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message 1: by Harry (new)

Harry Sneed (harrysneed) | 5 comments I've recently finished my book, "The Hoosier Girl" and it's in it's final stages waiting for Ingramspark to send me my ARCs. I hope to release it in March. Here's my question. Is is possible to create a "Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ Author" page before the book's actually out on Amazon? I want to start growing my reader fan base and would like to have an author page here, before the book becomes published.


message 2: by Gail (last edited Jan 23, 2021 01:32PM) (new)

Gail Meath (goodreadscomgail_meath) | 251 comments I'm not sure why not? And good luck.


message 3: by Harry (new)

Harry Sneed (harrysneed) | 5 comments Gail wrote: "I'm not sure why not? And good luck."

thanks, but as I was reading the instructions on how to accomplish this, it said something about going to Amazon and "Claiming" your book as you being the author. Thus, I'm stuck in the loophole.


message 4: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4434 comments Mod
Curious as to how one finds fans of a product that isn't out yet. Even with an author page who would be a fan of a book they haven't read?


message 5: by M.L. (new)

M.L. | 1129 comments It's been awhile since I got my author page but I think you have to wait until it's published. You could check with the Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ Librarian Group to be sure. If you do have to wait, you could publish a short story to get set up before your novel is out.


message 6: by Tomas, Wandering dreamer (new)

Tomas Grizzly | 759 comments Mod
It should be possible if the book is announced already in any form (such as if you have a webpage where you have the cover and release date mentioned). Then you add the book manually and can go through the steps needed to upgrade to an author account.

What I did was go through the process once I uploaded the book on Amazon. I set it up with a 2-week delay on release so I could test the conversion and formatting is okay, and to set-up Kindle X-ray, which revealed an issue with formatting, so I had those two weeks to re-convert the book file. And from the moment I uploaded the first version of the book, it was assigned an ASIN and I had quite an easy time getting upgraded to a GR Author profile.

Keep in mind, though, that unless you have a massive - and active - following, setting up a Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ author profile won't do that much.


message 7: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4434 comments Mod
Harry wrote: "My friends and family and my followers on my other social medias. People that follow my blog. Other members in Facebook groups that I'm a part of. There's lots of people who could potentially be a ..."

So, these are people that like you and aren't fans of the book, yet. Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ is meant to be a social catalogue. When I joined, I had to wait until my first work was published before I was granted author status. As far as I know it hasn't changed.

Having an author page here doesn't do a whole lot to move your success as an author. It's meant as a place for people to browse for and discuss existing books in order to find something new to read. You can look into it, but I doubt you will be able to set up an author page yet.


message 8: by B.A. (new)

B.A. A. Mealer | 975 comments Part of marketing a book is getting that fan base prior to publishing it. This is one thing most authors forget. You need to start getting a base before you finish that book. You may not get author status prior to having your book published on Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ, but you can start getting people interested in the book, start that email list, set a date for publishing and get your promotions set up and so forth. You can't wait until the book goes live. If you do, you are behind when that book goes live. That's something I wish I had know when I published my first two books.


message 9: by A. (new)

A. Nation (anation) | 27 comments You go to authorcentral with your kdp login and claim your book there.


message 10: by M.L. (new)

M.L. | 1129 comments Absolutely do something ahead of time: offer a chapter to your followers; set up a pre-order in Amazon and get your author page. I have seen several successful (like selling lots of books) launches, and they were by writers who had social media following and engagement ahead of time. I've also seen successful sellers from authors who did not. So, again depends on you know, what's already been said, the book, the genre, cover, etc.


message 11: by Harry (new)

Harry Sneed (harrysneed) | 5 comments Is there someway on here to "like" or acknowledge people's comments without creating a post five messages below? If not, thanks to everyone for their advice. I appreciate it.


message 12: by Tomas, Wandering dreamer (new)

Tomas Grizzly | 759 comments Mod
M.L. wrote: "they were by writers who had social media following and engagement ahead of time."

That's quite the problem for me, I guess. I never used FB (and I never will, if I have any say in it) nor any other cesspit of fake news, dubious ads, and such. Which makes it hard to be discovered...


message 13: by JAKe (new)

JAKe Hatmacher (jakehatmacher) | 87 comments Tomas, FB and Twitter has done very little for me. I believe it may have generated a few readers, but certainly not gobs. It's my understanding that someone or some entity at FB determines who will see your posts, so altho I have set to have my posts shown publicly, i.e. to all, they are not available to all. Maybe it helps them to encourage advertisers to pay for wider distribution of their posts/advertisements. If you're willing to pay a small fee you can get your post distributed to a targeted population picked by you.


message 14: by Dan (new)

Dan Assisi (danassisi) | 2 comments Why don't you set up a pre-order via IS? That way you would be able to claim your book on Amazon.


message 15: by Tomas, Wandering dreamer (new)

Tomas Grizzly | 759 comments Mod
JAKe wrote: "It's my understanding that someone or some entity at FB determines who will see your posts."

As far as I've heard, there's an algorithm that selects the people who are most likely to interact with your post, and there's some kind of cap on how many people will see it (which can be increased or bypassed with enough $$$). The "official" reason may be to prevent people from being flooded with more posts than they can realistically handle, but there's definitely money involved.


message 16: by B.A. (new)

B.A. A. Mealer | 975 comments You don't need facebook. Since their campaign of censure, I'm only on it for certain groups. I'll not support them with ads after this last round of negating over half the country. They have it set up so that you have to use ads or pay for wider distribution adn you know what, I'm not doing it!

I've found that you can do ads with different promotions companies who have large email lists which will work better than facebook anyway. Then there is bookbub, start making a presence on there. They are the premier marketing company for books. (hmm... I need to take my own advice on that one) Any way, you can do a preorder on Amazon and with other companies (I actually got preorder from B&N and Kobo through Draft2 Digital) so get busy in the email list which will net you more sales than FB ads as an unknown and be active in other groups on Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ. There is a new social network site called MeWe but I haven't checked far enough to see if they do ads or promotions.


message 17: by M.L. (new)

M.L. | 1129 comments MeWe is supposed to be good for conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers, so it may fit some genre somehow.


message 18: by A. (new)

A. Nation (anation) | 27 comments In FB, I post directly to my genre groups. Yes, I do get a few readers and some even distribute them to their fb pages.


message 19: by B.A. (new)

B.A. A. Mealer | 975 comments M.L. wrote: "MeWe is supposed to be good for conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers, so it may fit some genre somehow."

Well, I'm not on social media much due to the censorship of anyone who doesn't agree with the socialist/liberal point of view. We are supposed to have the right to express our opinions and points of view in our speech and writing. (I am a moderate Republican and was censored more than once for my GOP leanings) I just heard about MeWe. In my looking around on the platform, it was similar to FB and what poking around I did, I didn't see any conspiracy theories or radical rantings like there is on FB. And the cancel culture for those who don't agree with others wasn't there. What I did find was an author's section which could use some organizing but it had hundreds of author pages. I'm looking into their groups next and if they have any writing groups. At least it a place where you aren't going to get 'canceled' because you don't agree with the prevailing political party and your posts throttled because of your beliefs. I couldn't advertise a Christian book on FB because the ad had Christian in the keywords. With that said, I'll not give FB another dime of my money. Besides, FB, Instagram, and Twitter aren't where you are going to find the most readers or buyers unless you are willing to spend a few hundred or more dollars.


message 20: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4434 comments Mod
Gentle reminder that we don't discuss politics here. Thanks.


message 21: by JAKe (new)

JAKe Hatmacher (jakehatmacher) | 87 comments A Nation,
You say on FB you post directly to your genre groups. By that do you mean you target your FB ads to those that enjoy the genre you write in or do you mean something else?


message 22: by J. (new)

J. Clark (jclarkthewriter) | 13 comments Maybe the best course of action is older methods such as newspaper?


message 23: by Laura (new)

Laura Engelhardt | 73 comments Going back to the original post (sorry I missed it!)

I had this same problem with my first book -- without a book on sale, you can't set up your author pages on Amazon or Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ. In my case, I wanted to set up my Amazon "author page" so that I wouldn't have to do everything AFTER the book was released.

The way I got around this was to set up my ebook for pre-order when I finalized my cover. Links on Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ & Amazon Author Page are then unlocked because you have a book on sale (even though it isn't out quite yet).

BUT the danger is that you miss your release date ... If you set your release date too early & have to move it back, Amazon will punish you by not allowing you to set a book for "preorder" for a full year. Needless to say, I messed up & was in the dock for a year. But that didn't really matter, since it took me more than a year to finish my next book, so it was okay :)


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