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Wilfrid Sheed. Scored readers for his biographies and essays, but his own novels remain buried.
David Stacton. NYRB for one book, the rest smell of the soil.
Ruth Suckow. Painfully buried.
Allen Tate. Essays and bios. One buried novel.
Arthur Cheney Train. The original John Grisham. Better off buried?
Andrew Angarsky. One book. Large historical epic published in 1964. No info.

Give me a day, MJ.

Elise Cowen—the bulk of her poems were destroyed upon her death but fragments remain, some of which will be released next year.

Note that she currently has no individual goodreads page and searching for Elise Cowen will yield only one German lit rag.

from her wiki: "A volume of work from her only surviving notebook, titled Elise Cowen: Poems and Fragments, edited by Tony Trigilio, is forthcoming in 2014 from Ahsahta Press. Fourteen of Cowen’s shorter poems are included in the "Short Poem Dossier" of the 2012 issue of Court Green (edited by Trigilio and David Trinidad). These two publications represent the first time Cowen’s work has been reprinted with the authorization of the copyright owners, her estate, the Heirs of Elise Cowen."

, two samples of her work are at the bottom .

Rand wrote: "Elise Cowen"

Another beat poet eh? And this one has no books. What shall we do? If Tony's publishing her first book next year, I'm not quite sure that she's qualifiable.

Wilfrid Sheed. ADD please.
David Stacton. ADD please.
Ruth Suckow. ADD please, for the sake of every Iowan.
Allen Tate. ADD please.
Arthur Cheney Train. Any advocates?
Andrew Angarsky. Pretty BUR-IEeD, oh we're so pretty, ah so pretty; we're pretty BURIED!

Any questions?

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Any questions?"

Mainly why I have to ADD them, when you could do a much better job. And it's your group. And I am too lazy. (OK, I'll ADD one or two. But a little help would be welcomed).

MJ wrote: "Mainly why I have to ADD them, when you could do a much better job. And it's your group. And I am too lazy. (OK, I'll ADD one or two. But a little help would be welcomed). "

Which is a totally good question. And I'm too lazy to address it. But I'm really only interested in your ADD'ing that which you are ADvocating.

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "I'm really only interested in your ADD'ing that which you are ADvocating."

In that case, I will only ADD Wilfrid Sheed. The others I have no interest in reading and I suspect are not entirely germane to our cause.

MJ wrote: "In that case, I will only ADD Wilfrid Sheed. The others I have no interest in reading and I suspect are not entirely germane to our cause. "

ADD'd books which lack an ADvocate will simply continue to fester, even if they are within our lovely walls.

The SPADE lies in the READing, not in the ADD'ing.

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "ADD'd books which lack an ADvocate will simply continue to fester, even if they are within our lovely walls.

The SPADE lies in the READing, not in the ADD'ing."

I embrace this policy. Since all of the books in the threads have already received society's seal of disapproval I want to be sure that they have also received somebody's (some one of our bodies') seal of approval or at least a seal of genuine curiosity and non-rejection.

Ali wrote: "Fernando Arrabal?"

If you think he's any good, ADD please. Emphasis on novels and please what's in English? And then of course what oughta be in English. I see that his Baal was pub'd by Grove, which is good evidence.

Michael wrote: "Pamela Hansford Johnson (d. 1981), novelist and Proustian."

ADD please. Highlight today on Six Proust Reconstructions.

Arrabal is absolutely interesting. I know him more as a filmmaker, but anyone Panic Movement (along with one of my very favorites, almost completely buried in untranslated limbo barring The Tenant, Roland Topor).

I see that Tower is already on my to-reads and can be had cheap on abebooks. I'm on it.

A lazy Shovel-Wielder's entry sample ::

"Gil Orlovitz.
Two novels; 1967, 1970.
Collectively two ratings.
I think I heard someone say 'Joycean'.
Out of print."

I offer the sample for the lazy ARChivist as an alternative to the wiki c-n-p. We've included :::: author link, snap-shot of oeuvre, a "magic word" or something which intrigues me and justifies my time=interest, and the criteria which indicates her/is BURIED status. Say some words, but the important things is WHETHER? (buried) and WHY? (are you innerested). Include a wiki=link, too, but some entries here are nothing but, which leave unanswered the important question, WHY are YOU ADD'ing this author/ess??? ADD=VO=CAT, you cats!!!

[btw for my purposes "Joycean" is/is not a magic word depending upon who's wielding it; there is always that possibility the "Joycean"="I don't know what I'm talking about."]

Gordon Lish? The highest number of ratings for any one of his books is 54. Dalkey released one of his titles a couple of months ago.

Sorries. I've become interested in Gordon Lish ever since I began hearing M. Sarki talking about Gordon Lish. But Gordon Lish's books are too recent -- mostly post-1985, an arbitrary date -- and his books too popular, sick as that is to say, with 3 books gaining 50+ ratings :: I also see goodreads non-sense numbers, "790 ratings & 100 reviews" (from which subtract the numbers for that Flash Fiction volume). Do NOT add.

what about Ibn Sina Avicenna? he is not read much in translation, though perhaps anglo-speaking folks read him more via secondary sources.

all of the numbers for his catalogue are rather low. by way of contrast, Aquinas has many many more readers.

Rand wrote: "what about Ibn Sina Avicenna?"

He's not buried. People who need to know of him know very well of him. They also read Averroës ::

Aziz Nesin was a Turkish writer of leftist leanings and atheist persuasion, both of which got him into the hot cay under a rightist Nationalist regime and an overwhelmingly Muslim societay. Like a lot of scribblers under such circumstances his short stories are often veiled dissent and subversion. His range from a-little-too-pat allegory to invention on the Borgesian level. I discovered him cuz I had a Turkish bf once who had a whole bunch of books and I was like "Mmm, a reader!" then they turned out to just all be inherited from his dad who was the actual reader but I kept seein'im cuz he was superhot but ANYHOOO one of the authors on his shelf was this guy. On Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ there are oodles of reviews and ratings but almost all of them are in some unintelligible terrorist language. Of the two collections of his translated short stories I've read there are no reviews.

Laugh or Lament: Selected Short Stories

Turkish Stories from Four Decades

I should review them but I'm still dusting myself off from the storage-burrowing I did to literally UNBURY these books. Now, I didn't expect him to reach this plateu of your admittedly stringent screening process (pardon the John Waters reference) but does he pass muster?

Ali wrote: "Fernando Arrabal? Still alive, born 1932, with a career beginning in 1952, 387 ratings dispersed over eighty-eight works, but few read him in English. It is telling, I think, that the default editi..."

I didn't know Arrabal wrote novels! And Tower sounds groovy. I see in the reviews that he was friends with Jodorowski. How COOL is THAT?!

Gregsamsa wrote: "I didn't know Arrabal... "

Author discussions in appropriate threads please ::
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...

May I ADD is only for paper=work and other bureaucratic niceties.

Ok. Aziz Nesin?

Gregsamsa wrote: "Aziz Nesin was a Turkish writer ..."

Ah Jeebuz. I'll just take your and Ali's word for it that those rating numbers are entirely irrelevant for us Anglo=speakers.

ADD PLEASE!!!

[c-n-p your comment #183 into a new thread in the appropriate folder would be fine]

Also, Spade=Wielding duties here would consist of shoveling out what little might be available for the Anglo; in addition to the two linked.

James B. Hall

Garima wrote: "James B. Hall"

Us He Devours pub'd by New Directions.

ADD please.

Might he have some novels moldering in some corner? Or just the Short form?

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Garima wrote: "James B. Hall"

Us He Devours pub'd by New Directions.

ADD please.

Might he have some novels moldering in some corner? Or just the Short form?"

A is there but resting in some really obscure corner. Will include that in GR database.

Hall edited a pitifully damaged anthology I rescued from a thrift store which includes some buried-under-the-buried proto-revanents , such as Arkadij Averchenko Poor dude has 17 books, 0 reviews, 0 ratings. GR only has Russian editions but Mr. Innernets tells me there are translations.

My bad. They have translations on GR. Just under an alternate spelling of his name.

Gregsamsa wrote: "My bad. They have translations on GR. Just under an alternate spelling of his name."

Arkady Averchenko. Needs a lot of Librarian work. Arkadij Averchenko and he are the same person? Both names are BURIED.

On WorldCat I'm coming across Arkadii, Arkadyij, and Arkady, as well as Averchenco/ko. Same guy. Will do some librarianing after I check what my WC database time is lookin' like.

Hey how about Muhammad al-Qasim ibn Ali ibn Muhammad ibn Uthman al-Harir aka Al Hariri, a name I plucked out of the intro to Steven Moore's The Novel: An Alternative History: Beginnings to 1600 (from your profile) where he was schooling that stupid bitch Dale Peck. I've already requested that my librarians flounce out to the shops to buy it for me (and others, one hopes).

The text he's known for has six ratings, zero reviews.

Sounds right. ADD please.

Albert Murray

Here's the NYT obit:

Mala wrote: "Albert Murray"

Two books of his not quite with the BURIED ###'s (which are arbitrary and tend to change every third Wednesday) BUT do you notice how much more well known he ought to be than he is???? Ever hear of Jazz at Lincoln Center?

CSPAN Booknotes (video) ::

ADD please.

NR wrote:"Ever hear of Jazz at Lincoln Center?"

Sure!




The shocker will be when they allow Metal music there!

I'll answer my own question in advance. No, I may not add Giambattista Basile. But he's nearly buried, and worth a mention. Which raises the unanswered question: howzaboutsa "nearly buried" thread for the marginally obscure and worth recommendation?

Anyway, this guy wrote awesome fairy tales that inspired and were rewritten by the Grimm Brothers, who did a far less awesome job. Even crappy stories, like Rapunzel, who no one in their right mind would want to read, are actually good stories as told by Basile, whose style could perhaps be described as shameless excess. I came across his writings when following up on some leads from Calvino's Why Read the Classics? Some may not be entirely pleased by what seems to be a leitmotif: beauty is good, ugliness is evil, evil deserves death or degradation, and black people are inherently ugly. But, you know, renaissance Italian racist children's literature is quite entertaining. Plus you can get a genuinely good English version of Pentamerone for free from Amazon of all places.

I guess I'm repeating a bit of what I said in my earlier review. So, sue me.

Zadignose wrote: "No, I may not add Giambattista Basile. But he's nearly buried, and worth a mention."

Your argument against the FACTS, sir, are a bit confusing. Basile is rather quite worm-ridden (unless goodreads is once again providing garbage-data, which is likely). But please to note also his Giambattista Basile's the Tale of Tales, or Entertainment for Little Ones (or is that the same, but a prettier edition?) and use its Italian title, Lo Cunto De Li Cunti cuz it makes me chuckle. Also note please that he's been compared to ETA Hoffmann--cf, the amazon look=inside for the book=link I've provided for a bunch of editorial previewing.

ADD please.

Douglas Woolf

Garima wrote: "Douglas Woolf
"

Yes please. Yes please. I see "Dalkey."

Nathan, I have not been visiting this Group lately, so I have forgotten the criteria for writers who have been barely translated. I am soon finishing and writing a review on a book by Miguel Delibes. What do you suggest?. Do you want to wait until I finish it and post my review?

Delibes is well known in Spain and to a certain extent in the other Spanish-speaking countries. Very little in the Angloworld.

Kalliope wrote: " I am soon finishing and writing a review on a book by Miguel Delibes. What do you suggest?."

His ratings look pretty HUGE so I'm thinking that even if he has little presence in the anglo=world (yet!) he wouldn't qualify. But afore a final decision, I'll be interested in your review -- link it in this thread (please!) and if you can dig up what's available at the moment in English. Too, if you can cite 2-3 of his major works.

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "

His ratings look pretty HUGE so I'm thinking that even if he has little presence in t..."

OK.. thank you... yes, he is very well known in the Spanish speaking world.. I just do not understand why his books have not crossed the language borders.

Kalliope wrote: "I just do not understand why his books have not crossed the language borders. "

We anglos tend to be isolationists. The portion of the book market which consists of translations is like 2-3%.

Anyone else got anything on Delibes?

Nathan "N.R."We anglos tend to be isolationists. The portion of the book market which consists of translations ..."

Really, that low?.. what do you mean in your last sentence?

One of his books which is translated (and I can understand why) and which I read too long ago to be able to write a review is The Heretic: A Novel of the Inquisition. The one I am reading now has been translated into Italian.

Kalliope wrote: "Really, that low?.. what do you mean in your last sentence?"

The number needs fact-checking, but yeah it's pretty awfully low. [last sentence ;; just soliciting knowledge from others as well]

Thanks for the link to The Heretic. I see only two reviews for that English edition.

Nathan, I have posted my review on one of Delibes's books.

This one is translated only into Italian, as far as I can tell.

http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...

Kalliope wrote: "Nathan, I have posted my review on one of Delibes's books.
This one is translated only into Italian, as far as I can tell."

I see that we've already ADD'd Pío Baroja on the We're-too-Anglo principle and he's got booooku ratings ; but slim representation in English. But he's also OLD. Delibes appears to have been writing for 60+ years(?) and is nearly non-existent Anglo'ly.

ADD please. [and if you know of non-English-existing masterpieces of his, that would be something for the Please! tranSLATE BOOK threads.]

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Kalliope wrote: "Nathan, I have posted my review on one of Delibes's books.
This one is translated only into Italian, as far as I can tell."

I see that we've already ADD'd Pío Baroja on the We're-..."

There is La sombra del ciprés es alargada, which I should read and review... It was written much before the Woman in Red, it was one of his first works, written during the darkest times of the Dictatorship. It has been put into film by a Mexican director...

Will include Delibes as you suggest.

This is a wonderful group you have created Nathan. I should be more involved, but I feel sometimes so overwhelmed with the already well-known authors...!!!

Kalliope wrote: "This is a wonderful group you have created Nathan. I should be more involved, but I feel sometimes so overwhelmed with the already well-known authors...!!!"

Thanks for dropping in when you do. Valuable.

Jakob Wassermann