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General Chit-Chat > Second Banana Award - Who are the great supporting characters and side-kicks of fantasy?

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message 1: by Jefferson (new)

Jefferson Smith (jeffersonsmith) I have always loved trusty ol' Samwise Gamgee. In some ways, he can be seen as the true hero of LoTR, but even if you don't go that far, he is still one of the most likable and devoted supporting characters in all of fiction. But who are his successors? Who else has caught your attention lately as a strong and likable secondary character who adds richness, depth and heart to the story?


message 2: by carol. (new)

carol. Without doubt, the A-Through-L (Ell, the Wyvern) from The Girl Who Circumnavigated Fairyland in a Ship of Her Own Making.

"September, really. Which do you think is more likely? That some brute bull left my mother with egg and went off to sell lonemozers, or that she mated with a Library and had many loved and loving children? I mean, let us be realistic!"


message 3: by K.A. (new)

K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) I have to second Sam Gamgee. I always thought he got short-shrift. I'm also fond of Jean in "The Lies of Locke Lamora", without whom Locke would be dead many times over.


message 4: by Jefferson (new)

Jefferson Smith (jeffersonsmith) I liked Jean too, but I felt there was something missing, some aspect of depth to their relationship to make it more believable. Although, to be fair, Tolkien had many more pages with which to develop Sam's character and color in the relationship details.


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A.L. Butcher (alb2012) | 167 comments I like Sam too:)

And the Luggage, Captain Carrot and Nobby from Discworld. Nobby mainly because he is so funny:)


message 6: by Katey (new)

Katey Gotta second Jean and Locke. Their commitment to each other, especially in the second book, is great. I've always been fond of the relationship Between Jon Snow and Sam Tarly in ASOIAF. Though nowhere near as developed as Samwise and Frodo or Jean and Locke, I always loved their scenes.


°ä³óê³Ù³Ù´Ç (chtto) | 24 comments Dont you think that Jean (in the second book) is more of a co-main character and not a sidekick? His beautiful thing with Ezri...


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Nermin  (narminstaley) Wayne in the Alloy of Law by Brandon Sanderson.


message 9: by Kenneth (new)

Kenneth Geary (KagedBooks) (kagedbooks) I like TenSoon in the Mistborn series.


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Cheryl Landmark (clandmark) | 117 comments Smudge, the fire spider, from Jim C. Hines' Jig the Goblin series and Wolf, Torak's loyal companion in the Chronicles of Ancient Darkness series by Michelle Paver.


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Kristin Vincent (kristinkitty) Yeah, Sam was a great supporting character. I doubt Frodo could of done it without his support.

Aewulf from Dawn of the Knight is a cool side kick too.

Not fantasy, but Han could of very well been the main character. I mean he gets the girl ; )


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Cheryl Landmark (clandmark) | 117 comments Max from Jim Butcher's Codex Alera series.


message 13: by John (new)

John | 13 comments I would have to go with Bob The Skull from the Dresden Files.


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Cheryl Landmark (clandmark) | 117 comments John wrote: "I would have to go with Bob The Skull from the Dresden Files."

I love Bob! He is hilarious, especially with his penchant for trashy romance novels and risque innuendoes. :)


message 15: by Jefferson (new)

Jefferson Smith (jeffersonsmith) I'd forgotten about Bob. Thanks for the reminder.


message 16: by K.A. (new)

K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) Xetws wrote: "Dont you think that Jean (in the second book) is more of a co-main character and not a sidekick? His beautiful thing with Ezri..."

I definitely think he moved up a notch in "Red Seas Under Red Skies" - he had his own very involved storyline and his own personality came out more, including that he wasn't always willing to play second fiddle to Locke. Nice development.

Now, if Scott Lynch would just come out with the next one!!! My $$$ are waiting, right here...


°ä³óê³Ù³Ù´Ç (chtto) | 24 comments K.A. wrote: "Xetws wrote: "Dont you think that Jean (in the second book) is more of a co-main character and not a sidekick? His beautiful thing with Ezri..."

I definitely think he moved up a notch in "Red Seas..."


Excellent! my $$$ too!!! XD


message 18: by Bookwraiths (new)

Bookwraiths Samwise Gamgee will always be tops to me.

Ingold Inglorion from Barbara Hambly's Darwath series is a sword wielding wizard who would kick Gandalf's butt any day.

Saltheart Foamfollower and Lord Mhoram from the First Thomas Covenant series by Donaldson are just awesome characters who grow from book to book.


message 19: by Jefferson (new)

Jefferson Smith (jeffersonsmith) I quite like Saltheart, but found Lord Mhoram a bit less enjoyable. Ingold Inglorion was good too, and a bit more "real" than Gandalf. Good suggestions.


message 20: by DavidO (new)

DavidO (drgnangl) Tasslehoff Burrfoot probably


message 21: by Brian (new)

Brian Rathbone (brianrathbone) DavidO wrote: "Tasslehoff Burrfoot probably"

I second that vote.


message 22: by Katey (new)

Katey Yes, Jean did come into his own in the second book. I love how in that book they save each other's asses countless times!


message 23: by Adrian (new)

Adrian Rivas Second Tasslehoff Burrfoot


message 24: by John (new)

John | 13 comments Let's not forget G-gnome from Monster Hunter Vendetta


message 25: by S.J. (new)

S.J. Faerlind (sjfaerlind) I have to second Mat Cauthon from WoT and Wayne from Alloy of Law... those were both AMAZING characters. Perrin and Siuan Sanche from WoT were too. The other one I liked is Guenhwyvar from RA Salvatore's Drizzt books. Guen's a little different because she's a cat. Most non-human characters have to be extensively humanized to be supportive. Guen manages to achieve that while still staying very true to her cat-like nature. I always liked that about her.


message 26: by Jefferson (new)

Jefferson Smith (jeffersonsmith) I just re-read Robin Hobb's Farseer trilogy. I know many people think the Fool is a great sidekick, and I agree, he's a richly drawn and nuanced character, but for sheer sidekickish devotion, and supportiveness, my vote has to go to Nighteyes. There is truly a man's best friend.


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Sandra  (sleo) | 1913 comments Jefferson wrote: "I just re-read Robin Hobb's Farseer trilogy. I know many people think the Fool is a great sidekick, and I agree, he's a richly drawn and nuanced character, but for sheer sidekickish devotion, and s..."
Second! Second!


°ä³óê³Ù³Ù´Ç (chtto) | 24 comments K.A. wrote: "Xetws wrote: "Dont you think that Jean (in the second book) is more of a co-main character and not a sidekick? His beautiful thing with Ezri..."

I definitely think he moved up a notch in "Red Seas..."


http://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_...

!!!


message 29: by Sandra (new)

Sandra  (sleo) | 1913 comments Some of my favorite side kicks are in Janny Wurts Wars of Light and Shadow series - Dakar, Sulfin Evend, Asandir, Sethvir, Elaira.... just a few of the many vivid characters in this series.


message 30: by Joseph (new)

Joseph | 1651 comments Since I just reread The Morgaine Saga by C.J. Cherryh, I have to throw in a vote for Nhi Vanye, the guy who gets swept along with Morgaine on her quest.

What's particularly interesting is that even though Vanye is technically the sidekick, the story is told almost entirely from within his point of view -- we only see Morgaine as filtered through his perception, and never actually get inside her head.


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Sandra  (sleo) | 1913 comments Joseph wrote: "Since I just reread The Morgaine Saga by C.J. Cherryh, I have to throw in a vote for Nhi Vanye, the guy who gets swept along with Morgaine on her quest.

What's particularly interesting is that eve..."


Cherryh does that a lot. Have you read her Fortress series? AWESOME!


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Joseph | 1651 comments Sandra aka Sleo wrote: "Cherryh does that a lot. Have you read her Fortress series? AWESOME!"

I read the first four years ago. At some point I do have to go back and revisit them (and the fifth one). I also have to reread the Rusalka books now that she's selling revised versions on her website.


message 33: by K.A. (new)

K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) Xetws wrote: http://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_...

Well, hallelu!


message 34: by Jacinta (new)

Jacinta Hoare | 21 comments I have just finished the two audio book instalments of Mark Lawrence'sMark LawrenceBroken Empire series. Prince Jorg's sidekick Makin is a favourite of mine (pls excuse spelling if I am wrong, an audio book does not come with a glossary),

Makin is a flawed character but also has a shred of decency that Jorg simply does not possess. He puts up with Jorg's erratic behaviour that would have had them killed many times over if not for sheer luck ... and the authors need to finish the series with his main protagonist alive. :)


message 35: by Jute (last edited Mar 29, 2013 11:17AM) (new)

Jute Cheryl wrote: "Max from Jim Butcher's Codex Alera series."

I second this one! I really liked Max


message 36: by Cadiva (new)

Cadiva Brian wrote: "DavidO wrote: "Tasslehoff Burrfoot probably"

I second that vote."


And I'll third it :)


message 37: by M Todd (new)

M Todd Gallowglas (mgallowglas) | 12 comments Almost every buddy Dresden ever had, with specific props to Bob the Skull (as already stated), but also Karen Murphy and Molly.

Loiosh, the familiar, from Steven Brust's Vlad Taltosh books.

Krupp from Steven Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen

Silk from The Belgariad. (I like to pretend that The Malorian didn't happen, much like the Star Wars prequels and that fabled fourth Indiana Jones movie my kids keep trying to convince me actually happened.)


message 38: by Reading (new)

Reading Addict (bloodyjacko) | 6 comments Cadiva wrote: "Brian wrote: "DavidO wrote: "Tasslehoff Burrfoot probably"

I second that vote."

And I'll third it :)"


I'll fourth it!


message 39: by Jefferson (new)

Jefferson Smith (jeffersonsmith) Don't fourth it. It might thnap off. :-)


message 40: by [deleted user] (last edited May 16, 2013 12:46PM) (new)

Oliver DeBurrows-from "The Crimson Shadow".
And I'll 5th it for "Tas".


message 41: by A.L. (new)

A.L. Butcher (alb2012) | 167 comments Hey You wrote: "Cadiva wrote: "Brian wrote: "DavidO wrote: "Tasslehoff Burrfoot probably"

I second that vote."

And I'll third it :)"

I'll fourth it!"


Rofl.
Samwise Gamgee.
Alberto Malich
The Luggage:)


message 42: by K.A. (new)

K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) Who's Rofl?


message 43: by Judy (new)

Judy Goodwin Fizban. After Samwise Gamgee, I'd say he's the most memorable to me.


message 44: by Mark (new)

Mark K.A. wrote: "Who's Rofl?"

I think it's rolling on floor laughing.


message 45: by A.L. (new)

A.L. Butcher (alb2012) | 167 comments Took me ages to work out. Rolfmao is "Rolling on floor laughing my arse off.

Not that I spend too much time online:)


message 46: by K.A. (new)

K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) Yeah, I know. In this case it looked like a name in a list. I was joking.


message 47: by Thomas (new)

Thomas Young Nakor in Feists midkemia books. Always the best insight and wisdom and never takes himself, or others seriously.


message 48: by Justin (new)

Justin Davis (justindavis098) Wayne is a great choice from The Alloy Law

I also really like Mat from WOT

I would say why not Bean from Ender's game? He was a good character and even gets his own book!


message 49: by [deleted user] (new)

Let's go with Samwell Tarly from ASoIAF.


message 50: by Thomas (new)

Thomas Young Who from what? Tarly from what book?


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