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message 1: by Irene (new)

Irene (wingdesilverii) Taylor wrote: "Hi I cut myself with sharpish glass for a personal reason it hurts but never draws blood usually it leaves a red mark on my skin or a red bump it's only scared once but once I tied a rope to my nec..."

Hey Taylor, thank-you for sharing. I don't know what you are open to here, or if you are even looking for help, but self-harming tends to be one of the more negative ways of properly dealing with something that tends to just get worse...I personally would like to try and help you stop and find a positive alternative because you really shouldn't be abusive to yourself to handle something, and maybe you've heard it before, but one day you are going to make a mistake and do something you didn't intend to and go too far. I would prefer to not see that happen, even though I don't really know you, just because I have a particular respect for life and tend to treat it as a more sacred item that isn't meant to be just tossed.

So just as something for you to think about, i'm here if you want to talk.


message 2: by Irene (new)

Irene (wingdesilverii) Taylor wrote: "Thanks"

Anytime, just remember you have people out there who care and don't want to see you hurt :)


message 3: by gяαffιтι *яαωя яαωя*, Call me Music (new)

gяαffιтι *яαωя яαωя* qυєєи (myhandinyours) | 242 comments Mod
Taylor wrote: "Hi I cut myself with sharpish glass for a personal reason it hurts but never draws blood usually it leaves a red mark on my skin or a red bump it's only scared once but once I tied a rope to my nec..."

Im not the best one to come to when it comes to self harm. It is one of those things i can listen to but i dont know whag to really do. You can come to me to vent. Now Irene on the other hand knows more what shes saying.




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Just thought I'd post that here..."


I just need to keep a link to that interview in my notes or something.


message 4: by Will Solace (new)

Will Solace (willsolace) | 3 comments Fᴀʟʏɴɴ � I ᴀ� ғʀᴇᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴅᴇᴄɪᴅ� wrote: "
Just thought I'd post that here..."


Who's quote is that?


message 5: by Will Solace (new)

Will Solace (willsolace) | 3 comments Excuse me as I add that to my quotes.


message 6: by Hayley (new)

Hayley | 11 comments Taylor wrote: "I've haven't been cutting myself lately because I don't feel the need to plus I can't find my glass usually once or twice a week I want to cut myself"

same
since I went to the hospital for a suicide attempt 3 months ago, ive been wanting to but my mum has taken away EVERYTHING that has the potential to cut my skin

now I just snap a hair tie around my wrist, I recommend that if the thoughts get too much. it helps and doesn't scar!


message 7: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 51 comments I used to have fits and would start hitting myself until I bruised purple and blue


message 8: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 51 comments Why?


message 9: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 51 comments I cut myself about a week ago


message 10: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 51 comments What rope


message 11: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 51 comments Oh wow, don't you think maybe you should give it to someone else to hide for you? Because if you hide it yourself you'll always nowhere it is in the back of your head


message 12: by Irene (new)

Irene (wingdesilverii) Morning guys, not sure where to start in all of this, sorry I haven't been around (life sometimes gets in the way of things you want to do, ya know?).

I think i'll first start with alynn � Dɪ� I ᴇᴠᴇʀ ᴛᴇʟʟ ʏᴏᴜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇғɪɴɪᴛɪᴏɴ ᴏ� ɪɴsᴀɴɪᴛʏ﹖comment. While I am all for finding an alternative method to destructive self harm, I want to say that your suggestion isn't all that safe and is nearly as dangerous (if not more so). That burning sensation you feel is your skin starting to freeze a little, which will eventually cause it to die and start to rot. So I hate to shoot your method down, but it's not as safe as you probably think it is.

Regarding Haley's comment, that is most certainly a better alternative to cutting, but it's still damaging your skin so my suggestion is to work on moving to something else as it will scar eventually.

@Amanda: Everyone slips up occasionally, how long has it been since you cut before that?

@Taylor: Would you like to talk to me about what's going on? I think you're making a smart decision in putting objects that you can harm yourself with away and would encourage you to find someone you can trust that you can give those to.

To all of you, I know self-destructive behaviors are a pretty great feeling way to cope, but there are people around you that care. A lot of them watch you struggle and have no idea how to help you so they sort of shut down, start talking to you less. Self-destructive behaviors are addictive so the longer you go without them the less you are inclined to do whatever it is you do to cope.

Now, you have to find another way to cope though, you can't just quit managing things and hold it all in. A good friend of mine uses a marker when she wants to cut. She does lines, or doodles until she calms down, or something of that nature on where ever she was planning to cut. I think her current color is silver, but she started out with red. Someone else I know carries a piece of string about four inches long (long enough to mess with but not hurt yourself) that he ties knots into.

I could sit here and list alternative ways to "deal", but I won't. I could also lecture you on how you need to stop, but I won't. I will say that even though I am not online all the time I do check my email, so message me if you want to talk (even if it's just to say hey) and i'll see the notification in the mail.


message 13: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 51 comments I cut a few weeks ago, but I figured it out with my therapist, sort of


message 14: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 51 comments Sometime do you ever feel like why would did my parents decide to have me? Like why would you want to bring someone else into this hell and make them suffer as well? I feel as if my parents reason for having children is selfish because they have the idea it was for me to bring new life, but in reality it is to make there life have more purpose and feel more meaningful and so when they pass there will still be someone to remember their existence, does anyone else feel like that/even understand that?


message 15: by Irene (new)

Irene (wingdesilverii) Amanda wrote: "I cut a few weeks ago, but I figured it out with my therapist, sort of"

That's good, even telling your therapist is a good thing!


message 16: by Julia (new)

Julia Amanda wrote: "Sometime do you ever feel like why would did my parents decide to have me? Like why would you want to bring someone else into this hell and make them suffer as well? I feel as if my parents reason ..."

I do.


message 17: by Julia (new)

Julia Okay this will probably sound really stupid. I don't really care though. Recently I've been coping by watching my TV shows. That may sound crazy, but is don't care. I really want to watch it, but can't. Please don't judge me when I say this next part. I was really frustrated about it last night, and I cut myself. Just once, like a scratch on my wrist. I murdered a poor butterfly :(
My mom saw it and asked if I was cutting again and I lied to her. I feel bad about it, but I'm not about to tell her the he truth.
Like I really want to go to this used books store and stuff to get the tv show because when I was there'd the other day they had them... And then my library to get the season after that.
I guess this tv show is an obsession right now, but once I catch up I will be more okay then I am now.
I used to read a lot more than I do now to cope, but since I don't have a book to read, I can't. Hence the cutting. Ugh. I'm ashamed if myself because this is really pathetic.


message 18: by Irene (new)

Irene (wingdesilverii) Julia wrote: "Okay this will probably sound really stupid. I don't really care though. Recently I've been coping by watching my TV shows. That may sound crazy, but is don't care. I really want to watch it, but c..."

It's really not that stupid sounding, you have found a non-destructive way to cope so that's really good. The bad part is you are stressing out about it and going back to cutting. So thank-you for saying something :)


message 19: by Julia (new)

Julia I know. I think part of it is the unavalibility, since it's not on Amazon Prime and I don't have Netflix. Lol


message 20: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 51 comments I don't know but sometimes I just feel so messed up, I'm on numerous meds and see a therapist once or twice a week and see a psychiatrist once a month, I want to get off my meds but don't think I can handle it, I just feel so fucked up sometimes compared to everyone else, and I'm starting to become anorexic, I don't know why sometimes I'm okay with my weight but other times I feel like I'm fat, anyone have any advice, I know I spilled a lot


message 21: by Julia (new)

Julia No, you aren't that messed up. I take a bunch of meds too. I don't see my therapist or psychiatrist as much as you, but I don't live very close to them.

I know how you feel when you say you feel messed up compared to everyone else. Because I feel that way too. I also used to think that I would never get off my medicine. But after a few years the dosages have con down and my control up. So doing give up hope!


And I understand how you feel about your weight, because I'm having weight/body issues right now too.


message 22: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 51 comments Yeah it's like I feel fat even thou I know I'm average and I want to starve myself but it's hard and I just don't know why I'm having such body issues along with all of these other issues


message 23: by Julia (new)

Julia I'm a bit above average I think, but so is my height, so... I try to tell myself I'm normal. But I try not to think about it too much.


message 24: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 51 comments Same here! But when I see their people who are really skinny I just can't help but think about it, or if my friends are trying to loose weight I always think why can't that be me loosing 10 pounds or whatever


message 25: by Irene (new)

Irene (wingdesilverii) Amanda wrote: "I don't know but sometimes I just feel so messed up, I'm on numerous meds and see a therapist once or twice a week and see a psychiatrist once a month, I want to get off my meds but don't think I c..."

I think "messed up" is a pretty relative term Amanda, I mean everyone has something "wrong" with them so don't give yourself a label. I am "messed up" too but I'm not on meds so does that make me not "messed up" since i'm not medicated and seeing a psych of some sort? Just something to consider before you start labeling yourself... and like Julia said, you aren't alone in having problems so don't feel like you are by yourself and abnormal.

Regarding your second comment, I don't know how old you are (and don't feel like you need to say either) but if you are in your early teens having body image issues is pretty darn normal. You are maturing and your body is trying to change into an adult woman's body from the pre-teen girl form and it's going to hit a bump or two along the way. You aren't going to fill out evenly at the same time, you may gain weight in your hips before your thighs and when that happens you get this section around your middle that tends to make you body conscious because you don't have the weight in your thighs yet to give you a more womanly figure. You might be like I was and have your hips and thighs fill out and your upper body be slow on developing so you get this bottom heavy look going on that, according to the magazine covers we see, is incredibly unattractive and "fat". So this process will go until you are in your late teens and by then you will pretty much have the shape you are going to have (of course, you can alter it by exercise and eating properly, but I mean as far as what sort of womanly figure you'll have).

Also, if you have other issues they can make you more aware of your insecurities and those can manifest into bigger problems. I don't know if you mentioned that you have depression, but depression can cause you to feel bad about how you look.

Now regarding something you said in your second comment. Do you know what starving does to your body in the long run? Your body is designed to notice when you are consuming less calories so it starts trying to save as many of those calories (particularly when there are more available after not having any). This is a feature developed from when there would be regular times of almost famine (ie, winter months). Your body would store as many of the calories consumed during the spring/summer into fat so when food was not as plentiful you would have a better chance of not starving. So when you purposely starve yourself your body thinks that food is scarce and it needs to save as many of those calories as possible, when you hit your target weight by starving yourself and start eating normally again your body will gain a whole bunch of weight because it has reverted into that famine mode and thinks that the calories you are taking in are rare and it needs to same them.

So try and figure out why you don't like the way you are and make some healthy decisions if you find you want to change the way you look. I am sure one of your therapists would be willing to help.


message 26: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 51 comments Thanks Irene you have given me a lot to think about and reconsider, I guess i just want to feel more confident with myself and my body but don't know how


message 27: by Irene (new)

Irene (wingdesilverii) Amanda wrote: "Thanks Irene you have given me a lot to think about and reconsider, I guess i just want to feel more confident with myself and my body but don't know how"

No problem, glad I could help! I honestly am not sure what else to tell you with that, as I mentioned to Julia, I grew up in a pretty great environment regarding self confidence and when I was in school and ran into the people who wanted to tear me down I tended to blow them off (which of course they didn't get, they wanted some upset reaction). I think something big to realize is that everyone is different, there is no true normal so you need to be able to like yourself because of your differences.


message 28: by [deleted user] (new)

I've began cutting myself again. I usually can stop by drawing on my wrist, listening and making music but lately it has been worst. I haven't been able to stop it with little things like that, I just break down and grab a knife without a second thought.


message 29: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 51 comments That happened to me as well recently, idk why but I'm really into quotes and this one helped "there's many other things that make life bearable and you don't even have to use a knife" I hope that helps I'm sorry that happened to you


message 30: by [deleted user] (new)

Thanks


message 31: by Irene (new)

Irene (wingdesilverii) Halie wrote: "I've began cutting myself again. I usually can stop by drawing on my wrist, listening and making music but lately it has been worst. I haven't been able to stop it with little things like that, I j..."

Hey Halie! Sorry to hear your having a hard time managing things, let me know if there's anything I can do for you...In the meantime, if I wore a butterfly for you would that help (if you don't know what i'm referring to that's okay, I will explain).


message 32: by [deleted user] (new)

Thanks, that would be great.


message 33: by Irene (new)

Irene (wingdesilverii) Halie wrote: "Thanks, that would be great."

Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you! What's your favorite color?


message 34: by [deleted user] (new)

Navy blue


message 35: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 51 comments Ever have one of those days where your listening to your friends conversation and you realize how selfish they sound and you just feel extremely irritated with them. I'd rather have no friends


message 36: by Irene (new)

Irene (wingdesilverii) Halie wrote: "Navy blue"

Okay, you have a butterfly but my camera isn't working so it will be a little bit before I can get posted for you.


message 37: by Irene (new)

Irene (wingdesilverii) Amanda wrote: "Ever have one of those days where your listening to your friends conversation and you realize how selfish they sound and you just feel extremely irritated with them. I'd rather have no friends"

I think everyone has those days, where it seems like everything annoys you?


message 38: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 51 comments I guess so, but I also kind of realized how much I don't like my 'friends'


message 39: by Irene (new)

Irene (wingdesilverii) Amanda wrote: "I guess so, but I also kind of realized how much I don't like my 'friends'"

Well, everyone changes. I had friends in middle school that I thought would be my friends forever, but they turned into different people and I realized that they were not my friends anymore or they were people I didn't want to be friends with. So take a careful look, we all change :)


message 40: by gяαffιтι *яαωя яαωя*, Call me Music (new)

gяαffιтι *яαωя яαωя* qυєєи (myhandinyours) | 242 comments Mod
I thought about it tonight, then grabbed my pocket knife and now it's far out of reach. I have to get that out. I just have to put it some where. I've never self harmed but it crawled in my mind tonight


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