th at the half-way point and I found your comment definite food for thought. As you say, the real goal is to be read and it'd be nice if what little I make benefited someone in need. I'm pretty sure I'm going to run with this idea. Thanks.


message 1007: by Paul (new)

Paul Ilett | 16 comments I thought I would share a recent experience I had with a Facebook marketing campaign. If you have any thoughts, please share.

I have two books and have just completed a three-day book giveaway for both. I promoted this using Facebook ads and in all more than 1500 copies of my books were 'purchased' through Amazon.

My first book is a thriller and was published in 2014. The second is a self-contained sequel and a murder mystery, published in 2022.

Here are a few interesting things to come from this:

1. My Facebook adverts targeted only people in the UK and all the links were for the UK Amazon site, and yet half the sales were in the US and a quarter were in Australia. I am not quite sure how that happened.

2. Even though both books were promoted equally (same advert, same download page) my second book - the murder mystery - accounts for 92% of the sales. I am not sure if this is because it is newer, or if 'murder mystery' is a more popular genre than 'thriller'.

3. The number of clicks on the adverts account for only half the sales - so I am not sure where all the other sales came from.

4. Being a giveaway, I didn't make any money, but its nice to see books selling regardless.


message 1008: by Eldon, Lost on the road to Mordor (new)

Eldon Farrell | 539 comments Mod
Paul wrote: "I thought I would share a recent experience I had with a Facebook marketing campaign. If you have any thoughts, please share.

I have two books and have just completed a three-day book giveaway for..."


Hi Paul. 1,500 free copies in three days would place you on charts within Amazon and would account for the copies not traceable to the FB ads. Sort of organic visibility - gotta love it :)


message 1009: by JAKe (new)

JAKe Hatmacher (jakehatmacher) | 87 comments William Dean,
Your post sounded as if you were responding to what I wrote. Obviously, that has been my personal experience. I went on to read an entry from a UK author about a thriller and a mystery he wrote and then did a giveaway and purchased Amazon adds to promote. He states he "sold" 1500 books doing that, most of them from the mystery book. Great for him, but my experience with Amazon ads has been a flop.
Anyway, I liked that you took heart in my post and wish you success in whatever form it takes.
JAKe


message 1010: by Paul (new)

Paul Ilett | 16 comments Hi Jake. I’ve had the same experience with Amazon ads. I used Facebook ads for my campaign, which on this occasion seemed to work.


message 1011: by JAKe (new)

JAKe Hatmacher (jakehatmacher) | 87 comments Paul,
I'm sorry, I wrote Amazon but they were FB ads. My bad.


message 1012: by Rock (new)

Rock Whitehouse | 55 comments Hi Paul -

I've been running FB ads since last summer. For six months or so it was a huge winner, 10x any previous period, but the air has now gone out of that balloon and we're pumping hard to get back up.

My experience has been that only something like 25% of sales can be tied to a specific ad, be it FB or Amazon. That you got 50% seems really good,

Eldon has it right - the surplus are 'organic' sales from when Amazon promotes your book in their algorithm, and it's seen by more customers.

Good luck with your books!

Rock


message 1013: by Terry (new)

Terry Spinks | 34 comments Not sure if this is the right thread to ask but I’ll ask anyway. I’ve never tried any sort of advertising or marketing of my books and I have the sales to prove it.
I distribute through D2D, which goes into Amazon.
Question is, if I’m not Amazon only, can I advertise through them? Or do they say no, because I go through d2d?


message 1014: by Eldon, Lost on the road to Mordor (new)

Eldon Farrell | 539 comments Mod
Terry wrote: "Not sure if this is the right thread to ask but I’ll ask anyway. I’ve never tried any sort of advertising or marketing of my books and I have the sales to prove it.
I distribute through D2D, which ..."


Your money spends as good as anyone else's - you don't have to be Amazon exclusive to advertise with them.


message 1015: by Eileen (new)

Eileen Iciek | 172 comments Terry wrote: "Not sure if this is the right thread to ask but I’ll ask anyway. I’ve never tried any sort of advertising or marketing of my books and I have the sales to prove it.
I distribute through D2D, which ..."


Marketing with Amazon is fine, but your book won't get many views if there aren't reviews/ratings of it. There are a bunch of book marketing websites, BookBub being the granddaddy of them all (but expensive), but there are a bunch of others. Fussy Librarian has given decent and consistent results for a reasonable price. And consistent results, for me, means getting hundreds of books out to readers at one time. Maybe I make little to nothing, but that's not exactly the point at that time.

As with any new, unfamiliar product on the market, people need a reason to purchase it. A sale price on Fussy or Bookbub will help with that. The more sales, the more ratings/reviews will pop up on Amazon & GR, the more interest will build for your book.

And marketing like this is something you need to keep doing. Not a one and done job.


message 1016: by JAKe (new)

JAKe Hatmacher (jakehatmacher) | 87 comments I'm soon to indie-publish my next book. This one is non-fiction. The non-fiction part is not important for my question, which is, has anyone self-published through Ingram Spark? What has been your experience with it? You see, I've published my two other books on Amazon, but I'm looking for ways to get my next book into bookstores, libraries, and all the many other on-line outlets including Amazon in order to maximize sales.
Your real experiences would be greatfully appreciated. 🙂


message 1017: by Jane (new)

Jane Reid | 3 comments Hi Jake, have you considered D2D? They put your book on multiple platforms, bookstores and libraries, although they take more than Amazon in royalties. One of their rules though is that you can't be enrolled in kdp select to use them.


message 1018: by Ava (new)

Ava (ava_lifezen) | 3 comments JAKe wrote: "I'm soon to indie-publish my next book. This one is non-fiction. The non-fiction part is not important for my question, which is, has anyone self-published through Ingram Spark? What has been your ..."

Hi Jake - I've published three books on both Amazon and IngramSpark. I've had no issues whatsoever with Ingram. The process is pretty straight forward. The only thing is you'd need a new set of paperback and hardcover covers because Ingram has their own cover templates for you to use.

Hope this helps,
Ava


message 1019: by Wanjiru (new)

Wanjiru Warama (wanjiruwarama) | 218 comments JAKe wrote: "Over the years I've learned a thing or two. Early on after I published my first book I asked someone I knew who had connections if he could somehow help me in getting the word out about my book. He..."

I just saw your post. This is a great idea. I'm already donating money for supplies and other items to two disadvantaged schools. Why not tie it to my books? Thanks


message 1020: by Laura (new)

Laura Koerber | 37 comments Hi I have a question which perhaps someone can answer. According to Amazon, I have some profits from sales. However, I have never received a check. How do I get the money? I've read the whole KD size carefully and it never explains how to set up a channel between Amazon and me to have me get the money. It just says something vague about a bank with no link, no description of how to access the bank. I need step by step directions with all the steps included. Can anyone help? Thank you.


message 1021: by Wanjiru (new)

Wanjiru Warama (wanjiruwarama) | 218 comments Laura wrote: "Hi I havKDPTopicstion which perhaps someone can answwill send you a check iif yourr accountt profits from sales. However, I have never received a check. How do I get the money? I've read the whole KD si..."

I opened my account with Kdp years ago. If I recall correctly, they would send you a check ifyour account reached a certain amount. But opening an account is the key. They'll deposit your money in your account no matter the amount.

Try the following:
On your KDP page, you’ll see where it says “Create.�
The last line on that section - “Create a book | Book timelines | Free ISBNs | Tools and resources,�
- click on the Tools and resources.
On that section below “Help Topis� on the left, there is Account & Taxes
� Set up your KDP account

Hope this helps


message 1022: by Laura (new)

Laura Koerber | 37 comments Thank you, Wanjiru! I followed your directions and got a check!


message 1023: by L.L. (new)

L.L. Moore (llmoore_author) | 1 comments Hello! My name is L.L. Moore. I’ve been writing for over a decade and just started taking writing seriously last year in October.

But I’m trying to read more indie publishing work, mainly in the fantasy genre. But I also like science fiction, horror, mystery, and historical fiction. If anyone wants to recommend any or have their own book that was recently published. Let me know.


message 1024: by P. Pherson (new)

P. Pherson | 16 comments Hi L.L.,

I am a fantasy writer looking for reviews on my own. Not sure if the forum wants me to post up links, but east to find in my profile.


message 1025: by Darla (new)

Darla Brill | 1 comments Looking for reviews of my first book (it 'll be a Serie about griddle).
If anyone is interested, you find the book on my profile.

I'm not sure if I can write this (IN CASE You CAN CANCEL IT):
and if You want to become my ARC team , it'll be great.

TKS


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