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message 451: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments Ethan wrote: "I'm going to read A Bridge At Arnhem by Charles Whiting A Bridge At Arnhem, about Operation MARKET GARDEN and the Battle of Arnhem, for my themed read. I've actually already start..."

Perfect month for it since it will be the 70th anniversary in September! Glad to hear you are enjoying the book so far.


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Ethan S. (ethanthejames) | 62 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "Ethan wrote: "I'm going to read A Bridge At Arnhem by Charles Whiting A Bridge At Arnhem, about Operation MARKET GARDEN and the Battle of Arnhem, for my themed read. I've actually..."

70th anniversary! Amazing! I had no idea. Seems like a timely read then.


message 453: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments I am going to start my September theme read today, a day early, sorry :)

I am going to start off with Martin Middlebrook's last book which he published in 1994 on the Battle of Arnhem:

Arnhem 1944 The Airborne Battle, 17 26 September by Martin Middlebrook by Martin Middlebrook

The discussion thread for the group read is now open:

/topic/show/...


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Manray9 | 4771 comments I am starting my Sept theme book a little early too --

Desperate Venture The Story of Operation Torch, the Allied Invasion of North Africa by Norman Gelb Desperate Venture: The Story of Operation Torch, the Allied Invasion of North Africa by Norman Gelb


message 455: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments Good book to start off with as well :)


message 456: by Chin Joo (new)

Chin Joo (quekcj) | 284 comments Ok, gave up on Taierzhuang. I've borrowed this book from the library: Shanghai 1937 Stalingrad on the Yangtze by Peter Harmsen Shanghai 1937: Stalingrad on the Yangtze. It doesn't look like a difficult book to read and is not very long. A good follow up to the Chiang Kai-shek biography that I just finished.


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Manray9 | 4771 comments Chin Joo wrote: "Ok, gave up on Taierzhuang. I've borrowed this book from the library: Shanghai 1937 Stalingrad on the Yangtze by Peter Harmsen Shanghai 1937: Stalingrad on the Yangtze. It does..."

It's on my TBR list.


message 458: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments Same :)


message 459: by Gerald (new)

Gerald Churchill | 435 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "Same :)"

I have read "Shanghai 1937," and I liked it.


message 460: by Bob (new)

Bob Weber | 104 comments Oh Chin Joo, I am ready to send your book as soon as I get your address.
I smile anxious to get a review from you.


message 461: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments Everybody got their books picked up for the November theme read?

I'm starting off with this one:

Stuka Attack! The Dive-Bombing Assault on England During the Battle of Britain by Andy Saunders by Andy Saunders


message 462: by Manray9 (last edited Oct 29, 2014 07:18PM) (new)

Manray9 | 4771 comments I'll start with:

Little Ship, Big War The Saga of DE343 by Edward P. Stafford Little Ship, Big War: The Saga of DE343 by Edward Stafford

about the Pacific War aboard USS ABERCROMBIE (DE-343), a JOHN C. BUTLER-class destroyer escort. The USN completed 87 ships of the class during WW II. ABERCROMBIE displaced 1,400 tons fully loaded and boasted two 5"/38 gun mounts, four 40mm AAA guns, ten 20mm AAA guns, three 21" torpedo tubes, a depth charge rack,and a hedgehog. She fought at Leyte Gulf, Okinawa and as a convoy escort. ABERCROMBIE was a sister ship to USS SAMUEL B. ROBERTS (DE-413), a ship, part of Taffy 3, that went down with all guns blazing in battle off Samar in October, 1944 -- arguably the most valiant action in the storied history of the U.S. Navy.


message 463: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments Sounds like an excellent selection for the theme read Manray9 - should be interesting to hear your snippets from the book.


message 465: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4771 comments Gerald wrote: "I will go with Vice Admiral B.B. Schofield's Stringbags in Action: The Attack on Taranto 1940 & the Loss of the Bismarck 1941."

That looks like a good one -- just added it to my TBR list.


message 466: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3810 comments I'm still undecided...too much choice.


message 467: by Ethan (last edited Oct 30, 2014 03:23PM) (new)

Ethan S. (ethanthejames) | 62 comments I would have participated but I don't have a book that matches the themed read. :-( Oh well, maybe I'll have a good one January.

By the way, I'm reading Vanished The Sixty-Year Search for the Missing Men of World War II by Wil S. Hylton Vanished: The Sixty-Year Search for the Missing Men of World War II. It's really good.


message 468: by Chin Joo (last edited Oct 31, 2014 04:16AM) (new)

Chin Joo (quekcj) | 284 comments I'll read this one.

Buffaloes Over Singapore RAF, Raaf, Rnzaf and Dutch Brester Fighters in Action Over Malaya and the East Indies 1941-1942 by Brian Cull Buffaloes Over Singapore: RAF, Raaf, Rnzaf and Dutch Brester Fighters in Action Over Malaya and the East Indies 1941-1942.

I saw this book on the shelf of a library a while ago. I've flipped through it once and know it's probably not a book on anyone's priority list. But well, it fits this month's theme.


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Manray9 | 4771 comments Chin Joo wrote: "I'll read this one.

Buffaloes Over Singapore RAF, Raaf, Rnzaf and Dutch Brester Fighters in Action Over Malaya and the East Indies 1941-1942 by Brian Cull [book:Buffaloes Over Singapore: RA..."


That looks of interest to me too, Chin Joo. I know the Finns had great success with Buffalos against the Soviets. It is on my TBR list.


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carl  theaker | 1555 comments Chin Joo wrote: "I'll read this one.

Buffaloes Over Singapore RAF, Raaf, Rnzaf and Dutch Brester Fighters in Action Over Malaya and the East Indies 1941-1942 by Brian Cull [book:Buffaloes Over Singapore: RA..."


i find the early war in the pacific interesting, full of resilience, quirks, and making do!


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Manray9 | 4771 comments Chin Joo wrote: "I'll read this one.

Buffaloes Over Singapore RAF, Raaf, Rnzaf and Dutch Brester Fighters in Action Over Malaya and the East Indies 1941-1942 by Brian Cull [book:Buffaloes Over Singapore: RA..."


Wikipedia reports the Finns flew Buffalos from 1940-45 and claimed a total of 936 Soviet aircraft destroyed versus losses of just 34. That's a 28:1 kill ratio, which sounds unbelievable, but is supported by documentation. These numbers were for the Winter War and the Continuation War combined.


message 472: by Gerald (new)

Gerald Churchill | 435 comments Manray9 wrote: "Chin Joo wrote: "I'll read this one.

Buffaloes Over Singapore RAF, Raaf, Rnzaf and Dutch Brester Fighters in Action Over Malaya and the East Indies 1941-1942 by Brian Cull [book:Buffaloes O..."


The Finns were outstanding pilots. They might have been the best fighter pilots in the war outside of Germany.


message 473: by Ethan (last edited Oct 31, 2014 09:09AM) (new)

Ethan S. (ethanthejames) | 62 comments You know what, the book I'm reading Vanished The Sixty-Year Search for the Missing Men of World War II by Wil S. Hylton is a lot about the B-24 bombers, so I guess it sort matches the themed read! Yay, I guess I actually AM participating.


message 474: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments The November theme page is now open for business and discussion :)


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Chin Joo (quekcj) | 284 comments Manray9 wrote: "Wikipedia reports the Finns flew Buffalos from 1940-45 and claimed a total of 936 Soviet aircraft destroyed versus losses of just 34...."

Phew... I almost put a wise-ass remark about the Buffaloes in my earlier post but thought better of it. It was triggered by another book

Hurricanes Over Singapore RAF, Rnzaf and Nei Fighters in Action Against the Japanese Over the Island and the Netherlands East Indies, 1942 by Brian Sortehaug Hurricanes Over Singapore: RAF, Rnzaf and Nei Fighters in Action Against the Japanese Over the Island and the Netherlands East Indies, 1942.


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Alex Gosman | 203 comments I have just bought The Bombing War by Richard Overy. If it is half as good as his previous books and why the Allies won WW2 it should be an excellent addition.

But just finishing a Biography on Trosky which fascinating - did not realise the degree to which he differed from lenin on most issues consistently. Always interesting tot hink how would the soviets have stood up to the Germans in 1941 if not for stalin - his industrialisation during the 30s (damn costs) and then stubborness in 41

alex


message 477: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments I got a copy of that book as well, when I actually get to read it who knows! If you read it soon then I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the book Alex.


message 478: by Alex (new)

Alex Gosman | 203 comments maybe a beach read at xmas Rick !!

cheers

alex


message 479: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments I was just thinking that since it will be the 70th anniversary of the "Battle of the Bulge" would anyone be interested in a theme read on any book or books on the subject for December 2014?


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Robert Hays (goodreadscomroberthays) | 275 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "I was just thinking that since it will be the 70th anniversary of the "Battle of the Bulge" would anyone be interested in a theme read on any book or books on the subject for December 2014?"

Yes.


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Manray9 | 4771 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "I was just thinking that since it will be the 70th anniversary of the "Battle of the Bulge" would anyone be interested in a theme read on any book or books on the subject for December 2014?"

Why not?


message 482: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments That enough for me :)

I'll open up a thread in the group read section and post the details.


message 483: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "I was just thinking that since it will be the 70th anniversary of the "Battle of the Bulge" would anyone be interested in a theme read on any book or books on the subject for December 2014?"

Read a book on the Battle of the Bulge...I supposed I could be convinced of doing that.


message 484: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments Go on, you know you want to :)


message 485: by Robert (new)

Robert Hays (goodreadscomroberthays) | 275 comments Dj wrote: "'Aussie Rick' wrote: "I was just thinking that since it will be the 70th anniversary of the "Battle of the Bulge" would anyone be interested in a theme read on any book or books on the subject for ..."

OK


message 486: by Lilo (new)

Lilo (liloh-p) | 586 comments All these books sound so interesting. Yet, I am limping behind with all my reading.


message 487: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments OK, theme reads for 2015, every second month starting in February. I have not set anything up yet and I'm open to suggestions.

If you would like to suggest a theme read please do but they will need to be general in nature so we don't make it too restrictive, e.g.: WW2 partisan or special forces operations, combat on the Eastern Front, etc.

So what WW2 topic would you like to read about as part of a group theme read for 2015?


message 488: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3810 comments Thanks Rick - I'll suggest three that might be runners if members think so and also to help get other people's ideas going:

Merchant Navies

Submarines

Amphibious landings


message 489: by Ethan (new)

Ethan S. (ethanthejames) | 62 comments Hey Rick! I have a few suggestions:

- Escape & Evasion

- Novels

- The Third Reich (Books written about or from the POV of Germany)

Hope these help! ;-)


message 490: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments All good suggestions, any more folks?


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Colin Heaton (colin1962) | 2011 comments POW experiences?


message 492: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments A good suggestion Colin.


message 493: by Colin (new)

Colin Heaton (colin1962) | 2011 comments My CO once was Special Forces Col. James Nicholas Rowe. His book Five Years to Freedom is required reading. He escaped Viet Cong captivity after more than 5 years, the only successful escape with exception to Dieter Dengler in Laos. As a result Rowe created SERE school.


message 494: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4771 comments Geevee wrote: "Thanks Rick - I'll suggest three that might be runners if members think so and also to help get other people's ideas going:

Merchant Navies

Submarines

Amphibious landings"


Geevee: I like those recs. I want to read --

Neptune The Allied Invasion of Europe and the D-Day Landings by Craig L. Symonds Neptune: The Allied Invasion of Europe and the D-Day Landings by Craig Symonds


message 495: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (last edited Dec 30, 2014 02:41PM) (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments So far I think we can go with these 'general' theme reads:


Escape/Evasion & POW's

Warfare on the Russian Front

Merchant Navies & Submarine warfare

WW2 Amphibious landings

Aspects of the 3rd Reich

Warfare in the Pacific (Land, air or sea)


How do they sound?


message 496: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3810 comments Good for me thank you.


message 497: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2270 comments Ditto


message 498: by Ethan (new)

Ethan S. (ethanthejames) | 62 comments Sounds great, Rick!


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A.L. Sowards | 500 comments They sound good!


message 500: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19800 comments OK, I'll get the set up in the new year, the first theme read month will be February. I think we will have a fun time discussing various books and aspects of these themes in 2015 :)


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