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Aug 01, 2014 11:12AM

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It ended up being right up my alley. Then, I decided to see who this Patrick Rothfuss fellow was. You know how some people hate Ender's Game because of Orson Scott Card? With Mr. Rothfuss, I actually enjoyed the book more, retroactively, because he happens to be a wonderful human being.
I personally like that, while it's a traditional coming-of-age story, and while it can be annoying that Kvothe seems to be amazing at everything, we have a every reason to believe that he's a highly unreliable narrator... but you get some hints about the truth of things during the interludes. Personally, I can't wait to see how the story ends.







Your not alone, I forced my way through this book the whole time hoping it would get better. Didn't happen for me. So many people love this book and I just don't get it. I also don't like the Wheel of Time series and the first book of that had the same feel as this for me.


It's an excellent read, but if you enjoyed, say, the dance of cloaks pick, this probably isn't for you, as it's at the polar opposite end of exciting action vs pleasant discovery.


Give it one hundred pages, and if you aren't enjoying it by then you aren't going to enjoy it any number of pages after that. But once i got past like page 50 everything started rolling so I'm enjoying this a great deal now.

I think you're right. Two years ago, everyone around me kept talking about this book like it was the Second Coming. First time I read it, I found it to be a fairly rote fantasy with high quality prose built on the conceit of a self-aware Mary Sue character.
I normally wouldn't reread a book so soon, but I decided if I could get it from the library soon enough I'd give it another chance for this month's S&L. And it's much better the second time around--I'm seeing things I didn't notice the first time around, and a lot of the book makes more sense to me now. (Jo Walton's reread series at Tor.com has also been very helpful.) This reread might give me the push to finally move on to Wise Man's Fear.

On the other hand - that piece of the littke Kvothe is what I'm reading again now after reading book 2. There was a "wait, what?" part that sent me back to read a particular part. Also a very sad part.
For those who read book 2 (view spoiler)


A "one and done" for me ...

I like my books to have a strong plot. Well, no, that's a lie. I like my books to have any plot whatsoever. NotW does not have any plot as far as I can tell. There has been no foreshadowing telling me about what will happen later on in this book, no repeating themes besides Kvothe's strengths/frailties, no reason for the narrator to discuss each and every detail of this man's life even when they are random or boring. Rothfuss spec'ed all his talent points into prose, neglecting storytelling structure in the process.
I read for plot because plot is the story, and thus far there has been no plot linking all the different scenes together. I'm twelve hours into the audiobook and it feels like there's no forward motion. I'm almost halfway into an audiobook which is longer than 24hours long and it feels as though the story has yet to start, which to me is extremely unacceptable.
I get it that this is supposed to be a character's biography, but it's just not clicking with me as being interesting. Every single vignette in the book is well written, but not exciting. I wanted a story I could sink my teeth into, a parable I could recount to friends, but NotW does not provide. I kinda wish I had given up listening to this book sooner.


Kvothe like 'quoth'


While he is presented as a hero and obviously the lead character of the book, I too struggle some with him (though hate is a bit strong). There are definitely unlikable aspects about him. One thing that helps me care more for him is what happens to his family.

This is my second attempt at reading it. The first attempt a year or so ago was audible only. This time I'm doing both audible and kindle versions. That seems to help...even if I'm not very far yet.

I have to be honest. I'm struggling. If I was reading this in paper form, I might have stopped there and then. But the audiobook makes it somewhat more enjoyable..so I will continue until the (bitter) end. I hope it picks up a bit though...But I have to admit: I'm more laser than sword.
Anybody else thinks that in a lot of cases, the audio version is more enjoyable than the written version? More immersive? I have long thought that listening to an audio book was not in fact on a par with reading. But I now consider it another good and entertaining way to consume literature, especially for rereads.




Is he though? He's incredibly prodiguous in so many things, yes... but he has a lot of traits that make him flawed as well. I think that Rothfuss' characterization of Kvothe is very balanced in that while is very skilled (guitar god, genius arcanist) he also has a good number of negative traits (lacks patience, too prideful).

I mean, Kvothe's seemingly perfect recall of conversations he had at 11 is a little strange to me, but it was no more strange than Louis recalling conversations from 200 years before.

Give yourself permission to put the book down if it's not grabbing you. The gods know I did.

Is he though? He's incredibly prodiguous in so many things, yes... but he has a lot of traits that make him flawed as well. I think that ..."
It's good to keep in mind the story is told from Kvothe's point of view. He may be putting his own "spin" on the story.
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