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Bookshelf Nominations: ALTERNATIVE HISTORY [now online]
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I'm going to nominate Gloriana by Michael Moorcock.
The "What if?" - What if Queen Elizabeth 1 wasn't so much, "The Virgin Queen" as "The very slutty and debauched Queen who couldn't get no satisfaction"? Or something like that. And it's set 100 years after the real Elizabeth 1, and there are alternative worlds. It's complicated.
The "What if?" - What if Queen Elizabeth 1 wasn't so much, "The Virgin Queen" as "The very slutty and debauched Queen who couldn't get no satisfaction"? Or something like that. And it's set 100 years after the real Elizabeth 1, and there are alternative worlds. It's complicated.

What if 1952. Twelve years have passed since Britain surrendered to Nazi Germany.

Huh. I never thought of Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell as being Alternate History, but now that you mention it, I can see the argument....

Thats so strange. I just bought Son Of Heaven, which has a very similar premise, only the year is 2085, and it's set in the UK. And the Chinese arrive in airships. Really dying to read that....

I haven't read these but I own second book andit does look interesting.


That concept sounds fascinating. TBR'd!

It would definitely foment discussion if just for the topic. Matt Ruff is also one of the most underrated writers out there-- at least for sheer imagination.

Stephanie Trinity wrote: "The Years of Rice and Salt - what if instead of killing only ~30% of Europe's population, the Black Death killed 99%, leaving the rest of the world to develop along very different paths?"
This sounds really interesting. What did you think about it?
This sounds really interesting. What did you think about it?


I liked this book quite a lot, and I think Kim Stanley Robinson is one of the best authors writing in sf.
"The Man in the High Castle" by Phillip K. Dick.
What if - the Allies lost WW2, and the US was divided in half between Germany & Japan.
What if - the Allies lost WW2, and the US was divided in half between Germany & Japan.

What if - the Allies lost WW2, and the US was divided in half between Germany & Japan."
Already mentioned upthread -- it was the second book nominated.
Here's a nice little article from the Guardian by LloydShepherd which defines "Weird Histories" and lists some favourites.
I think we should probably add Never Let Me Go.
I think we should probably add Never Let Me Go.

The Years of Rice and Salt may belong here, but I was completely disappointed. Robinson never really tackled the question of "how is the world changed by not having the European Renaissance?" My review: "It's not that the book is badly written - it isn't - but I thought I was reading a "what-if-European-civilization-had-never-developed" novel, but really it seems completely irrelevant that the Europeans were wiped out in a plague. Instead, it's a series of vignettes about life in other parts of the world, that seem like they could have occurred with or without Europeans present."

Great! I'm a huge Pynchon fan, he is admittedly tough but his books are surprisingly gripping. I only read a Coover short story, , but it's one of the best ever :-)
Leo X. wrote: "Great! I'm a huge Pynchon fan, he is admittedly tough but his books are surprisingly gripping. I only read a Coover short story, The Babysitter, but it's one of the best ever :-) .."
You should start a discussion of this one in Short Reads.
You should start a discussion of this one in Short Reads.

Thanks for the idea, Whitney, I created a thread for it :-)
Books mentioned in this topic
The Public Burning (other topics)Mason & Dixon (other topics)
The Public Burning (other topics)
The Years of Rice and Salt (other topics)
The Impeachment of Abraham Lincoln (other topics)
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Authors mentioned in this topic
Thomas Pynchon (other topics)Kim Stanley Robinson (other topics)
C.J. Sansom (other topics)
Michael Moorcock (other topics)
Another definition I quite like is that Alternative History is basically a "what if....." For example, "What if Germany had won WWII?" or "What if JFK hadn't been shot?"
So what are our very favourite alternative history novels?
To make it interesting, try and tell us the "what if" premise too, (IF you can do it without revealing spoilers).