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Ready Player One by Ernest Cline

I'm bowled over by the idea of this becoming a movie - the licensing costs are going to be staggering. I did enjoy seeing the Iron Giant in the preview, even though IG wasn't exactly an 80s movie. And Tom Sawyer! Thank God it wasn't Wham!

The story moved along quickly enough that it wasn't boring.
I liked the world the way he developed it- even if a part of me thinks that a world like he described is way too much of a possibility.
Randy wrote: "I read this about a year and a half ago. I enjoyed it a lot - after all I grew up in the 80s and the book is really a big pile of 80s nostalgia mixed in with a hefty amount of nerd cred - but it wa..."
The first thing I when I heard that somebody was making a money was that half the budget was just going to have to go to all the licenses and royalties. Fingers crossed its a good one.
When casting was announced, I immediately felt Simon Pegg was the perfect choice for Ogden Morrow. Not 100% sold on the rest of the casting, but we just have to wait and see.

I was in my 20s & 30s during this decade & all 3 of my kids were born, so probably a decade older than the optimum audience. In some ways, I think that made the decade even more mind blowing, though. I certainly remember the arcade games with a lot of fondness & could conjure up most of the music in my imagination easily enough.

Like Jim, I'm on the far side of the nostalgia curve for this book. Seen the movies, because SF fan; aware of the TV shows but not a viewer; no recollection of the music, some familiarity with D&D, never played Joust, and the only reason I know Pac-Man is it was built into the tabletop at Garcia's where we used to slosh down margaritas after work. :) So I come to the novel with a slightly skewed appreciation of the background.

I actually liked the world he built with the poor living in car stacks and the way school worked

Becky, daughter of my high school buddy, lived across the road & was very studious. Brandon, my wild child, was the opposite. They were in the same class & it was remarkable if he ever outperformed her scholastically. He did on a report & it was all due to tech. His paper was printed with a color printer, neatly typed with proper footnotes. Hers was handwritten with pasted pictures & gray-scale copies. He spent an hour on the computer using Archie & Veronica, she spent hours in the library.
Since then, I've tried to make sure any kids I know about have access to computers, even if they're old ones. Not really an issue any more, but for a while, I gave away quite a few. I think it made a difference in a couple of cases.

When so many of our genre authors seem to pride themselves on making their books as long and/or as dense and/or as slow as possible this was a definite palate cleanser.


I recently was engaged and flipping through this book again because it came up as a subject of an article arguing that Artemis was essentially sexually harassed through the whole book, geez when even foolish child romance turns into a call for boycotting.
It was a fun read after having just finished Neuromancer which felt like a chore with all its made up terms.

Lowlight is the unironic use of the word "suxorz". Eighties references are doled out similarly to how Family Guy uses them: liberally and without jokes or context. Wade's description of what he called "the Canon" made me sad in its myopia, though in that respect it does accurately reflect most conversations around SF.

I'm really looking forward to the film and hope for a good translation.

Having spent a lot of time in LotR and HP oriented newsgroups some years ago, the approach to "canon" in the book is pretty accurate.


I was born mid 70’s, so think this might be my kind of book.

“I watched a lot of YouTube videos of cute geeky girls playing '80s cover tunes on ukuleles. Technically, this wasn't part of my research, but I had a serious cute-geeky-girls-playing-ukuleles fetish that I can neither explain nor defend.�
But every now and then there's a reference that makes me smile (hey Aech, Legend is an awesome movie, it's got unicorns in it!! Ok, I know their horns kind of flop about as they move around, but still, live action unicorns! That was seriously important to me back then)

Do you still have anything that can read them? I put all my old games into directories years ago & can play most of them via DosBox. I still play 'Joust' or 'One Must Fall' occasionally. I think OMF was one of the most overlooked video games of the 90s. There are a lot for free here:

While I enjoyed the fast-paced, action-packed nature of the story, I definitely found the idea of being plugged into a virtual world all the time a bit disturbing. The book was a fun, light-hearted read with a lot of nostalgia... which I think made the dystopian glimpses every so often were pretty disturbing. There are already people who've died from playing video games for too long, so I find the idea of an immersive world which is more real than reality is terrifying. As a result I got stuck with characterising this book, because I want to call it a feel-good book, but I also think it's very dystopian!


Definitely! Its tone may be light, but it's got people living in unstable stacks of cars escaping their grim reality by plugging themselves online. I found the part where the hero goes through a physical transformation for the game the most disturbing.
I'm surprised so few people addressed this.

Do you still have anything that can read them? I put all my old games into directories years ago & can play most of them via DosBox..."
Unfortunately no, not the 5 1/4". I can read the 3 1/2" disks I have.
Some of the old games I own I have used DOSBOX to access them, Sword of Aragon and King's Bounty for example.
I have also purchased some games through GOG like Master of Orion and Warlords Battle Cry.


The blend of futuristic themes and memorabilia was well done. The story didn’t strike me as very original but I was totally entertained. I can see myself re-reading it.


In the end I enjoyed it. It was fun, I liked the characters. Even though I was an 80's kid I didn't play arcade games, I did have a Mac Classic with a tiny screen and 40k harddrive though, later it was Mac Performa and I had things like Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego. And while I obviously watched TV shows and movies, clearly not the same ones Halliday enjoyed :) I still enjoyed having them described to me, and now I want to play Joust, it's the most ridiculous sounding game!
The book had it's serious points too such as corporations with great power, people addicted to virtual worlds, also taking people for who they are and not what they look like (was sorta hoping Aech would turn out to be Wade's "Chuck", hehe), and of course total environmental and economic collapse. While that part is only a backdrop to the overall story, it would be a rather different tone if everyone out there was living in utopia.
I did have to suspend some disbelief that it was possible for Wade to memorize and learn so much stuff in a matter of 5-6 years though. I mean the 80's was a full decade, and to memorize a movie you need to watch it a lot. And to ace a game, you need to play it a lot. And it takes time to read all those books. And stuff dribbled over into the 70's and 90's too. Even if you did all this full time, though he didn't since he went to school, or sold fixed up laptops, or worked as tech support on OASIS, plus needed to eat/sleep/etc :) But I still kind of liked how the main characters seemed to know everything, even if it was basically impossible, made you root for them to beat IOI.
For what it's worth, after trudging through The Wanderer and The Dispossessed, this was a breath of fresh air, you know, actual action and a plot that didn't move at a snail's pace :) Not that all slow plots are bad, but after reading a few in a row one just needs to have a story that one can't put down because ones can't wait to see how it ends.

Dystopian? Yes, there is a grimmer reality to it, of course, as people have pointed out. The 80's might have seemed great for those of us who grew up in them, but it was also the decade where humanity finally managed to punch its way through the ozone layer, thanks to excessive use of cans of hairspray. I seem to remember that fridges had something to do with it as well. Whatever the causes, the 80's was a pretty big turning point in the way the world (both environmentally and socially) would start to head in.
So, yes, it was a nice idea to have a stark difference between the 'wonderful' world of the Oasis, and the reality of life outside, but I couldn't help thinking the author could have painted a much starker picture of the real world. What this book lacked was some atmosphere. His descriptions didn't really conjure up much of a sense of the environment, and how nasty it was.
It was easier going inside the Oasis, but that wasn't really anything to do with the author's powers of narration. There was a distinct lack of description when it came how things looked, and though that wasn't a massive problem (I mean, anyone familiar with fantasy, D&D related or not, knows what a dragon and a castle look like) it would have been nice for there to have been more meat on its descriptive bones. At one point it did start to read like one of those old text adventure games (I walked through the waterfall, I entered a chamber and found a big rock with a guitar sticking out of it ect) I'm still not sure if the author was writing it that way on purpose or not.
Visual description may have been lacking, but information dumping was not. In places there was too much excessive exposition for my liking. It couldn't really be helped in some places. The reader has to know the history of Halliday and the Oasis, and how the whole place is set up, but info was often repeated, or things that I felt were kind of obvious were explained in near infinite detail, which got a bit annoying in places.
Despite all of this, I still found it to be a page turner, and I did actually enjoy reading. I just can't explain why, because there are so many reasons for me not to like it. I mean, at its center lies a teenage puppy love story for flips sake, and I don't think it's possible to get further away from my reading norms than that.
I think I'm just going to have to add this to my list of guilty pleasures, and never ever tell anyone that I like it.

I don't mind the lack of visual description, I am not really a fan of a lot of description. I don't do a lot of imagining what people/places look like when I read so I usually don't spend a lot of time on the descriptive material.


I was really worried that the nostalgia was the only reason I liked the book but I couldn't stop reading. I think that Cline did a marvelous job with the video game aspect. I play a lot of RPG games and it was just so satisfying.

Well, it was inevitable. I enjoyed the first book although I didn't love it. I'll go with a wait-and-see approach on the sequel.

Hmm, not sure this is the kind of book that would benefit from a sequel, it ended in a nice place and let's your imagination run as to what the winners will do with their money or if maybe (view spoiler)

Hmm, not sure this is the kind of book that would benefit from a sequel, it ende..."
Yup, I liked the way it ended, I'll pretend the sequel doesn't exist until someone tells me it's amazing. Anything less than amazing and I don't want to read it.

Agreed. It worked so well as a standalone - not everything needs a sequel!

The last is very odd considering I haven't read the book and only found out about it 3 months ago, after my new book was already out. I guess Artemis is probably the name you'd look to first for a high tech female role. Maybe?


On the one hand, I want to see what comes next.
On the other, I don't.
On the third hand, I'd love to see more adventures in the OASIS itself.

I love how it's like the old internet before facebook and selfies. Just people playing and talking and respecting anonymity. I miss that internet.
I haven't played video games much since the 80s but I think I'd really like OASIS.
Seems obvious to me that Aech(view spoiler) .
The villan is an evil corporation. *yawn* That's getting really old.
Could be called Willie Wonka and the Internet :p

I'm come across two really blatant errors:
There was a reference to a "REVENGE of the Jedi" poster.( I know that was an early title for "Return of the Jedi".)
He said the quote "it's full of stars" and "Also Sprach Zarathustra" are in the movie "2010". (It's "2001". I know. It took me three tries to stay awake through that snoozefest.)
Am I decoding the secrets of the OASIS??

I'm come across two really blatant errors:
There was a reference to a "REVENGE of the Jedi" poster.( I..."
I don't remember the "Revenge of the Jedi" part, but as far as the other I believe 2010 was the sequel to 2001 and it was released in the 1980s - it also contained the quote "it's full of stars" and I think I remember them using Also Sprach Zarathustra in the soundtrack as well.


I think I remember reading that somewhere.
It was before I was born, so I don't know for sure.
But I know it was called Revenge of the Jedi until fairly late in the process.

The Revenge of the Jedi thing is in chapter three. Bottom of page 71 if you have the same edition as me.

During the birthday party I realized I was picturing Morrow as Stan Lee.


I had something like that in my mind too, especially when they meet him in person.

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