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Does your pen have better ideas than your brain?

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message 52: by Caila (new)

Caila | 11 comments Well my brain does most of the work, but sometimes my pen just takes over and starts writing words lol


message 53: by Ellen (new)

Ellen | 16 comments For me it depends. For the longest time I had this idea that I just couldn't get out. It was a great idea, but everytime I went to write it it wouldn't seem as great as it did in my head. In fact, I had almost the entire story planned out--until I would go to write it, then I couldn't even get past the first chapter. I kept giving up on it, then going back to it only to be disappointed again and again. I just couldn't get what was in my head down right.

Finally, I gave up trying to control my fingers and let them type what they wanted to. Which has worked pretty well. But every now and then, I plan out what needs to happen next. It frequently ends up a little different then what I had planned, but I seem to have found a--temporary--balance between the mind and the pen.


message 54: by Kritika (new)

Kritika (spidersilksnowflakes) Sometimes I have a feeling in my head or like a clip of a movie of what I want to happen, but I can't get the right words out. My pen is defective! (either that or my brain and I prefer defective pen to brain :D)
Other times I just write without stopping to think and then my pen has created something that my brain could never do...



message 55: by Amy (new)

Amy (kelairyy) | 137 comments Yeah definitely. I usually have a basic idea, but once I get to the computer, I usually find myself just sitting there typing because somehow, I already know what is going to happen. Doesn't seem to work with writing longhand. Probably because it is slower?


message 56: by Aysha (new)

Aysha (ayshabkhan) My brain gets a zing and so the thing starts out on track, then somehow my hands take over and all of a sudden something else takes shape and I have to write a new poem to use my original idea. :)
I was going to say that actually it's your fingers that do the thinking, but then I realized that really, I do write better with some pens than with others.
Strange.




message 57: by Ellen (new)

Ellen | 16 comments Saved By Grace wrote: "It used to be that whatever I wrote was great. Since then, not so much, and more like my brain has better ideas and then when my pencil starts writing it's all crap.

Plan, don't plan, combine stor..."


Been there. It sucks. Have you tried just free writing? Sit down with a pen, or even at a computer and just write everything that comes into your mind?

It doesn't have to make sense just write. Eventually you may find that instead of it not making sense you have the start of a story or something.

Its how I ended up starting the story I'm working on now. I started a free write and am now at 40,000 words--a record for me.

Good luck!

Ellen


message 58: by Ellen (new)

Ellen | 16 comments Saved By Grace wrote: "Ah ... I've done that. I've tried like every trick in the book. I have plenty of great, wonderful 'smashing' ideas but none of them work.

I also never understood how people think the whole 'write..."


I didn't understand it either. And in some ways still don't understand how it got me started. I had this idea for a story for a while and could never quite get it to work: the begining always seemed off. I sat down one day intent on writing that story and decided to just write-so I guess it wasn't quite a freewrite, I had the topic in my mind when I started writing.

Anyway thanks, and good luck to you as well--eventually the writer's block will break.

Ellen




message 59: by Aysha (new)

Aysha (ayshabkhan) Saved By Grace wrote: "Thanks. ^^"
Um, have you tried prompts? Like, one word prompts or photographs and you just write about whatever comes to mind when you see it. Like childhood memories, dreams, inside jokes, whatever. Works for me, sometimes...




message 60: by A.D. (new)

A.D. | 5 comments Back to the original question. I heard a new term at the last Norwescon called: Organic writing which was writing a story without any outlines. I noticed that many of the writer's whom wrote with outlines had a back ground in science. Some authors insisted that their character's control what the author would write.
As far as if my pen doing the work. I wish! It sure would be great to leave it to writing while I got other chores done. But, my universe is my own, even though I often give non-living objects life with my writing.


message 61: by Koori no hi (new)

Koori no hi Ephona (Öдå Nakamura ¾ÃÃÀ×Ó Kumiko) wrote: "Never. I always have to visualize my stories before I even write down anything. It's like making a movie before I write it. I usually map it all out before I even start, tweaking it along the way."

I'm like the exact opposite. I get an idea and play it out in my head about a hundred different ways before I finally write it down, but I never really plan anything other than that original idea

((P.S. how did you get the Kanji on your computer? I'm taking a Japanese class & need Hiragana to type, but can't figure out how to type them.))


message 62: by Veronica, What the neck!? (new)

Veronica (v_a_b) | 2889 comments Mod
Yesterday I kept feeling the urge to work on something, but I wasn't sure what. Sadly, I never did write anything.

But I wrote today after my physics quiz and it was wonderful. It was actually the continuation of a freewrite that I combined with two ideas. Except I might have to change the beginning--the freewrite part of it.

As for me, I usually have a general idea, and then as I write I have more ideas, and I store them away for later use in my brain... and then about half of those ideas change, because when I pull them out I think, "Well, that won't work now..." And so I come up with something different. That's how I killed my MCs dad one time...Even though I really didn't want to. I knew that it had to be done. She couldn't have any ties left to her home, or else she wouldn't run away. And escape was necessary. Anyone who's read Roses for June would understand what I'm talking about...or at least have a sense of what I'm referring to, I hope.


message 63: by Koori no hi (new)

Koori no hi I wish right about now that my pen had better ideas than my brain, because My brain has no ideas at this time. I have a story I really want to continue on too!!!


message 64: by Veronica, What the neck!? (new)

Veronica (v_a_b) | 2889 comments Mod
Ah, music can be great for inspiration, but people are even better. And puns! Oh, puns are wonderful! And just random stuff that people say.

I'm always imagining random hypothetical situations. I always have, and I can't help it! And usually when somebody says something, I get a visual to go with it, and sometimes that visual is really, really funny. And that leads me to the "what if" questions, which lead to a story.
And as far as people go, random ones on the street or in a store will do. If you let yourself wonder about them, you might just find yourself with a character on your hands.


message 65: by Allison (new)

Allison Trust me, Roni, you're not alone. I always imagine hypothetical situations, mostly of me and my friends, and occasionally of me and my crush (no, not like that, get your head out of the gutter) :). They generally go either way (good or bad), and I get some good lines out of it...


message 66: by Veronica, What the neck!? (new)

Veronica (v_a_b) | 2889 comments Mod
Ditto. with the friends thing. don't really have a crush though. But I do imagine what it would be like if I were dating any of my friends. Not that I want to go off and start making out with any of my friends... but my mind tends to wander. a lot. And half of them are in french. :D


message 67: by LeAnn (new)

LeAnn (heavenawesomeryahoocom) | 1 comments my stories come to be when im alone and there is no sound around me, im listening to music or reading a book. sometimes stories come to me by picking up a pen or marker and just start writing. Most things i write are poetry and horror stuff.


message 68: by April (new)

April (tifa_cloud) | 2 comments well, i can't really say that....
but mostly i come up with a brilliant idea but when i start writing it, i don't know how to continue it, but i'm still trying though...

sometimes i'm thinking of just giving up writing, i mean it must not be the thing for me....


message 69: by Brigid ? (new)

Brigid ? | 5857 comments Mod
HELLO EVERYONE. No one checks this group anymore ¡­ including me. Heh heh heh.


message 70: by [deleted user] (new)

Oh, god yes. I get an idea in my head all the time and when write it down, my pen completely changes it. Buuut it's usually for the better. My pen has a better imagination than I do....


message 71: by Kritika (new)

Kritika (spidersilksnowflakes) ? Brigid ? wrote: "HELLO EVERYONE. No one checks this group anymore ¡­ including me. Heh heh heh."

This group is rising back from the (almost) dead :)
YAY!


Maria [the clockwork creeps on useless lives] (mariachhile) | 10 comments My brain has pretty good ideas, but my pen helps it flow more into an actual story. My head does all the logistics, and then the pen makes it awesome.


message 73: by Brigid ? (new)

Brigid ? | 5857 comments Mod
Kritika wrote: "? Brigid ? wrote: "HELLO EVERYONE. No one checks this group anymore ¡­ including me. Heh heh heh."

This group is rising back from the (almost) dead :)
YAY!"


YAY!


message 74: by Brigid ? (new)

Brigid ? | 5857 comments Mod
?Maria (aka Chile)? wrote: "My brain has pretty good ideas, but my pen helps it flow more into an actual story. My head does all the logistics, and then the pen makes it awesome."

*nods*


message 75: by [deleted user] (new)

The brain conjures; the pen colors in this magic trick.


message 76: by Daisy (new)

Daisy | 1074 comments Yeah, my pen has better ideas than my brain but then it sends my character up a dumbwaiter in a SMALL LOG CABIN


message 77: by [deleted user] (new)

Can you put that another way?


message 78: by Daisy (new)

Daisy | 1074 comments It has better ideas, but then does stupid, illogical, things.


message 79: by Treyson (new)

Treyson (treysonlyon) | 36 comments It does, but only sometimes. I think that it is that way with everyone, or at least most people. I don't know, maybe I am wrong about that.


message 80: by Kritika (new)

Kritika (spidersilksnowflakes) I've come up with characters with my pen, and strange plot twists with my brain. So I guess I need both to come up with an interesting story :)


message 81: by Treyson (new)

Treyson (treysonlyon) | 36 comments Same here!


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