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message 1: by Gerald (new)

Gerald Fernandez-Mayfield (gtfernandezm) | 2 comments I assume we use the most canonical name, but if in author is known by multiple names but only published under one is it okay to list other names in the description?




message 2: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Sounds like the perfect place for them. :)

(I assume you mean the author description, not an individual book description, right?)


message 3: by Gerald (new)

Gerald Fernandez-Mayfield (gtfernandezm) | 2 comments Yep, thanks.


message 4: by Sandy (new)

Sandy (sandushinka) | 7 comments What if an author is published under multiple names (same guy), most of which are due to transliteration differences across languages?

Alaa al Aswany
Alaa al Aswani
ALAA EL ASWANY
Ala Aswani
Ala El Aswani

The LC authority record is Aswānī, ʻAlāʾ, 1957- (don't know if diacritics will come through). What should be considered the "authoritative" version?


This Is Not The Michael You're Looking For | 949 comments Names from other alphabets can be fairly complicated, particularly when they haven't become common/popular enough to have engendered a common transliteration.

I'd go with the first one; even the cover of the book under the second spelling actually has the name spelled as the first spelling, while the third appears to be the French transliteration.


message 6: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
I agree. I would merge them all to the first version, but note in the author's description that there are the other spellings. (I wouldn't use the diacritics, I think. Unless there already existed an author in GR listed that way.)


message 7: by Sandy (new)

Sandy (sandushinka) | 7 comments Thanks. Will do.


JG (Introverted Reader) | 487 comments I just found a seperate author listing for V.C. Andrews under Virginia C. Andrews. The librarian who created the Virginia C. Andrews profile left a note in the profile asking if it was okay to have two author profiles as long as she had both authors connected to the book. I sent her a message saying I didn't think so but she should ask here. I haven't heard back from her, so before I undo all her work--is it okay to have two profiles for one author like that?


message 9: by jenjn79 (new)

jenjn79 | 564 comments I know the librarian who wrote that...and she'll let you know for sure, but I believe the reasoning might be because of this: there were some books listed as Virginia C Andrews which she changed to V.C. Andrews...but another librarian didn't like that, and kept changing them back. This might be her way of compromising.


message 10: by rivka, Former Moderator (last edited Jul 19, 2008 09:58PM) (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Likely so. There's also another issue, IIRC: V.C. Andrews is actually sometimes Virginia, and sometimes her ghostwriter. Also, sometimes have the author listed one way and sometimes the other . . . and sometimes as Virginia Andrews, just to make things exciting.

Personally, I think this is a case that the LoC should have the final word: and that seems to be V.C. Andrews, interestingly enough. (It's actually Andrews, V.C. (Virginia C.), but that's just awkward.)


message 11: by jenjn79 (new)

jenjn79 | 564 comments I went and looked for the post in another group where the librarian in question told me about this...and it was what I thought. one librarian listing them one way, and another one changing them back the other way. Which made combining a problem because books weren't all under one author name - even editions of the same book because reissues changed names. So I think listing them the way she has made combining possible.

JG - she probably hasn't gotten back to you because I know she has been having a lot of computer/connection troubles.

Also, the librarian did check in here before working on this author (see this topic)


message 12: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Combining is only possible if the primary author is the same. Adding in another spelling as secondary doesn't make it any more possible to combine the editions.

The AKA feature would be really helpful . . .


message 13: by jenjn79 (new)

jenjn79 | 564 comments I think she originally started out just trying to change the names all to one (V.C. Andrews), but then someone was changing them back (to Virginia C. Andrews). So then she opted to put V.C. Andrews as the first author and Virginia C. Andrews as the 2nd...that way both names were represented, pleasing hopefully everyone, and all editions could be combined.


message 14: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
You can't please all the people all of the time, but you can try really hard? ;)

It does sound like a reasonable compromise.


JG (Introverted Reader) | 487 comments So the consensus is that it's okay and I should leave it alone? Thanks!


message 16: by Kathrynn (last edited Oct 18, 2008 08:10AM) (new)

Kathrynn | 187 comments Hi everyone,

Yes, I've been in computer "hell." I caution anyone about installing the new service pack (one) to Vista! Even an uninstall and restore will not peal it off. It would NOT allow me to connect to the Internet. Fixed now, I hope.

I did received a message from JG and just sent her a note back. Nice to communicate in lieu of just changing things. Thank you for the heads up JG. Would have been awhile before I found this discussion...

I'm flexible on this. I remember it well. The V.C. Andrews books were a disaster. I posed the question here in the group and that's why I went with trying to put them under both her names.

Her books were on the site in various names including VC and V. C. and Virginia and Virginia C.

I was trying to put them under:

Author #1: Virginia C. Andrews

and

Author #2: V.C. Andrews

and combine, but another librarian was undoing them about as fast as I was doing that so I stopped and decided to wait for the AKA feature to get up and running.

But, I'm flexible on this. Whatever is best for the site works for me.

;-)

(Hi Isis!!)V.C. Andrews


message 17: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
(Kathrynn, if you are running Zone Alarm, that is the usual program whose not-playing-well-with-Vista's-updates causes the no-internet-connection hell.)


message 18: by Kathrynn (new)

Kathrynn | 187 comments I "was" using PC Tools Internet Security and, apparently, it isn't playing nicely with Vista either.

But, my notebook has XP and it locked up the Internet, too. The fix was to remove PC Tools from both.


message 19: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
*eyes her (Vista-running) computer suspiciously, and prays it doesn't do anything untoward*


message 20: by Kathrynn (new)

Kathrynn | 187 comments Thank you, Rivka.


message 21: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
I meant mine, but I'll look at yours suspiciously too, if you think it'll help. ;)


message 22: by Lanica (new)

Lanica | 13 comments Here's another one.

http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/...

translated into

http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/...

He's an american author, but when translated the spelling has been altered.

I haven't changed anything because the spelling is correct if you go by the covers fo the books, but they are all by the same author.


message 23: by Cait (new)

Cait (tigercait) | 4988 comments Lanica, I would merge the authors. Ordinarily I'd recommend putting a note on R.A. Salvatore's profile saying that he's also listed as "R.A. Salvatores", but I think that may actually be a mistake in those covers -- the translation looks like German, I think, and none of the other German translations of his work have changed his name.


This Is Not The Michael You're Looking For | 949 comments I agree, that spelling is unique to that set of audio CDs. I suspect someone saw the title as "R.A. Salvatore's Dark Elf Saga..." (or whatever) but the apostrophe got dropped, thus adding the s to the end of his surname.


message 25: by Lanica (new)

Lanica | 13 comments *Slaps Head* Duh, that makes a lot of sense. I'll work under that premise. Thanks.


message 26: by Kyle (new)

Kyle (emperor799) | 9 comments Hi,

How do we handle ghostwriters versus the name that's actually on the cover when it comes to the by line in the database?

Is there a standard?


message 27: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Kyle wrote: "Is there a standard?"

Not really. It would depend on how official it is that the book has been ghostwritten.


message 28: by Carolyn (last edited Apr 30, 2010 09:15AM) (new)

Carolyn (seeford) | 573 comments What we have been doing is one of two things:

1) If it's a popular-name author series written by someone else entirely, we've been putting the true author in 1st position and the 'big-name' author in the 2nd position, with (Series Creator) in the description field.
An example would be the Net Force series, written by Steve Perry, and with his name on the cover, but with Tom Clancy's name prominently on the cover.

2) If it's ghost-written for a 'house name' owned by a publisher, we've been putting the house name in the first author position and the actual author name (if known) in the second position. In some cases the original [real:] author passes away, and the publisher keeps using only that name on the books (it becomes a house name), or makes it appear as if it is being co-written, if they mention the real author's name.

If it is solely a house name (was never a real person), we can also add text to the author description to mention that it's a 'house name' for the series, written by multiple authors.

An excellent example that was just had a lot of work done on it by a couple of librarians is the author Don Pendleton, who started some series' and passed away in 1995. Publisher is still going strong with those.

An example of a pure house name is Dick Stivers.

There were some discussions on this, sorry, can't find the thread right now, will try to add it here if I find it.


message 29: by Kyle (last edited Apr 30, 2010 09:30AM) (new)

Kyle (emperor799) | 9 comments Well, it's this http://www.goodreads.com/work/edition...

George Lucas's name is on the cover of even the most recent printings, but it's well known that Alan Dean Foster is the actual author, and he authored other books in the series that he does have cover credit for.


message 30: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Given that backs that up, adding Foster as secondary author (already done on some of the editions) seems reasonable.


message 31: by Lindig (new)

Lindig | 167 comments Hooray, info on what to do with "house names"! But where is the "author description" area that I can put this info in?

I have in mind "Terry Bonner" a house name for the Making of Australia series, for which CQ Yarbro wrote one of the books.


message 32: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
She means the "author role" field.


message 33: by Lindig (new)

Lindig | 167 comments Ah. So I can now put "house name" as an author role? Excellent!

Ooh, I just thought about the Stratemeyer syndicate and all those house names, like the authors of the Nancy Drew books, the Hardy Boys books, the Bobbsey Twins books, and many many more. Shudder.


message 34: by Laura (new)

Laura | 101 comments Carolyn wrote: "What we have been doing is one of two things:

1) If it's a popular-name author series written by someone else entirely, we've been putting the true author in 1st position and the 'big-name' auth..."


Carolyn, the thread on Don Pendleton was Author Don Pendleton 0ver 700 books help


message 35: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Add C.S. Lewis as primary author, demote the translated author to secondary, and then edit out the English characters from said secondary. And those are Farsi (Persian), according to Google.


message 36: by Carolyn (new)

Carolyn (seeford) | 573 comments Thanks for the link Laura!

Lindig, I haven't used the term 'house name' in the author role field; by author description, I meant the text field on an author's page. See Dick Stivers for an example of what I meant.

I don't know that we should add 'house name' to the author role field. Might be unnecessary clutter, that's why I just put it on the author's page.


message 37: by Lindig (new)

Lindig | 167 comments Okay. That's what I have done with the Yarbro "house name" when appropriate. Thanks.


message 38: by Brandon (new)

Brandon | 13 comments I had a question that seems to fit here. I've noticed a couple authors who have changed the name they publish under after publishing some books.

For example:
When Dean Koontz started out, he used his middle initial: Dean R. Koontz. This has made it so there are many books listed twice to be credited to both names.

How should I handle cases like these? Should I change the old name to the most recent one with a note in the profile listing the formerly used name?


message 39: by Carolyn (new)

Carolyn (seeford) | 573 comments For authors like this, we generally merge the authors into the most correct/specific version of the name - in this case it would be Dean R. Koontz. (Make sure that you don't lose any bio or photo data in either of the profiles, before you merge them, however!)
= )


message 40: by Joshlynn (new)

Joshlynn | 14 comments ^ I already made that mistake when merging the two Chekhov profiles ^

Should we use J.M. Synge or John Millington Synge?


message 41: by Paula (new)

Paula (paulaan) | 7014 comments What is his main name on Website and books

If in doubt the library of congress is the guide, how is he named there?


message 42: by Aladino (new)

Aladino | 13 comments Hello everybody.
Is there a standard way to deal with an author name's initials?
Today I merged two authors: "J.M. Dillard" http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/... with "J. M. Dillard".
Note the space betweem 'J.' and 'M.'.
Is there a correct way to write the author name in these cases? I would have chose the one with the space but the other one had more books in his profile.

Thank you for any help


message 43: by Melody (new)

Melody (runningtune) | 13300 comments Yes - the policy is no space between initials. J.M. Dillard is the correct listing.


message 44: by Aladino (new)

Aladino | 13 comments Thank you. I'll check other authors I have In my collection.


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