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With eyes open to the world to come

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Dim White | 4 comments From the program of ´¡³¦Ã©±è³ó²¹±ô±ð, available

10. Consider the world to come in the sense of a reality contained right now and not in the sense of an ultimate happiness as inaccessible as it is loathsome.

I imagine most people I interact with have left the idea of utopia and revolution far behind them. We seem to agree that not only can we not get there from here, but that there is nothing good *there* anyway.

And yet, we still move, we still dream, we still imagine a world far different from this one and act with that image in mind. This in addition to all the things of this world which need destroying.

I'm interested in what those images are for people. Not of a new Eden (syndicalist, liberal, anarchist or otherwise), but of a world simply very different than the one we live in. I'm beginning to believe that there is something very important, and even sometimes very material, that happens just through this imagining. A lesson learned by reading some science fiction, as well as texts like bolo'bolo and Indigenous writers has left me with traces of that belief, and I'm yearning for more!


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aa (_yupa__) "We seem to agree that not only can we not get there from here, but that there is nothing good *there* anyway."

This is an interesting prompt. That said, I don't recognize this latter point. I genuinely believe that humanity is capable of living in a state of anarchy, and that doing so could be better than the way we live now. That said, I agree that we probably can't get from here to there. But who knows what "here" will look like in a few decades?

Regarding your last paragraph, I agree that imagining is important because I think that the ideal is something to move towards. We can picture social organization without the mediation of a state, and thus we try to make our relationships work right now as if there was no state mediating between us. We can imagine no prisons, and so we don't call the police, don't cooperate with courts, and sometimes participate in struggles against prison, including support for incarcerated friends and those we are in affinity with.


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