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2021 Challenge - Regular > 06 - A book with a gem, mineral, or rock in the title

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message 1: by L Y N N (new)

L Y N N (book_music_lvr) | 4835 comments Mod
Oh, my! Another one I've been meaning to read in FOREVER--The Moonstone! Yes!

And what will you be choosing to read for this one?

Listopia: /list/show/1...


message 3: by Jessica (new)

Jessica (soromantical) | 13 comments Am I missing something obvious - why is DUFF on the list?


message 4: by Drakeryn (new)

Drakeryn | 708 comments Hmm. I seem to have a lot of metals (brass, silver, a bunch of iron) but no minerals. Unless metals are minerals, but five minutes in google suggests they're not?


message 5: by Lauren (new)

Lauren Oertel | 764 comments Oh, I've been meaning to read these three for a while:
Gods of Jade and Shadow
It Is Wood, It Is Stone
House of Stone


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message 7: by Charlsa (new)

Charlsa (cjbookjunkie) | 195 comments Lynn wrote: "Oh, my! Another one I've been meaning to read in FOREVER--The Moonstone! Yes!

And what will you be choosing to read for this one?

Listopia: /list/show/15..."


The Moonstone is a fun read!


message 8: by Charlsa (new)

Charlsa (cjbookjunkie) | 195 comments Charlotte wrote: "Cutting for Stone or Spinning Silver"

Cutting for Stone is a great choice!


message 9: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ellsworth (sanukipityreads) | 160 comments You could argue that the moon is a rock


message 10: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 1748 comments I was struggling to come up with ideas until I remembered salt is a mineral. I also have Wranglestone if I don't feel like a salty book.


message 12: by Chrissi (new)

Chrissi (clewand84) | 237 comments I have The Mountains Sing on my TBR ... mountains are pretty much stone/rock and all sorts of minerals, if I interpret that loosely.


message 13: by Alexa (new)

Alexa (ohmygoshhhitslexa) | 17 comments I might go with Salt to the Sea for this prompt!


message 14: by Chrissy (new)

Chrissy | 387 comments Drakeryn wrote: "Hmm. I seem to have a lot of metals (brass, silver, a bunch of iron) but no minerals. Unless metals are minerals, but five minutes in google suggests they're not?"

Some metals are minerals, if you use the definition that a mineral is an inorganic natural material. So, silver could work, or gold, maybe iron in meteorite form?


message 15: by Drakeryn (new)

Drakeryn | 708 comments Georgia wrote: "Silver is the one I'm going for - according to the interwebs, it is rarely found as a native mineral but such a thing does exist! Which is good enough for me. :) "

Chrissy wrote: "Some metals are minerals, if you use the definition that a mineral is an inorganic natural material. So, silver could work, or gold, maybe iron in meteorite form?"

Thanks to both of you! I was just generally googling "are metals minerals" but now that I google those three specifically (gold, silver, iron) I see they all count. Iron seems mostly classified as a mineral for health and nutrition purposes.


message 16: by Kelly Sj (new)

Kelly Sj | 20 comments Snow and ice are minerals, if that helps anyone!


message 17: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 263 comments Drakeryn wrote: "Hmm. I seem to have a lot of metals (brass, silver, a bunch of iron) but no minerals. Unless metals are minerals, but five minutes in google suggests they're not?"

Iron is a mineral! I think some of those metals are found as minerals also.


message 18: by Brandon (new)

Brandon Harbeke | 696 comments From my TBR, I have Ruby Red by Kerstin Gier.

It is being used for my shortest number of pages, but others may want to use Onward: The Search for the Phoenix Gem: An In-Questigation by Steve Behling.


message 19: by Heather (new)

Heather (heatherbowman) | 882 comments Can I get an opinion from someone who has a better understanding of science than me? Would glass work for this prompt?


message 20: by Nadine in NY (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 9538 comments Mod
I'm a bit confused by metal vs mineral myself. It looks like if the metal is a pure element, like iron, then it counts as a mineral, but if the metal is a mixture, like steel, then it is not a mineral.


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message 22: by Drakeryn (new)

Drakeryn | 708 comments After more google research, here's what I've found:

"A mineral is a naturally occurring inorganic solid, with a definite chemical composition, and an ordered atomic arrangement." ()

So, for instance, you can find gold in nature (you can pan for gold, or you can find gold deposits in a mine). That means gold is a mineral. Likewise, you can find silver ore and iron ore in the wild.

But steel is only produced by people, so it's not a mineral.

Brass is apparently a weird edge case. "Brass is not an officially recognized mineral as yet, although it has been proposed. It is not the man-made brass that is under consideration, but specimens of naturally occurring crystals of a copper nickel alloy with a formula similar to what we know as brass."

Glass can appear in nature (in volcanoes and impact craters), but apparently it does not have an ordered atomic arrangement, so it does not count as a mineral. "It is best described as an "amorphous solid" meaning that its atoms are rigidly fixed, but not in an orderly pattern." ()

I'm learning so much about minerals today.


message 23: by Laura (new)

Laura | 14 comments Drakeryn wrote: "Hmm. I seem to have a lot of metals (brass, silver, a bunch of iron) but no minerals. Unless metals are minerals, but five minutes in google suggests they're not?"
Silver is a mineral. Brass is not. One helpful thing for metals, if it's on the periodic table it would count as a mineral.


message 24: by SadieReadsAgain (new)

SadieReadsAgain (sadiestartsagain) | 767 comments Is nickel a mineral?


message 25: by SadieReadsAgain (new)

SadieReadsAgain (sadiestartsagain) | 767 comments It's on the periodic table and is found naturally, so I think that means it is.


message 26: by Jennifer (last edited Dec 02, 2020 04:49AM) (new)

Jennifer T. (jent998) | 230 comments Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone
The Kingdom of copper
The Plague Stones

Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (Harry Potter, #1) by J.K. Rowling

The Kingdom of Copper (The Daevabad Trilogy, #2) by S.A. Chakraborty

The Plague Stones by James Brogden


message 27: by L Y N N (new)

L Y N N (book_music_lvr) | 4835 comments Mod
SadieReadsAgain wrote: "Is nickel a mineral?"

"Nickel is obtained from two main types of deposits from the mineral garnierite (Ni-silicate) in nickel-rich laterite formed by weathering of ultramafic rocks in tropical climates."

It is on the periodic table and I would count it. It is your challenge! :)


message 28: by Heather (new)

Heather (heatherbowman) | 882 comments Drakeryn wrote: "Glass can appear in nature (in volcanoes and impact craters), but apparently it does not have an ordered atomic arrangement, so it does not count as a mineral. "It is best described as an "amorphous solid" meaning that its atoms are rigidly fixed, but not in an orderly pattern." (source)"

So glass isn't an animal, vegetable, or mineral. Who knew there was a fourth choice this whole time! :D


message 29: by Denise (new)

Denise | 372 comments Heather wrote: "Can I get an opinion from someone who has a better understanding of science than me? Would glass work for this prompt?"

Glass is melted sand, and sand is composed of mineral grains.


message 30: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 1748 comments There are a lot of things that don't fall into animal, vegetable, mineral. Like where do you put a fruit or mushroom? I don't play that game, can you tell I would annoy everyone with my correctness?

Sand from the sea has a lot of organic material in it (shells, coral, etc), so it might be too much of a stretch for some people.


message 31: by Marie-Eve (new)

Marie-Eve Mailhot (indieegirll) | 138 comments Chrissi wrote: "I have The Mountains Sing on my TBR ... mountains are pretty much stone/rock and all sorts of minerals, if I interpret that loosely."

Definitely a good choice. i ADORE this book.


message 32: by Nadine in NY (last edited Dec 02, 2020 08:22AM) (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 9538 comments Mod
Drakeryn wrote: "Glass can appear in nature (in volcanoes and impact craters), but apparently it does not have an ordered atomic arrangement..."


I. HAD. NO. IDEA!!! Because glass is transparent and visually flawless, I always assumed the atoms were in an orderly crystalline structure, because why else would it be clear?


message 33: by Nadine in NY (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 9538 comments Mod
Lynn wrote: "Oh, my! Another one I've been meaning to read in FOREVER--The Moonstone! Yes!

And what will you be choosing to read for this one?

..."



The Moonstone is the VERY FIRST audiobook I ever listened to!!! Back when I was a little kid, my mom borrowed the cassettes from our library. I don't remember the story at all, but I remember being amazed that there was a book! on tape! I'd never heard of such a thing before!!


I guess my mom didn't love listening to a book, because we never did that again.


message 34: by Nadine in NY (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 9538 comments Mod
Why are people adding books with "snow" in the title to the Listopia?


message 35: by Kelly Sj (new)

Kelly Sj | 20 comments Snow as mineral
Because snow is composed of frozen water, or ice, it can also be classified as a mineral. A mineral is a naturally occurring homogeneous solid, inorganically formed, with a definite chemical composition and an ordered atomic arrangement. Ice is naturally occurring, given a temperature below 0 degrees Celsius (32 degrees Fahrenheit). It is homogenous (of one material), formed inorganically, and has an ordered atomic structure. Ice has a definite chemical composition (H20), with hydrogen and oxygen atoms bonding in a specific manner.
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message 36: by Chrissy (new)

Chrissy | 387 comments Laura wrote: "Drakeryn wrote: "Hmm. I seem to have a lot of metals (brass, silver, a bunch of iron) but no minerals. Unless metals are minerals, but five minutes in google suggests they're not?"
Silver is a mine..."


No, many metals on the periodic table are not found in their pure state in nature because they are too reactive. (Chemistry and geology teacher here.)


message 37: by Chrissy (new)

Chrissy | 387 comments Nadine wrote: "Why are people adding books with "snow" in the title to the Listopia?"

Ice and snow both fit the technical definition of a mineral! They just have a lower melting point than others.


message 38: by Chrissy (new)

Chrissy | 387 comments Nadine wrote: "Drakeryn wrote: "Glass can appear in nature (in volcanoes and impact craters), but apparently it does not have an ordered atomic arrangement..."


I. HAD. NO. IDEA!!! Because glass is transparent a..."


The crystalline version of silica is quartz!


message 39: by SadieReadsAgain (new)

SadieReadsAgain (sadiestartsagain) | 767 comments Lynn wrote: "SadieReadsAgain wrote: "Is nickel a mineral?"

"Nickel is obtained from two main types of deposits from the mineral garnierite (Ni-silicate) in nickel-rich laterite formed by weathering of ultramaf..."


Yeah, I'm going with it! I'm going to read The Nickel Boys


message 40: by Chrissi (new)

Chrissi (clewand84) | 237 comments Alexa wrote: "I might go with Salt to the Sea for this prompt!"

AMAZING book. I love all of her novels.


message 41: by Allison (last edited Dec 02, 2020 11:29AM) (new)

Allison Dogaer | 18 comments How about Golden Son I just finished Red Rising and wanting to continue the series.


message 42: by Erica (new)

Erica | 1221 comments This is a freebee prompt for me because a favourite series of mine uses gems in the titles and a new book is out this year.
Ruby Fever


message 43: by Nadine in NY (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 9538 comments Mod
Erica wrote: "This is a freebee prompt for me because a favourite series of mine uses gems in the titles and a new book is out this year.
Ruby Fever"



LOL I just spent a few minutes trying to figure out why it was a Frisbee prompt for you ... I think I need to take a break from the computers!


message 44: by Johanne (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 1301 comments I don't understand why you're adding silver and gold?
I had a layman's understanding that they aren't minerals and went on a little search. Gold (aurum) is not on this very long list of all approved minerals by the International Mineralogical Association.
The list is here:



message 45: by Nadine in NY (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 9538 comments Mod
Johanne wrote: "I don't understand why you're adding silver and gold?
I had a layman's understanding that they aren't minerals and went on a little search. Gold (aurum) is not on this very long list of all approve..."



Gold IS on that very long list! So is silver. They are listed alphabetically as "gold" and "silver" not as Au & Ag. Their status is "G" for "grandfathered." It's a fascinating list, thanks for sharing it!!


message 46: by Johanne (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 1301 comments Oh, thank you, Nadine! It is a very long list :)


message 47: by Michele (new)

Michele | 4 comments Alexa wrote: "I might go with Salt to the Sea for this prompt!"

I’m reading Salt to Sea as well


message 48: by Teri (new)

Teri (teria) | 1554 comments Salt doesn't come up on that list. Nor does sodium or rock salt.

I think I will stick with gems. At least I know what they are.


message 49: by Janet (new)

Janet (janetm2956) | 7 comments I haven't seen anyone discussing bone yet....something I found:

The one exception in a healthy human is bone mineral, such as in bones and teeth. Bone mineral is indeed an inorganic, crystalline, solid with a single chemical formula and therefore qualifies as a genuine mineral. The mineral in your bones is called hydroxyapatite and has the chemical formula Ca5(PO4)3(OH). Our bodies build bone mineral on the spot, so we don't have to swallow hydroxyapatite crystals.

So Dry Bones (Walt Longmire, #11) by Craig Johnson and The Bone Tree (Penn Cage #5) by Greg Iles should work.


message 50: by Drakeryn (new)

Drakeryn | 708 comments I wouldn't have thought of that! Good timing because I just got The Bone Shard Daughter on Black Friday sale.


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