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Moby-Dick; or, The Whale is a novel by American writer Herman Melville, published in 1851 during the period of the American Renaissance. Sailor Ishmael tells the story of the obsessive quest of Ahab, captain of the whaler Pequod, for revenge on Moby Dick, the white whale that on the previous whaling voyage bit off Ahab's leg at the knee. The novel was a commercial failure and out of print at the time of the author's death in 1891, but during the 20th century, its reputation as a Great American Novel was established. William Faulkner confessed he wished he had written it himself, and D. H. Lawrence called it "one of the strangest and most wonderful books in the world", and "the greatest book of the sea ever written". "Call me Ishmael" is among world literature's most famous opening sentences.
The product of a year and a half of writing, the book draws on Melville's experience at sea, on his reading in whaling literature, and on literary inspirations such as Shakespeare and the Bible. The white whale is modeled on the notoriously hard to catch actual albino whale Mocha Dick. The detailed and realistic descriptions of whale hunting and of extracting whale oil, as well as life aboard ship among a culturally diverse crew, are mixed with exploration of class and social status, good and evil, and the existence of God. In addition to narrative prose, Melville uses styles and literary devices ranging from songs, poetry, and catalogs to Shakespearean stage directions, soliloquies, and asides.
Dedicated to Nathaniel Hawthorne, "in token of my admiration for his genius", the work was first published as The Whale in London in October 1851, and under its definitive title in New York in November. Hundreds of differences, mostly slight and some important, are seen between the two editions. The London publisher censored or changed sensitive passages and Melville made revisions, as well, including the last-minute change in the title for the New York edition. The whale, however, appears in both editions as "Moby Dick", with no hyphen.

I have not read this before, so I'm looking forward to starting 2018 with a "beast" of a classic!
I hope to participate in this one, but I am not promising until I actually have a copy. Unlikely to be ready to start on January 1st, but you never know...


what? boring parts? this cannot be. I cannot believe it. For example, the chapter on Cetology. Did you know this was a real thing? The study of whales? I bet you did not! (well, I did not) But there is, and now you will learn all about what the study of whales was like in the 1800s. Critical information. And in this chapter, and I trust this does not require a spoiler alert, our narrator describes ALL of the whales he knows, as well as the "rabble of uncertain, fugitive, half-fabulous whales, which, as an American whaleman, I know by reputation, but not personally."
so there you go. fascinating stuff. and this is not to mention the chapters on 'fast and loose' fish, 'of whales in paint in teeth &c' as well as 'monstrous pictures of whales' and 'less erroneous pictures of whales'


I never got past the sermon, audio or otherwise, but I saw the John Huston movie with Gregory Peck as Ahab, and have used that as a 'crib' all my life.
You used to be able to see the top highlights at Kindle.amazon.com (and for all I know you can do that on GR now), and the sermon (ch. 9) is where most people stop reading.

Current high schools seemingly never assign anything longer than 300 pages nowadays and certainly nothing written before the 20th century (apart from Shakespeare).

Fast and loose whales? Ok, I just got an image of pole dancing, stripper whales - which I think will stay with me.

Even "honors" or AP English?



The Sorrow of War: A Novel of North Vietnam by Bảo Ninh). Like you I just wish that the diversity also included the past classics/canon in an appropriate blend. Regardless, Melville has certainly been in the required curriculum many decades. I presume this has changed a little bit at this point in time?

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Well of course moby dick is real."
No doubt about that!




"Boring" is very much a relative concept - perhaps you will enjoy all of it, Tracey! :)

Maybe. Also it is age dependent. What I would not have countenanced in my 20s I find love in my 50s.

I am wondering if this need for diversity is because we all of us are 'endlessly searching through oceans of night' Seeking answers to eternal questions...
Is Moby Dick a novel about such and not a story about a whale at all? The quest of each human on his own search.

I think you are on to something, Tracey! Definitely searching....


I didn't find the intro helpful in my copy so I just dived in and am enjoying it very much. I would give it 4 stars at this point.


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Well of course moby dick is real."
Depends on your definition of real.

/review/show...

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This was an excellent review, I recommend everyone read it.

Would that make Shatner the great white whale?
(Could. not. resist. lame.. joke..)
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Hope I'm not the only one here with this 'version'?

The last week of reading is from chapter 106 through to epilogue which includes chapters 106-135 + epilogue.




this is the version I have too, Linda. I haven't read any of the extras yet, but will be interesting!




Some observations: Moby Dick gets more bad notices than any other book in the whole goodreads library!
I have had people tell me, prior to GRs, that they loved the whaling story and hated the melodrama. I have had an equal number of people tell me they loved the melodrama and hated the whaling story!
Personally, I think it is great with the two aspects woven together; and that the book's greatest strength his Melville's wonderful writing! I think the theme is hubris.

I haven't listened to the whole thing, but bear in mind "spoilers."
He says Moby Dick is 'not a novel It is a Shakespearean prose epic."
Lots of analysis of the Biblical names.
You Tube has a lot of MD videos.