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message 1: by Gio (new)

Gio (giobannaschlitz) if you didn't know that hemingway wrote this story, would you think it was written today? and if so, would you like the story?


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Arthur | 21 comments If the story had more background, that is to say more descriptions then it will finally have to fill in the characters life more fully. But as you see it’s still a good idea that Jim is portrayed as if he acted poorly and even in an improper manner even if he was in our modern world of today’s society than in those backward traditional periods. Story here lays all rather conventional of its surroundings. It describes those post-modernist times as Hemingway draws a hard luck matron who is working at a boarder's house, she lived a simple and very plain existence, and she loves a blacksmith who she has not had contact with, Jim has come to take his trade all the way from Canada. Today we have different tables in homes, though this story may still be true of Jim and Liz, there may be different backgrounds today only which suggest the family initiates a family member into hunting (like my brother-in-law) and also is a way to explain if a woman may be taking interest in marring someone who hunts, if today it were likely to be interested in meeting someone that was a camper and hunting type.


message 3: by Brad (last edited Jan 14, 2009 06:49PM) (new)

Brad (judekyle) | 219 comments Mod
Gio wrote: "if you didn't know that hemingway wrote this story, would you think it was written today? and if so, would you like the story?"

I would love this story even if it was written today. I am pretty sure. But I really love how he captures another time. Even living where I do, where snow-ins are still commonplace, I think Hemingway really captured the remoteness of Michigan in the 20s (or before). Just the fact that the Canadian came all the way down to Michigan to live and work gives us a hint of that. I mean...driving down to small town Michigan would take someone an hour or two today. Someone could actually live in Canada and drive to work in Michigan now. But moving to Michigan in the 20s would have been a permanent move, and one that would have taken trains and crappy old trucks on dirt track roads to reach, which means there'd be no getting out in the winter.

Moreover, what Hemingway says about men and women, no matter what side we come down on, is relevant today, and maybe that, more than anything else (apart from the way he changed prose), is what earns Hemingway a deserved place as a "great" writer. His lasting relevance.


message 4: by Gary (new)

Gary | 400 comments Mod
brad, i totally agree with your last comments. i do think you could read hemingway today,and think this was written in 2010. he hits emotions still common to us today.


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