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My rating: 3 of 5 stars
A long, average sci fi adventure. Not worth the investment of my reading time.
My review here
Also listened to the audiobook of Alistair MacLean's Ice Station Zebra. This book is proof that you can write a novel that consists of nothing but action scenes. Four stars, no review.
Not sure what is next, but it will be something completely different from a long sci fi book.

My rating: 3 of 5 stars
A long, average sci fi adventure. Not worth the investment of my reading time."
I just started this the other day. Really slow going but I kinda dig it. Reminds me a little bit of my experience with Consider Phlebas.
Finished the Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny before that.

Seeing your comment on Sheepfarmer's Daughter reminded me that I intend a reread of Hambly's Windrose Chronicles starting with The Silent Tower. Now I know what I am reading next.


"First Law" was fun.


Which translation are you listening to?

Every single one of these was a group read of one kind or another. I pledge to be greedier next month.
Ugly Love by Colleen Hoover: I thought that I'd be able to avoid this ubiquitous author's books, but a favorite podcast (I'm on their Patreon) covered it, so here I am. I hated it. (review)
Ubik by Philip K. Dick: a strange one, to say the least. Took me a while to get into it. (review)
Entangled Life: How Fungi Make Our Worlds, Change Our Minds & Shape Our Futures by Merlin Sheldrake: the book itself is more down-to-earth (so to speak) than its title. An accessible introduction to fungi and their interactions with other forms of life. (review)

Read A Memory Called Empire and A Desolation Called Peace. Good but all the space related books are starting to blend together in my head. Speaker for the Dead is next so that is probably more space. After SFTD I may finish my Ray Bradbury collection next by reading Something Wicked This Way Comes.

I've now started Downbelow Station by CJ Cherryh, and I'm liking it a lot so far. This is my second book by Cherryh.
I'm also slowly listening to The Monsters We Defy by Leslye Penelope. It is kind of a historical fiction / fantasy / heist story. The narrator is very good, and I'm curious to know more about which parts are true to history. (It takes place in the 1920s in Washington DC.)

Translated by W.H.D. Rouse, read by Anthony Heald. It was supposed to be one of the best translations back when my wife bought it on CD.

My rating: 4 of 5 stars
One of the best 'crossing to a fantasy world' books and first in a really good series. Originally read this in the 80s and my friends were working in tech and defense companies. Seems pretty close to their experiences for the Terra side.
My review here
Continuing the series with The Silicon Mage.

I found a website where you can compare various translations, as I've never heard of Rouse. That's an interesting one... the differences are quite arresting. From the little passage that I've read, and this might just be my own bias coming through, but it feels like the translation is somewhat furtively airbrushed with Christianity, you know, like the unnecessary substitution of Zeus with God. Does that seem like a fair observation or am I reading too much into it?
I read Fagles' translation but would love to give Emily Wilson's one a go, as I really enjoyed her work on Odyssey and the Iliad certainly deserves another re-read.
On a different note, I love the fact that you share this audiobook with your wife. This is such a cool way to spend time together.


1500 pages, yikes! Maybe I'll tackle that once I'm back to my normal reading habits. Right now 1500 pages is too intimidating ;)

looks like it might be 4 books in an omnibus edition

We both have insomnia, so having something to share and relax to together is really nice.
As for Christian airbrushing I sure didn't notice anything. The long scenes in Olympus as the gods manipulate each other and interfere in the free will of both sides don't have any resemblance to Christianity in my mind. And all the heroes boast of being descended from gods - regardless of which one.
We had the written version by Fagle and my wife read it years ago. But that book went the way of many others during book purges for moving and retirement.


They're going to make a show based on this series, Charlton:




They're going to make a show based on this series, Charlton:
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That sounds amazing, there is so much of Midkimeia they could work with.

I can imagine. The closest I can get to this experience is if I read to my friend's two cats next time I look after them.
Economondos wrote: "As for Christian airbrushing I sure didn't notice anything."
Oh yeah, so, it's not so much the content but the language and style, like minimising the use of specific god names and instead using the generic term 'god'; or substituting an appeal to a specific deity with a prayer without its supposed recipient’s name. It tends to be more apparent in translations where there are wider cultural gaps, so I may well be reading too much into what little of the text I saw.


My rating: 4 of 5 stars
Really hard to put down even on this, my [insert large number] reread
My review here
Next up in the series is Dog Wizard.

It’s such a dense book with all the romanticism of the language and emoting. But on the other hand there is not a word I’d want to leave out especially for a close and in-depth reading like this. We are spending 4 weeks on it. We discussed the first “volume� today, which bears little resemblance to SF except for the fact it takes place in 2073 and further, the English monarchy has gone bye-bye and there are diigibles with wings with actual feathers!
I can’t wait to get to the apocalyptic part!

That is such a terrific book. Reading it a couple of years into the pandemic was so surreal, especially living in London and recognising the same blatant disregard that she described, especially around theatre attendances and other public venues.




They're going to make a show based on this series, Charlton:
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I'm really keen on this! I've just re-read the Kelewan trilogy recently, and it was just as good as it was when I read it years ago.


The ones I've read so far this year:
The Gods Themselves - Isaac Asimov
Childhoods End - Arthur C. Clarke
Hyperion - Dan Simmons
Neuromancer - William Gibson
Currently reading - Enders Game - Orson Scott Card
Planning to read next:
Fall of Hyperion - Dan Simmons
The left hand of darkness - Ursula Le Guin
Contact - Carl Sagan
Snow Crash - Neal Stephenson
This might change. Im really enjoying Enders game so might read the sequels next instead.

The ones I've read so far this year:
The Gods Themselves - Isaac Asimov
Childhoods End - Arthur..."
I feel like you and I are on a similar track. I recently read Hyperion, Neuromancer, and Ender's Game. I loved the Left Hand of Darkness and Contact which I read a while ago. You might consider Speaker for the Dead and The Dispossessed in addition to those on your list.


I didn't care for the Earthsea books as much as the Hainish Cycle books, for what that's worth. Your mileage may vary! :)

It saddens me that this book doesn't get as much attention as The Dispossessed or The Left Hand of Darkness. If it were up to me, I'd say read it first, as otherwise you'd risk not getting to it at all. Either way, don't let your experience of one put you off others, as all three of these books are vastly different in their worldbuilding, pace, and complexity, and are worth the effort just for the philosophical problems posed therein. Plus, they tie into so many other sci fi works that had followed since.


There is a whole history of other SF ripping off Le Guin. Star Trek is so notorious for that it's a running joke (sadly). When they tried to make up for it by naming a ship in the series after her, a number of people were like, "yeah, but it's not the same as actually giving the author credit due."


My rating: 4 of 5 stars
Ever read a good book that comes after a couple better ones in a series? 3.75/5
My review here
Completing the series with Stranger at the Wedding.

Not far in and definitely hooked!

Sheska wrote: "It saddens me that this book doesn't get as much attention as The Dispossessed or The Left Hand of ..."
Thats interesting, I didn't know that. I kinda had it in my mind that Word for World was a bit like Avatar. Definitely adding it to my reading list now.
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She's a fantastic sci-fi writer. :)