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Three Minutes to Doomsday: An Agent, a Traitor, and the Worst Espionage Breach in U.S. History
An intense cat-and-mouse game played between two brilliant men in the last days of the Cold War, this shocking insider’s story shows how a massive giveaway of secret war plans and nuclear secrets threatened America with annihilation.
In 1988 Joe Navarro, one of the youngest agents ever hired by the FBI, was dividing his time between SWAT assignments, flying air reconnaissance, and working counter-intelligence. But his real expertise was “reading� body language. He possessed an uncanny ability to glean the thoughts of those he interrogated.
So it was that, on a routine assignment to interview a “person of interest”—a former American soldier named Rod Ramsay—Navarro noticed his interviewee’s hand trembling slightly when he was asked about another soldier who had recently been arrested in Germany on suspicion of espionage. That thin lead was enough for the FBI agent to insist to his bosses that an investigation be opened.
What followed is unique in the annals of espionage detection—a two-year-long battle of wits. The dueling antagonists: an FBI agent who couldn’t overtly tip to his target that he suspected him of wrongdoing lest he clam up, and a traitor whose weakness was the enjoyment he derived from sparring with his inquisitor. Navarro’s job was made even more difficult by his adversary’s brilliance: not only did Ramsay possess an authentic photographic memory as well as the second highest IQ ever recorded by the US Army, he was bored by people who couldn’t match his erudition. To ensure that the information flow would continue, Navarro had to pre-choreograph every interview, becoming a chess master plotting twenty moves in advance.
And the backdrop to this mental tug of war was the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the very real possibility that its leaders, in a last bid to alter the course of history, might launch a devastating attack. If they did, they would have Ramsay to thank, because as Navarro would learn over the course of forty-two mind-bending interviews, Ramsay had, by his stunning intelligence giveaways, handed the Soviets the ability to utterly destroy the US.
The story of a determined hero who pushed himself to jaw-dropping levels of exhaustion and who rallied his team to expose undreamed of vulnerabilities in America’s defense, Three Minutes to Doomsday will leave the reader with disturbing thoughts of the risks the country takes even today with its most protected national secrets.
In 1988 Joe Navarro, one of the youngest agents ever hired by the FBI, was dividing his time between SWAT assignments, flying air reconnaissance, and working counter-intelligence. But his real expertise was “reading� body language. He possessed an uncanny ability to glean the thoughts of those he interrogated.
So it was that, on a routine assignment to interview a “person of interest”—a former American soldier named Rod Ramsay—Navarro noticed his interviewee’s hand trembling slightly when he was asked about another soldier who had recently been arrested in Germany on suspicion of espionage. That thin lead was enough for the FBI agent to insist to his bosses that an investigation be opened.
What followed is unique in the annals of espionage detection—a two-year-long battle of wits. The dueling antagonists: an FBI agent who couldn’t overtly tip to his target that he suspected him of wrongdoing lest he clam up, and a traitor whose weakness was the enjoyment he derived from sparring with his inquisitor. Navarro’s job was made even more difficult by his adversary’s brilliance: not only did Ramsay possess an authentic photographic memory as well as the second highest IQ ever recorded by the US Army, he was bored by people who couldn’t match his erudition. To ensure that the information flow would continue, Navarro had to pre-choreograph every interview, becoming a chess master plotting twenty moves in advance.
And the backdrop to this mental tug of war was the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the very real possibility that its leaders, in a last bid to alter the course of history, might launch a devastating attack. If they did, they would have Ramsay to thank, because as Navarro would learn over the course of forty-two mind-bending interviews, Ramsay had, by his stunning intelligence giveaways, handed the Soviets the ability to utterly destroy the US.
The story of a determined hero who pushed himself to jaw-dropping levels of exhaustion and who rallied his team to expose undreamed of vulnerabilities in America’s defense, Three Minutes to Doomsday will leave the reader with disturbing thoughts of the risks the country takes even today with its most protected national secrets.
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May 20, 2017
I have a lot of feelings about this book, most of which can be summed up by saying holy shit. I cannot stress enough to people that they need to read this book if they're at all interested in Cold War espionage and human behavioral patterns. Navarro weaves the events as effortlessly as a fiction novel, and you find yourself forgetting that this actually occurred.
Chilling, gripping and fantastically written. 5/5 stars.
Chilling, gripping and fantastically written. 5/5 stars.
April 19, 2017
“Nothing’s ever over till the fat lady sings.�
Trite? Yes. Abrasive? Absolutely! Sexist? All the damn time. Profane? Seriously profane, and not in a way that some of us might find amusing. And yet, this memoir has a strangely fascinating aspect as well. It combines two stories, the primary one an espionage case in which the author plays the primary role, and a secondary one, the implosion of the author’s personality and marriage. It’s not fun reading, but after a certain point, there’s no turning away from it either. Thanks go to Net Galley and Scribner for the DRC, which I received free of charge in exchange for an honest review.
Navarro is a hot-shot young FBI agent in 1988, and it is while conducting what is expected to be a fairly routine interview that he notes a “tell� from former US soldier Rod Ramsey. It becomes the basis of an espionage case that goes much deeper than anyone anticipated. Navarro uses his expertise in nonverbal communication to tell what Ramsey is feeling during the various phases of his interviews, and he also uses it to control and manipulate Ramsey into cooperating with the investigation. Ramsey is the one soul on this planet with fewer friends than Navarro, and so Navarro spends years making Ramsey believe that he himself is that sought-after friend, practically family. He does it so he can have this kid busted and send him away for a really long time.
Navarro knows a lot about reading and controlling others nonverbally, but he doesn’t know a thing about building a family life or about how to make friends, and it’s clear he knows this, yet he can’t help himself. He tells us that an agent he wants to assist him on the Ramsey case tells a supervisor that she would prefer to work with someone else, and specifically, with anyone, anyone, anyone else but him. A number of other people echo this sentiment, and yet his personality continues on its hell-bent-for-leather downhill trajectory.
While he continues his self-aggrandizement with a hearty side-serving of brazen braggadocio, Navarro recounts again and again how much he hates the office staff at work, little people that are getting in his way by attempting to do their jobs. Clearly they just don’t understand how very important he is, but that’s okay, because he is letting the world know now. Regarding the office manager that dares remind him of small requirements like changing the oil in his official vehicle, he uses a tired aphorism:
“Don’t try to teach a pig to sing. It annoys the pig and it wastes your time.�
He lets us know that he swore at, patronized, and berated her constantly, and lest we take his admissions as a sign of penitence, he also lets us know that he hates her still. He has changed her name for obvious legal reasons, but he hasn’t changed his obnoxious attitude or gained a speck of humility.
Add to this the fact that, though this espionage case is terrific book material, Navarro isn’t much of a writer. Clichés abound, and very basic principles of narrative writing are either never learned or disregarded. He starts chapters with lists, apparently too busy and important to transform these into paragraphs. I’m not all that sure he ever edited his work (because he might have noticed his overuse of parenthesis) and I’m not sure he permitted anyone else to do so either (because surely they would have come to his rescue).
Still, it’s an interesting story. Whereas someone else could no doubt do a finer job of writing this thing, it’s undeniably compelling. I recommend this memoir to those that enjoy espionage thrillers and true crime stories, but don’t give up the full sticker price. Read it for free or cheap, and save your serious dollars for serious writers.
Trite? Yes. Abrasive? Absolutely! Sexist? All the damn time. Profane? Seriously profane, and not in a way that some of us might find amusing. And yet, this memoir has a strangely fascinating aspect as well. It combines two stories, the primary one an espionage case in which the author plays the primary role, and a secondary one, the implosion of the author’s personality and marriage. It’s not fun reading, but after a certain point, there’s no turning away from it either. Thanks go to Net Galley and Scribner for the DRC, which I received free of charge in exchange for an honest review.
Navarro is a hot-shot young FBI agent in 1988, and it is while conducting what is expected to be a fairly routine interview that he notes a “tell� from former US soldier Rod Ramsey. It becomes the basis of an espionage case that goes much deeper than anyone anticipated. Navarro uses his expertise in nonverbal communication to tell what Ramsey is feeling during the various phases of his interviews, and he also uses it to control and manipulate Ramsey into cooperating with the investigation. Ramsey is the one soul on this planet with fewer friends than Navarro, and so Navarro spends years making Ramsey believe that he himself is that sought-after friend, practically family. He does it so he can have this kid busted and send him away for a really long time.
Navarro knows a lot about reading and controlling others nonverbally, but he doesn’t know a thing about building a family life or about how to make friends, and it’s clear he knows this, yet he can’t help himself. He tells us that an agent he wants to assist him on the Ramsey case tells a supervisor that she would prefer to work with someone else, and specifically, with anyone, anyone, anyone else but him. A number of other people echo this sentiment, and yet his personality continues on its hell-bent-for-leather downhill trajectory.
While he continues his self-aggrandizement with a hearty side-serving of brazen braggadocio, Navarro recounts again and again how much he hates the office staff at work, little people that are getting in his way by attempting to do their jobs. Clearly they just don’t understand how very important he is, but that’s okay, because he is letting the world know now. Regarding the office manager that dares remind him of small requirements like changing the oil in his official vehicle, he uses a tired aphorism:
“Don’t try to teach a pig to sing. It annoys the pig and it wastes your time.�
He lets us know that he swore at, patronized, and berated her constantly, and lest we take his admissions as a sign of penitence, he also lets us know that he hates her still. He has changed her name for obvious legal reasons, but he hasn’t changed his obnoxious attitude or gained a speck of humility.
Add to this the fact that, though this espionage case is terrific book material, Navarro isn’t much of a writer. Clichés abound, and very basic principles of narrative writing are either never learned or disregarded. He starts chapters with lists, apparently too busy and important to transform these into paragraphs. I’m not all that sure he ever edited his work (because he might have noticed his overuse of parenthesis) and I’m not sure he permitted anyone else to do so either (because surely they would have come to his rescue).
Still, it’s an interesting story. Whereas someone else could no doubt do a finer job of writing this thing, it’s undeniably compelling. I recommend this memoir to those that enjoy espionage thrillers and true crime stories, but don’t give up the full sticker price. Read it for free or cheap, and save your serious dollars for serious writers.
December 26, 2016
Copy courtesy of NetGalley
This book sounds more glorious than it is and should have been titled "Intense Focus on doing my job, so fuck the people around me"! This guy was an absent father and husband and just an all-round asshole, but he was really good at what he does for a living and was able to connect with bad guys in order to save his country; kudos for that.
The story dragged on too long, and totally disappointed.
This book sounds more glorious than it is and should have been titled "Intense Focus on doing my job, so fuck the people around me"! This guy was an absent father and husband and just an all-round asshole, but he was really good at what he does for a living and was able to connect with bad guys in order to save his country; kudos for that.
The story dragged on too long, and totally disappointed.
December 7, 2016
definitely knows about interrogation techniques, non-verbal communication, and how to make himself appear selfless, humble, and professionally brilliant. He may indeed be all these things, but much of this book just seems a little too self-aggrandising to my taste.
The story takes some time to get going, and although Navarro's style of writing is quite fluid, the first third of the book was quite a struggle for me. Once the enormity of the case started to become clear, however, I was hooked and was only momentarily distracted here and there by Navarro's accounts of his sacrifices with regard to his own health and his family.
Fans of true-crime accounts of espionage of the non-James Bond kind will most likely be well entertained by this terrifying true story that presents a lot of scary "what-ifs". Personally, however, I think I will stick to espionage fiction from now on.
[An ARC of this book was generously provided by the publisher through NetGalley]
The story takes some time to get going, and although Navarro's style of writing is quite fluid, the first third of the book was quite a struggle for me. Once the enormity of the case started to become clear, however, I was hooked and was only momentarily distracted here and there by Navarro's accounts of his sacrifices with regard to his own health and his family.
Fans of true-crime accounts of espionage of the non-James Bond kind will most likely be well entertained by this terrifying true story that presents a lot of scary "what-ifs". Personally, however, I think I will stick to espionage fiction from now on.
[An ARC of this book was generously provided by the publisher through NetGalley]
May 17, 2018
I received this from Netgalley in exchange for an honest review.
For a real-world true-to-life account written by the very FBI agent responsible for the arrest and conviction of the worst traitor in American history, this was surprisingly well-written and fraught with tension, ramping up with each turn of the page. I even went so far as to do a little research about Roderick Ramsay and Clyde Conrad, thinking that the things that they did -- selling state secrets to the Communist Bloc, including codes to the nuclear weapons deployed across Western Germany in the mid-80s -- couldn't possibly be true. Right?
Well, it's all true, and revealed here in incredible, horrifying detail. The words of the General Glenn K. Otis during Ramsay's sentencing reveal the depth and seriousness of the crime: "Ramsey and Conrad's acts of espionage left the West so vulnerable and so stripped of its own defensive capabilities that its defeat 'would have been assured' had the Soviets acted on their intelligence and launched an all-out war." Let that sink in for a few minutes. The defeat of the West, including the United States, would have been assured.
This is a fascinating study not only into the genius-level mind of Rod Ramsey, but the impact of the investigation had on the author, as well as the complete bureaucratic ineptness of our government, from FBI field offices interfering in each others investigations to a complete lack of communication between the Department of Justice, Department of State, FBI, CIA, National Security Agency and a host of others. As terrible as the crimes committed were, it is simple amazing that the US government still can't get its act together even after it has been shown in dozens of cases that this is, in fact, allowing further espionage events to happen undetected every day.
At any rate, this book is highly recommended.
For a real-world true-to-life account written by the very FBI agent responsible for the arrest and conviction of the worst traitor in American history, this was surprisingly well-written and fraught with tension, ramping up with each turn of the page. I even went so far as to do a little research about Roderick Ramsay and Clyde Conrad, thinking that the things that they did -- selling state secrets to the Communist Bloc, including codes to the nuclear weapons deployed across Western Germany in the mid-80s -- couldn't possibly be true. Right?
Well, it's all true, and revealed here in incredible, horrifying detail. The words of the General Glenn K. Otis during Ramsay's sentencing reveal the depth and seriousness of the crime: "Ramsey and Conrad's acts of espionage left the West so vulnerable and so stripped of its own defensive capabilities that its defeat 'would have been assured' had the Soviets acted on their intelligence and launched an all-out war." Let that sink in for a few minutes. The defeat of the West, including the United States, would have been assured.
This is a fascinating study not only into the genius-level mind of Rod Ramsey, but the impact of the investigation had on the author, as well as the complete bureaucratic ineptness of our government, from FBI field offices interfering in each others investigations to a complete lack of communication between the Department of Justice, Department of State, FBI, CIA, National Security Agency and a host of others. As terrible as the crimes committed were, it is simple amazing that the US government still can't get its act together even after it has been shown in dozens of cases that this is, in fact, allowing further espionage events to happen undetected every day.
At any rate, this book is highly recommended.
December 28, 2019
The book is about how Joe Navarro discovered about a major espionage through casual interviews. I appreciated how he did not rant on the frustration of the bureaucratic barriers. He found ways to work around the barriers to get the job done despite the frustrations.
This book is a must read.
I did give the book a 4 star due to prologue. It did not lure me into the book. Interest in the book for me started around chapter 3.
This book is a must read.
I did give the book a 4 star due to prologue. It did not lure me into the book. Interest in the book for me started around chapter 3.
December 21, 2022
Since the advent of the Second World War more than eighty years ago, spies have stripped the United States of a sobering volume of critical, top-secret information that threatens our security. Name a few names, and students of espionage will immediately recognize the spy scandals they caused. Julius Rosenberg. Jonathan Pollard. Robert Hanssen. Edward Snowden. But twoUS Army noncommissioned officers in Germany—Clyde Conrad and Roderick Ramsay—appear to have caused an even more serious espionage breach than any of them. Former FBI Special Agent Joe Navarro brings their case into the light of day in his fascinating chronicle of the case he mounted against Rod Ramsay, Three Minutes to Doomsday.
A SPY SCANDAL YOU’VE PROBABLY NEVER HEARD OF
Most of the events in Three Minutes to Doomsday took place in the 1980s, culminating in Rod Ramsay’s arrest in 1990. If his name, and Clyde Conrad’s, are unfamiliar to you, it seems likely that the damage they caused was so threatening to the Pentagon and the White House that its true nature was never fully revealed until years later. And to appreciate the seriousness of that threat, you need to understand the military strategy employed by the US and the Soviet Union on the boundary between East and West: the East German border.
THE COLD WAR FLASHPOINT BETWEEN EAST AND WEST
Throughout the Cold War, the American public’s attention focused on the divided city of Berlin, where US and Soviet troops—and spies—confronted each other face-to-face. But for military strategists on both sides of the Iron Curtain the true flashpoint fell to the south and west of the city in the state of Thuringia. There, as you can see on the map below, the broad, low-lying plane known as the Fulda Gap offered the Soviet Union an ideal opening for an invasion of the West spearheaded by an enormous army of tanks.
The vast superiority of the USSR in troop numbers and conventional arms makes the West’s position indefensible there in the absence of nuclear weapons. And the United States had acted accordingly, burying nuclear land mines along the East German border and stationing nuclear-armed missiles within striking distance of Soviet bases. If war had broken out, an exchange of nuclear weapons wouldn’t have been long in coming. Except that Clyde Conrad and Rod Ramsay intervened, fatally threatening the US’s ability to respond.
SHARING TOP-SECRET US MILITARY PLANS WITH THE EASTERN BLOC
For years, Clyde Conrad, and later Rod Ramsay, had daily access to the most secret American war plans at the Army’s 8th US Infantry Division in Bad Kreuznach, Germany. They used the opportunity to steal hundreds, perhaps thousands of pages of highly classified documents and sell them to the Eastern Bloc. They even rented a safe house nearby where investigators later found hundreds of pages of such material strewn about the floor. This was perhaps the most brazen theft of US military secrets ever uncovered—and the most serious by far. Because among the materials they sold to their Hungarian contact was detailed, step-by-step information of how the American military would respond to a Soviet invasion across the East German border.
But the damage was worse than that. In the process of revealing those contingency plans Clyde and Ramsay disclosed details of the elaborate series of codes that commanders would use in the event of war. The codes to release nuclear weapons. Knowing how the system worked, the Soviets could easily have shut it down. And those codes would work not just in Germany but worldwide. In other words, for as long as it took the Pentagon to design and adopt a new coding system governing its nuclear arsenal, the United States and its allies were powerless to respond to attack by the USSR.
A FASCINATING, FAST-PACED ACCOUNT OF THE FBI’S INVESTIGATION
Author Joe Navarro, a twenty-five-year veteran of the FBI, was in mid-career in the Bureau’s Counter-Intelligence unit when he was ordered to accompany a US Army investigator to interview Rod Ramsay. It was 1988. Ramsay was an after-thought, a known associate of Clyde Conrad, who had been arrested by German authorities on an espionage charge and would soon go to court there. The Army imagined Ramsay could furnish supporting evidence to strengthen the case against Conrad. But in that interview, Navarro observed tics and body language strongly suggesting to him that Ramsay knew much more about Conrad’s spying. He was broadcasting guilt to the author, who was recognized for his deep knowledge of nonverbal communication and body language. And from that point on, Navarro fought tooth and nail with his superiors to mount an investigation of Ramsay himself.
At first, with the grudging approval of his immediate boss, Navarro and a succession of female partners befriended Ramsay, gradually coaxing from him increasing signs that, indeed, he knew a great deal about Conrad’s activities—and had himself been deeply involved. Then higher-ups in Washington began trying to shut Navarro down because the case was to be run out of Washington, and he was stationed in Tampa (where Ramsay lived). When Navarro ignored their orders for months on end, they managed to persuade the Director of the FBI to warn him off for an entire year. But he persisted, and eventually resumed his investigation. The result, in 1990, was Ramsay’s thirty-six-year sentence for treason.
SO, WHY WAS ROD RAMSAY SUCH A THREAT TO US SECURITY?
Clyde Conrad’s activities lasted far longer and were far more extensive than Ramsay’s (though he received a sentence of just thirteen years from a German court). Why, then, did the FBI and the Pentagon eventually decide that Ramsay posed the bigger threat? The explanation lies in what Navarro learned about his suspect. According to a knowledgeable source in the Pentagon, Roderick Ramsay had received the second-highest IQ score ever recorded by the US Army. As Navarro learned early on, Ramsay was extremely clever, despite abundant evidence that he had made a mess of his life. But it wasn’t his intelligence alone that was the problem. For Ramsay possessed what, to all appearances, was an eidetic memory, which he demonstrated time and again to Navarro.
At the request of the US National Security Agency, Navarro conducted a test. He asked Ramsay to show what he remembered of specified pages on three representative documents the NSA had selected among those he and Conrad had stolen. Ramsay then proceeded to recite long passages from the multi-page US Army nuclear war plans the NSA had picked, noting the position on each page of the material he’d seen. The NSA confirmed he’d gotten every single word right.
So, Roderick Ramsay was a walking, talking encyclopedia of the most sensitive American military secrets. And since no one could be sure whether all the documents the pair stole had made their way to the Soviet Union, Ramsay could not ever be allowed to fall into the hands of Soviet (soon Russian) intelligence. (He is due to be released from prison in 2026. By that time, presumably, the information will no longer be valid.)
WHAT’S MISSING FROM THE AUTHOR’S ACCOUNT
From his first impression to the last, Joe Navarro depicts Rod Ramsay as a pathetic human being, a loser of the most obvious sort. He’s slovenly, gravitates from one dead-end job to another, and lives with his mother in a trailer. He is obviously living in abject poverty, forever short of cash. Yet Ramsay had witnessed the great wealth Clyde Conrad was amassing through his sale of American military secrets to the Eastern Bloc—large boxes full of Krugerrands and other gold coins and envelopes bursting with cash, tens of thousands of dollars at a time.
Yet there is no evidence that Ramsay ever received more than a few hundred dollars for collaborating with Conrad. Much less anything at all for continuing to supply his Hungarian contact with top-secret US Army plans after Conrad had moved on from Bad Kreuznach. Could a man with such demonstrably superior intelligence have been so stupid as not to demand a share of the loot? Or had he somehow stashed a fortune overseas, undiscovered by the FBI? Navarro doesn’t explain. He doesn’t even address those questions.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Joe Navarro is a leading expert on nonverbal communication and body language. He is a popular public speaker on the topic and has written thirteen books, one of them an international bestseller on body language. His study of that field was central to his success as an FBI agent, which is evident in his memoir of his biggest case, Three Minutes to Doomsday. Navarro was born in 1953 in Cuba and fled with his family after the Bay of Pigs invasion to Florida. He holds a bachelor’s degree in justice administration from Brigham Young University and a master’s in international relations from Slippery Rock University.
A SPY SCANDAL YOU’VE PROBABLY NEVER HEARD OF
Most of the events in Three Minutes to Doomsday took place in the 1980s, culminating in Rod Ramsay’s arrest in 1990. If his name, and Clyde Conrad’s, are unfamiliar to you, it seems likely that the damage they caused was so threatening to the Pentagon and the White House that its true nature was never fully revealed until years later. And to appreciate the seriousness of that threat, you need to understand the military strategy employed by the US and the Soviet Union on the boundary between East and West: the East German border.
THE COLD WAR FLASHPOINT BETWEEN EAST AND WEST
Throughout the Cold War, the American public’s attention focused on the divided city of Berlin, where US and Soviet troops—and spies—confronted each other face-to-face. But for military strategists on both sides of the Iron Curtain the true flashpoint fell to the south and west of the city in the state of Thuringia. There, as you can see on the map below, the broad, low-lying plane known as the Fulda Gap offered the Soviet Union an ideal opening for an invasion of the West spearheaded by an enormous army of tanks.
The vast superiority of the USSR in troop numbers and conventional arms makes the West’s position indefensible there in the absence of nuclear weapons. And the United States had acted accordingly, burying nuclear land mines along the East German border and stationing nuclear-armed missiles within striking distance of Soviet bases. If war had broken out, an exchange of nuclear weapons wouldn’t have been long in coming. Except that Clyde Conrad and Rod Ramsay intervened, fatally threatening the US’s ability to respond.
SHARING TOP-SECRET US MILITARY PLANS WITH THE EASTERN BLOC
For years, Clyde Conrad, and later Rod Ramsay, had daily access to the most secret American war plans at the Army’s 8th US Infantry Division in Bad Kreuznach, Germany. They used the opportunity to steal hundreds, perhaps thousands of pages of highly classified documents and sell them to the Eastern Bloc. They even rented a safe house nearby where investigators later found hundreds of pages of such material strewn about the floor. This was perhaps the most brazen theft of US military secrets ever uncovered—and the most serious by far. Because among the materials they sold to their Hungarian contact was detailed, step-by-step information of how the American military would respond to a Soviet invasion across the East German border.
But the damage was worse than that. In the process of revealing those contingency plans Clyde and Ramsay disclosed details of the elaborate series of codes that commanders would use in the event of war. The codes to release nuclear weapons. Knowing how the system worked, the Soviets could easily have shut it down. And those codes would work not just in Germany but worldwide. In other words, for as long as it took the Pentagon to design and adopt a new coding system governing its nuclear arsenal, the United States and its allies were powerless to respond to attack by the USSR.
A FASCINATING, FAST-PACED ACCOUNT OF THE FBI’S INVESTIGATION
Author Joe Navarro, a twenty-five-year veteran of the FBI, was in mid-career in the Bureau’s Counter-Intelligence unit when he was ordered to accompany a US Army investigator to interview Rod Ramsay. It was 1988. Ramsay was an after-thought, a known associate of Clyde Conrad, who had been arrested by German authorities on an espionage charge and would soon go to court there. The Army imagined Ramsay could furnish supporting evidence to strengthen the case against Conrad. But in that interview, Navarro observed tics and body language strongly suggesting to him that Ramsay knew much more about Conrad’s spying. He was broadcasting guilt to the author, who was recognized for his deep knowledge of nonverbal communication and body language. And from that point on, Navarro fought tooth and nail with his superiors to mount an investigation of Ramsay himself.
At first, with the grudging approval of his immediate boss, Navarro and a succession of female partners befriended Ramsay, gradually coaxing from him increasing signs that, indeed, he knew a great deal about Conrad’s activities—and had himself been deeply involved. Then higher-ups in Washington began trying to shut Navarro down because the case was to be run out of Washington, and he was stationed in Tampa (where Ramsay lived). When Navarro ignored their orders for months on end, they managed to persuade the Director of the FBI to warn him off for an entire year. But he persisted, and eventually resumed his investigation. The result, in 1990, was Ramsay’s thirty-six-year sentence for treason.
SO, WHY WAS ROD RAMSAY SUCH A THREAT TO US SECURITY?
Clyde Conrad’s activities lasted far longer and were far more extensive than Ramsay’s (though he received a sentence of just thirteen years from a German court). Why, then, did the FBI and the Pentagon eventually decide that Ramsay posed the bigger threat? The explanation lies in what Navarro learned about his suspect. According to a knowledgeable source in the Pentagon, Roderick Ramsay had received the second-highest IQ score ever recorded by the US Army. As Navarro learned early on, Ramsay was extremely clever, despite abundant evidence that he had made a mess of his life. But it wasn’t his intelligence alone that was the problem. For Ramsay possessed what, to all appearances, was an eidetic memory, which he demonstrated time and again to Navarro.
At the request of the US National Security Agency, Navarro conducted a test. He asked Ramsay to show what he remembered of specified pages on three representative documents the NSA had selected among those he and Conrad had stolen. Ramsay then proceeded to recite long passages from the multi-page US Army nuclear war plans the NSA had picked, noting the position on each page of the material he’d seen. The NSA confirmed he’d gotten every single word right.
So, Roderick Ramsay was a walking, talking encyclopedia of the most sensitive American military secrets. And since no one could be sure whether all the documents the pair stole had made their way to the Soviet Union, Ramsay could not ever be allowed to fall into the hands of Soviet (soon Russian) intelligence. (He is due to be released from prison in 2026. By that time, presumably, the information will no longer be valid.)
WHAT’S MISSING FROM THE AUTHOR’S ACCOUNT
From his first impression to the last, Joe Navarro depicts Rod Ramsay as a pathetic human being, a loser of the most obvious sort. He’s slovenly, gravitates from one dead-end job to another, and lives with his mother in a trailer. He is obviously living in abject poverty, forever short of cash. Yet Ramsay had witnessed the great wealth Clyde Conrad was amassing through his sale of American military secrets to the Eastern Bloc—large boxes full of Krugerrands and other gold coins and envelopes bursting with cash, tens of thousands of dollars at a time.
Yet there is no evidence that Ramsay ever received more than a few hundred dollars for collaborating with Conrad. Much less anything at all for continuing to supply his Hungarian contact with top-secret US Army plans after Conrad had moved on from Bad Kreuznach. Could a man with such demonstrably superior intelligence have been so stupid as not to demand a share of the loot? Or had he somehow stashed a fortune overseas, undiscovered by the FBI? Navarro doesn’t explain. He doesn’t even address those questions.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Joe Navarro is a leading expert on nonverbal communication and body language. He is a popular public speaker on the topic and has written thirteen books, one of them an international bestseller on body language. His study of that field was central to his success as an FBI agent, which is evident in his memoir of his biggest case, Three Minutes to Doomsday. Navarro was born in 1953 in Cuba and fled with his family after the Bay of Pigs invasion to Florida. He holds a bachelor’s degree in justice administration from Brigham Young University and a master’s in international relations from Slippery Rock University.
April 18, 2017
I won't bore you and regurgitate the synopsis for this one - the title says it all (but if you really want to know, go to my blog and it'll be posted there). So let's just get into it, shall we?
I'm not a big non-fiction reader, nor do I care for history, historical fact, the past, etc. etc... so why would I ever pick up this book then since they are both?? Because it's so damn intriguing! Behavioral analysis and profiling? Check! FBI agents? Check! Espionage? Check! Intellectual cat and mouse tug of war? CHECK! What's not to like? And to think that this is a TRUE story is fascinating... and utterly scary.
This book read like a novel. I had to repeatedly remind myself that this was real, the author actually lived what I was reading. To be in his mind and see how he choreographed and dueled with the highly intellectual Ramsay was extremely impressive and made me realize that's a job I would never be cut out for! Thank goodness for the likes of Mr. Navarro and the every day people in that field who have the cunning ability to help this country (for the greater good).
If you love spy novels, non-fiction and want a peek inside the mind of this brilliant man and read his story of the worst espionage breach in US history, then I highly suggest you pick this book up and give it a go.
I'm not a big non-fiction reader, nor do I care for history, historical fact, the past, etc. etc... so why would I ever pick up this book then since they are both?? Because it's so damn intriguing! Behavioral analysis and profiling? Check! FBI agents? Check! Espionage? Check! Intellectual cat and mouse tug of war? CHECK! What's not to like? And to think that this is a TRUE story is fascinating... and utterly scary.
This book read like a novel. I had to repeatedly remind myself that this was real, the author actually lived what I was reading. To be in his mind and see how he choreographed and dueled with the highly intellectual Ramsay was extremely impressive and made me realize that's a job I would never be cut out for! Thank goodness for the likes of Mr. Navarro and the every day people in that field who have the cunning ability to help this country (for the greater good).
If you love spy novels, non-fiction and want a peek inside the mind of this brilliant man and read his story of the worst espionage breach in US history, then I highly suggest you pick this book up and give it a go.
November 9, 2017
Nejsem úplně fanda špionážních thrillerů, ale tenhle mě vážně překvapil. Je totiž podle skutečných událostí a napsal ho člověk, který se na případu osobně podílel. Takže tu nenajdete přestřelky agentů a automobilové honičky, ale popis mravenčí práce, administrativy, rozhovorů a výslechů. Autor je navíc expertem na řeč těla a umí o tom psát poutavě, takže doporučuji.
April 25, 2025
Tento příběh mohu komentovat snad jen jedním slovem: wow.
Upřímně jsem to nečekala a bezpochyby o tom budu ještě hodně dlouho přemýšlet.
Trošičku občas ale rušily sem tam gramatické chyby, především v podobě interpunkce. Jsem si ale vědoma, že to je práce překladu, ne autora. Na druhou stranu cením bohatou slovní zásobu (překladu).
Upřímně jsem to nečekala a bezpochyby o tom budu ještě hodně dlouho přemýšlet.
Trošičku občas ale rušily sem tam gramatické chyby, především v podobě interpunkce. Jsem si ale vědoma, že to je práce překladu, ne autora. Na druhou stranu cením bohatou slovní zásobu (překladu).
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November 17, 2016Three Minutes to Doomsday by Joe Navarro
This story tells about the investigation of Joe Navarro into Rod Ramsey who sold private United States classified information to the Soviet Union. Joe Navarro was an FBI agent who worked in counter Intelligence out of the Tampa, Florida FBI field office. Starting in 1988 FBI agent Joe Navarro was dividing his time in SWAT, air reconnaissance and working counter intelligence. Joe is an expert at reading body language. That Joe Navarro was so good at reading body language and being able to tell when he was being lied to was what impressed me about reading th.is story.
Joe Navarro and another FBI agent have a meeting with Rod Ramsay, who was a former American soldier in Germany. Rod Ramsey was working with Clyde Conrad who both sold classified American military secrets while they were in Germany in the military. Navarro in that chance meeting with Rod Ramsey notices Ramsey twitch, when Clyde Conrad's name is mentioned. Clyde Conrad was already arrested in Germany for selling classified information. The story is about the fifty interviews Joe Navarro had with a female agent usually in a hotel room in Orlando, Florida with Rod Ramsay. Rod Ramsay had the second highest IQ in the United States military. Rod Ramsay has a big ego and begins to tell Joe Navarro over the course of fifty interviews how he and his former partner Clyde Conrad sold these classified secrets overseas.
This book was both easy and hard to understand because it involves all of the bureaucracy that FBI Agent Joe Navarro had to deal with while he was slowly but steadily getting information from Rod Ramsay. The NSA, the US Army Intelligence and Security Command and the former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency were all obstacles during Navarro's interviews with Rod Ramsay. Nobody seemed to want to acknowledge that there was a severe breach in US intelligence.
This book will find itself a great audience with anybody who has had any experience in the military or any government agency. At it's heart this book is the behind the scenes look at how one FBI agent doggedly pursued a Cold War Spy. Joe Navarro had to deal with endless red tape from the FBI's Washington Field office and the FBI headquarters.
Thank you to Net Galley, Joe Navarro and Scribner for providing me with my digital copy for a fair and honest review.
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This story tells about the investigation of Joe Navarro into Rod Ramsey who sold private United States classified information to the Soviet Union. Joe Navarro was an FBI agent who worked in counter Intelligence out of the Tampa, Florida FBI field office. Starting in 1988 FBI agent Joe Navarro was dividing his time in SWAT, air reconnaissance and working counter intelligence. Joe is an expert at reading body language. That Joe Navarro was so good at reading body language and being able to tell when he was being lied to was what impressed me about reading th.is story.
Joe Navarro and another FBI agent have a meeting with Rod Ramsay, who was a former American soldier in Germany. Rod Ramsey was working with Clyde Conrad who both sold classified American military secrets while they were in Germany in the military. Navarro in that chance meeting with Rod Ramsey notices Ramsey twitch, when Clyde Conrad's name is mentioned. Clyde Conrad was already arrested in Germany for selling classified information. The story is about the fifty interviews Joe Navarro had with a female agent usually in a hotel room in Orlando, Florida with Rod Ramsay. Rod Ramsay had the second highest IQ in the United States military. Rod Ramsay has a big ego and begins to tell Joe Navarro over the course of fifty interviews how he and his former partner Clyde Conrad sold these classified secrets overseas.
This book was both easy and hard to understand because it involves all of the bureaucracy that FBI Agent Joe Navarro had to deal with while he was slowly but steadily getting information from Rod Ramsay. The NSA, the US Army Intelligence and Security Command and the former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency were all obstacles during Navarro's interviews with Rod Ramsay. Nobody seemed to want to acknowledge that there was a severe breach in US intelligence.
This book will find itself a great audience with anybody who has had any experience in the military or any government agency. At it's heart this book is the behind the scenes look at how one FBI agent doggedly pursued a Cold War Spy. Joe Navarro had to deal with endless red tape from the FBI's Washington Field office and the FBI headquarters.
Thank you to Net Galley, Joe Navarro and Scribner for providing me with my digital copy for a fair and honest review.
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October 22, 2016
PRELIM REVIEW: I'm just now about a quarter of the way through this book, but I'm absolutely compelled to give a sneak preview to those considering this book. As someone who spent almost 30 years negotiating very high-dollar, highly-classified contracts with Prime government contractors, I can tell you that Navarro's method of interacting with a promising source of information (or, in my case, my opposition during negotiations) is 100% spot-on. I can't even count the number of times I used my "naïve, blue-eyed blonde with dimples" persona to first put my counterparts at ease before going for the jugular. It worked every time, and I consistently brought home higher negotiated profit margins than my bosses expected. I also nailed my target's outside interests by covertly checking out the decorations in their offices -- a sure-fire way to ascertain their hobbies and passions -- and starting discussions by asking questions about those interests. One counterpart complained to my boss, saying he hated to negotiate with me because he considered me a friend and wanted to give me whatever I asked for. So... Navarro's story rings so true on so many levels that it's just jaw-dropping, and his storytelling capabilities are riveting. Ah, were I able to trade professional histories with him! Amazing read; you won't find anything better on the art of espionage. My final review will focus more on the overall story itself, but for now: don't hesitate! Read this book if espionage at all tickles your curiosity. This is the "real deal", and deserves higher than just 5 stars...
October 14, 2016
This is my second book by this author and I quite enjoyed it. Joe has made a serious study out of nonverbal communication. To learn more about the "tells" of deceit, read another of his books because this isn't it. This book is the grueling year and some months he spends unraveling secrets from a guy named Rod Ramsey who worked with another guy named Clyde Conrad in West Germany during the Cold War during their time in the army. Ramsay is just a check mark on a list. Talk to him and move on. Simple. Except he cigarette shook on the subject of Conrad. On that nonverbal communication, Navarro launches into a year and a half that drove him to uncover the biggest breach of military secrets in the history of our country.
What I enjoyed about the book is Navarro himself. Perhaps with a two and a half decades of retrospect he is able to see where he may have been abrasive and detached enough (read: married to his job) that he was off putting. And irritating. And there was a reason She-Moody was reticent to work with him. I lived She-Moody and how she puts him in his place and is willing to shoot him in the hip if strays. The account of the interviews and explanations of the gravity of it are well written so that a lay person can get a pretty clear picture. Laced with humor, the book was easy to read and a little heartbreaking.
Warning that there F bombs. It's not rampant but is definitely present.
What I enjoyed about the book is Navarro himself. Perhaps with a two and a half decades of retrospect he is able to see where he may have been abrasive and detached enough (read: married to his job) that he was off putting. And irritating. And there was a reason She-Moody was reticent to work with him. I lived She-Moody and how she puts him in his place and is willing to shoot him in the hip if strays. The account of the interviews and explanations of the gravity of it are well written so that a lay person can get a pretty clear picture. Laced with humor, the book was easy to read and a little heartbreaking.
Warning that there F bombs. It's not rampant but is definitely present.
November 20, 2016
Thanks to Scribner and NetGalley for the ARC. This book didn't live up to my expectations, mainly due to my dislike of the narrator/main character. While I am highly appreciative of the work performed by Joe Navarro and his colleagues in the FBI, I found his lack of concern about his own behavior (even 25 years later) troubling or off putting. The times he talks about his behavior seem insincere to me and included only because he realized he should have learned something regarding his marriage, his family, his health, etc. my second complaint is that it took until near the end of the book to truly understand how big the case was and therefore for most of the book I didn't feel that invested in the outcome.
December 11, 2018
Went into this with high hopes after reading other spy stories but was disappointed to find this was written by a super cop who wanted to say how he saved the world by noticing a slight quiver. Had I wanted a Sherlock Holmes novel I would have picked that up, but here I was in the midst of a tale without any real depth. The author (supercop) failed to provide many details that would have fleshed out the crime, though we did get exorbitant details of their meals. I understand he was proud of his master interview skills, but to drop the story like a hot potato (dinner reference) when he was no longer the star of the case was the biggest crime of all. We got very few details of trial or any trace of aftermath. A book about a smug criminal, and an even more smug FBI gumshoe.
October 1, 2018
Tedious, and self aggrandizing. The story is weak and the Entertainment value is zero. Navarro's oversized ego makes the quarry out to have a genius level IQ. Instead this so called 'espionage spy' is really just a lonely underachieving sad sack loser living in a trailer. Years before, this weak individual goes along with his smarter more savvy overseas colleague's information leak forays, doing so not for ideology or monetary return but for the respect and friendship he seeks. The confession of this bit player is years late and the story is a dollar short.
December 9, 2021
Leider fand ich es an vielen Stellen sehr trocken und zu Fakten basiert. Gut fand ich den kleinen Einblick hinter dem FBI und in sein Privat Leben. Aber auch das war sehr distanziert beschrieben. Ich hatte das Gefühl ich lese eine FBI Fall Akte.
March 26, 2019
i have mixed feelings about this book. or more like, mixed feelings about how this book is presented. let me give you an excerpt of the blurr on goodreads: a traitor whose weakness was the enjoyment he derived from sparring with his inquisitor ... not only did Ramsay possess an authentic photographic memory as well as the second highest IQ ever recorded by the US Army, he was bored by people who couldn’t match his erudition.
so, no blame on me, but i thought this book would be about a battle of wits, a thriller-like retelling of brewing interrogations and tense situations. my take now i've finished the book: sort of.
joe navarro is an author specialised on body language. it's an element of his training vital to the uncovering and development of this case. i don't think joe navarro is that good at actually writing/describing personalities. to me, it felt like half of this spy's remorseless, psycopathic behaviour got a bit lost from the experience into the page. i believe him on it; i just couldn't really see it for myself.
as far as this book is concerned, the battle of wits and the tense interrogations never really happened. this apparent spy-master (or third-generation spy) was almost desperate to brag about his actions. like, it didn't seem to take too much for him to start spilling the beans on him comitting treason or giving away vital evidence. i was almost glad by the end that other people had also questioned what had happened: this guy has the second highest iq in military history (not that iq-testing is a perfect mark of brilliancy) and he just built his case for them without realising he was signing his confessions every time he opened his mouth?
there's a small debate on why this happened by the end of the book. my best guess is this poor fella was desperate to latch on to whatever father figure was available. that's how he ended up selling highly classificed state secrets and that's why he ended up telling all about it to an fbi agent. maybe my empathy levels are higher than the author but i felt sorry for him. i don't have his enduring patriotism, sorry about that.
regardless of this problem, i did enjoy this book. i got a bit emotional by the end, to be honest.
but me getting emotional over other people getting emotional isn't such a hardship.
still, i shoudl say this book's biggest asset is its choice of verb tense. unlike what i was expecting and the usual narrative non-fiction books i've read so far, this is written in the present tense. like journal entries occurring in real time. i'm not even sure they are factual entries because for what the author says, he didn't even have time to shower, where would he get the time to sit down and write what was happening? and if they are real-in-time, editing obviously occurred.
regardless of this, having everything told as it was happening gave the story the immediate sense of the political thriller i was expecting. it failed a bit in terms of presenting a credible villain (in my opinion) but the pacing was spot-on. case in point, i read the second half of this book in a single day (today) and i could have gone reading it for a bit longer.
so, no blame on me, but i thought this book would be about a battle of wits, a thriller-like retelling of brewing interrogations and tense situations. my take now i've finished the book: sort of.
joe navarro is an author specialised on body language. it's an element of his training vital to the uncovering and development of this case. i don't think joe navarro is that good at actually writing/describing personalities. to me, it felt like half of this spy's remorseless, psycopathic behaviour got a bit lost from the experience into the page. i believe him on it; i just couldn't really see it for myself.
as far as this book is concerned, the battle of wits and the tense interrogations never really happened. this apparent spy-master (or third-generation spy) was almost desperate to brag about his actions. like, it didn't seem to take too much for him to start spilling the beans on him comitting treason or giving away vital evidence. i was almost glad by the end that other people had also questioned what had happened: this guy has the second highest iq in military history (not that iq-testing is a perfect mark of brilliancy) and he just built his case for them without realising he was signing his confessions every time he opened his mouth?
there's a small debate on why this happened by the end of the book. my best guess is this poor fella was desperate to latch on to whatever father figure was available. that's how he ended up selling highly classificed state secrets and that's why he ended up telling all about it to an fbi agent. maybe my empathy levels are higher than the author but i felt sorry for him. i don't have his enduring patriotism, sorry about that.
regardless of this problem, i did enjoy this book. i got a bit emotional by the end, to be honest.
but me getting emotional over other people getting emotional isn't such a hardship.
still, i shoudl say this book's biggest asset is its choice of verb tense. unlike what i was expecting and the usual narrative non-fiction books i've read so far, this is written in the present tense. like journal entries occurring in real time. i'm not even sure they are factual entries because for what the author says, he didn't even have time to shower, where would he get the time to sit down and write what was happening? and if they are real-in-time, editing obviously occurred.
regardless of this, having everything told as it was happening gave the story the immediate sense of the political thriller i was expecting. it failed a bit in terms of presenting a credible villain (in my opinion) but the pacing was spot-on. case in point, i read the second half of this book in a single day (today) and i could have gone reading it for a bit longer.
December 15, 2022
Great book on an investigation into the terrifying breach of US nuclear protocols and NATO's Cold War contingency plans for an invasion of Europe by the Soviets.
As bad as the breach was, it was also horrifying to learn the US had mined parts of West Germany with satchel nukes and were willing to annihilate the entire country and millions of civilians if the Soviets advance couldn't be halted by conventional means. I shouldn't be surprised - empires don't care about casualties in their buffer states.
Many discoveries about the world, procedures and cultures of the FBI and NSA; counter-intelligence work and counter-intelligence investigations; and of course, Navarro's claim to fame, his techniques in interviewing suspects. Would recommend this book to anyone with an interest in the FBI, security investigations, espionage and counter-espionage.
As bad as the breach was, it was also horrifying to learn the US had mined parts of West Germany with satchel nukes and were willing to annihilate the entire country and millions of civilians if the Soviets advance couldn't be halted by conventional means. I shouldn't be surprised - empires don't care about casualties in their buffer states.
Many discoveries about the world, procedures and cultures of the FBI and NSA; counter-intelligence work and counter-intelligence investigations; and of course, Navarro's claim to fame, his techniques in interviewing suspects. Would recommend this book to anyone with an interest in the FBI, security investigations, espionage and counter-espionage.
January 9, 2020
Truly fascinating insight into the soul of an actual spy, instead of the inhumane villains that they are sometimes made out to be. The way Rod Ramsay was looking for approval of an older male friend, a character fault that brought on his downfall: first, in Germany, going along with his military superior´s schemes to sell information to the enemy´s side and then, back home, trusting an FBI agent so thoroughly as to tell him all about his illegal activities. On a personal level, it´s a sad story of a young man longing for human connection and being betrayed by the one that he trusts the most. From a broader perspective, it´s a cautionary tale of how easily a human mistakes can wreak havoc on the balance of international security.
September 10, 2020
Super interesting, and honestly extremely sad. Imagine if someone like Rod Ramsay had not had the bad turns of his childhood/youth. From this book, he could be a "cure cancer" guy. Instead he's a "drugs'n'hookers" guy who sold vital military intelligence because he was bored. Similarly, it's scary to think about what Joe Navarro could do, if he decided to use his skills for less lofty goals. In a way, it sounds a lot as though, had things been different, the two men could swap places.
As much as Rod Ramsay is a "bad guy" I feel deeply sorry not only for him, but for all the good he could've done but didn't because of factors unknown to me.
As much as Rod Ramsay is a "bad guy" I feel deeply sorry not only for him, but for all the good he could've done but didn't because of factors unknown to me.
October 27, 2020
As you may or may not have noticed, I'm a sucker for all manner of espionage tales - very much including the real-life ones. Involving a potentially devastating leak of top secret war plans and more in the late days of the Cold War, this sure is one hell of a story. If only its author didn't come across as such a self-aggrandizing, patronising and abrasive character. Evidently great at his job? Sure. Humble about it? Not even a little bit.
June 3, 2019
Compelling true story of Special Agent Navarro and his dedication to the truth. His behavioral analysis was groundbreaking for the time, and has influenced much of today's interrogation techniques. I look forward to seeing this on the big screen, as I read Clooney's production company bought the rights.
May 8, 2018
This was okay. I really don't have much to say about it.
August 14, 2019
Gave up on this half way through, sorry just not for me, normally love this sort of book but felt the repeated tracking down and interviewing of the same guy didn't appeal to me
January 15, 2020
The story with impressive scale. Nicely put and reads easily.
June 5, 2021
This sounded interesting enough. FBI, agents, cold War. Cat and mouse chase. But it missed the mark for me. I couldn't get interested enough to care about the story.
April 15, 2022
In Navarro's own words, "Honestly, you can't make this [stuff] up." (pg 246). If no one told you beforehand that this is a true story, you would say it is a masterclass work of spy fiction.
June 12, 2020
I LOVED this book so much! There was definitely some language in there, but it is SO worth your time. It is, mind-blowing, fascinating, & emotional. I felt like I was experiencing all the burdens the author was. This has to be one of my favorites books ever!
June 22, 2018
Yikes! Scary tale of how slippery National security can be. I continue to love Navarro’s work on the unsaid clues that people unconsciously reveal. More to learn from Navarro - genius in his own right.
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