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Page Numbers, Just About Page Numbers...

Do you have an eBook or audiobook you are reading for the Tower Teams Reading Challenge that needs a page number? Do you see a discrepancy? Or need a conversion? Or some other question about pages?

Post it here.

Acceptable Resources:


More on GRs List
Probably Amazon...within the next three months.

Of course, if you find an eBook publisher who gives you word count, we will use that; however, we can NOT update GRs datafiles without a legitimate source.

Nevertheless, for the purposes of this challenge we will divide the wordcount by 250 per page.

We are using this from "This gives a rough rule of thumb of one page in print equating to 2KB."

Also, this:

Maybe this blogsite will help you a bit: .

Remember, our cut off is greater than or equal to 160 pages.

Science Fiction Writers of America
Short fiction: under 7,500 words
Novelette: 7,500-17,500 words
Novella: 17,500-40,000 words
Novel: 40,000 words and up

Short Mystery Fiction Society
Flash story: up to 1000 words
Short short story: 1001 - 4000 words
Long short story: 4001-8000 words
Novelette: 8001-17,500 words

Reserved.

Ashley Marie wrote: "One of our team member read Anomaly, which has no page number listed. Her Kindle version gave a location number of 3258, which should convert to 326 pages, correct? I just wanted to double check before I told her the wrong thing!

Ashley Marie, I'll take Smashwords as an acceptable "unofficial" source.

Smashwords has listed at 77,272 words = 309 pages.

Steven, while Amazon only has the file size at 287 KB, Smashwords has at 45,500 words = 182 pages. I'll take it as acceptable.

Woot! Thanks, Lisa Kay!

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Hi!! One of my team has read Love in the Irish Mist but it has no page numbers and I can't even find it on Amazon so I'm a little confused! It has 2770 locations, what do you think?

Thanks :)*waves*

Claire wrote: "Hi!! One of my team has read Love in the Irish Mist but it has no page numbers..."



Hmmm... very interesting, Claire. It was a free book that is no longer on Amazon/Kindle, even for money. However, I did find it on MOBI Reader with 382 KB = 191 pages.

I'll approve it for this challenge; however, since MOBI is NOT an approved reference for GRs datebase, I will NOT update it on the book's profile page. Just refer anyone who questions it to this post.

Lisa Kay wrote: "Ashley Marie wrote: "One of our team member read Anomaly, which has no page number listed. Her Kindle version gave a location number of 3258, which should convert to 326 pages, correct? I just want..."

Thanks, Lisa Kay!

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I read this and just noticed that it doesn't show a page count: Amazon has it as 224 pages. My print copy is really only 209 if you exclude the book excerpt at the end.

amazon link

I changed it to 224 pages, Mary, since that is what Amazon quotes.

Lisa Kay wrote: "Claire wrote: "Hi!! One of my team has read Love in the Irish Mist but it has no page numbers..."



Hmmm... very interesting, Claire. It was a free book..."

Thank you LK :)

I read and my edition has over 200 pages. I saw one edition here on goodreads is 130+ long

I read this book for Black team (Leather Jacket) challenge and it seems I can´t count it because of this edition that is 130+ pages long. is it because of it or is it something else?

all editions, except this one, are 200+
It is a lost case? am I missing something?

Lara, looking over your bookshelves, it appears that The Prince of Mist is not marked as read on your Manatee bookshelf. Not sure how that happened since you clearly marked one version of it on your normal Read bookshelf.

Your best bet is to find it on your Manatee shelf, mark that one and do your rating/review there, and then go back and remove the other one. (Or of course you could just add the one you rated onto your manatee shelf).

Já, Steven, that´s it! Thank you. (:
I didn´t realize I had two different editions on two different shelves. silly me

I had a similar situation recently. It took some digging into my shelves to figure it out. I thought since that might be it I'd try to help.

Glad we figured it out... even if that bumps up your team's numbers... *sigh* :)

Oo, I do know that for Round II, the FINISHED date has to be within the challenge guidelines for it to count, so on that note it should be fine.

I would assume with that many pages it's fine too. :) But Lisa Kay is in charge of page count questions!

Oh, now I know I can sleep in and Steven will take care of this thread. LOL! Thanks, Steven!

❀Oo❀, yes, Steven is correct. Even if you read 1,000 pages of a book before April 12th and finished 1 page of it on or after - and FINISHED it - that book would count towards Round II.

Haha, you're welcome. Hopefully I'm not overstepping my bounds. I just remembered asking that question early on in the challenge myself!

Edited comment #24, so it made sense.

Hello Lisa Kay,

I finished reading Arabian Pearl by Emma Wildes yesterday for another challenge. Amazon says the length is 264 pages, but this morning I looked at the ebook version because I like to double check page numbers and it says its 148 pages, which means I can't count it for this challenge. So upon further digging, the books is 585 KB, which can make it count, but its a novella with 25,000 words which will make it fall below the 160 page count. So I want to say no it cannot count. I just need some confirmation on it.

Man-oh-man, Hina! That one must have a lot of picture ads. I've found two sources that confirm the word count is 25,000. Sorry, divided by 250 = 100 pages. You are correct; it won't count.

Lisa Kay wrote: "Man-oh-man, Hina! That one must have a lot of picture ads. I've found two sources that confirm the word count is 25,000. Sorry, divided by 250 = 100 pages. You are correct; it won't count."

OKay that's what I got too...I just wanted to make sure I don't count it or discount it if it actually qualified. Thanks for clearing it up.

Hi LK - just wanted to confirm on both these books. I couldn't find word count in smashwords.

- Children's book with cute drawings beginning of each chapter. I have the hardcover version and I can confirm it as 247 pages but I don't know if that's acceptable for this challenge.

- GR's ebook version says 160 pages (a little uneasy) but paperback is 300+ pages. I have the ebook version and I can't seem to find the word count.

Thanks for your help, Lisa Kay!

Hi, Vi!


Word Count: 69,559 = 278 pages - more than listed! Still, I would go with what is listed for the HC, though you could argue the case. ��

- since I borrowed & read the PB of this from my library, I know it is 308 pages

Wow, TMB has an ebook page count of 160 and it's 308 pages in PB? Amazing!

Thanks for your help, LK!

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It wan't large print, either.

- i listened to the audio book, and good reads has the paperback verison listed at 480 pages.http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/78...

another audio book for me, good reads has the paperback listed as 380 pages.


another audio, good reads has the paperback listed as 320 pages.

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Love the Chet and Bernie Mysteries; I need to get back to it.

Hi! I've got a story that appears to have been published as five shorts of about 100 pages each. And it also appears to have been published as a 'volumes 1-4' book. If I read all 5, could I count them as one book? Or will none of them count?

The Island Part 1 is the first one.

I just ran into this issue, myself, in Round I, Claire. You can NOT count it, if you post it as separate stories; however if you post it as The Island (Fallen Earth) (1-4), it would count. ...as one.

Ok, thank you :)

I'm needing some help on page numbers. I think I've worked my way through the usual sources. Thank you!

Here you go, Rebecca:


= I’ll go with Amazon/Kindle = 161 pages

= I’ll go with Amazon/Kindle = 277 pages

= is free on Amazon & Harlequin. So, I downloaded it and it shows actual page numbers = 275 pages. I edited conflicting data base entries.

= I’ll go with Amazon/Kindle = 214 pages

= Again, I’ll go with Amazon/Kindle = 179 pages

Thanks Lisa Kay!!

I cross checked those with the KB file amount and they are running pretty much true to form.

Can I get page number for Going, Going, Ganache ebook version? :) Need it for RaT

Thanks :D

= 304 pages (according to paperback)

Lisa Kay - I have a quick question about page numbers and audiobooks. During the course of the RaT, I am going to be in the car a lot (one commute one way will be 4+ hours). I plan on listening to: and . What needs to be done in order to have these show up as pages in my "stats"?

Should I mark the hardcover as read or can the page numbers be added to audiobooks?

Thank you!

Oh, Rebecca... 4+ hours ONE way in a commute? I would die!!!

Steven - it's for a training that's all away across the state and then some. Luckily I don't mind audiobooks.

Usually I spend at least 2 hours a week for 2 days for one of my consulting jobs. Other than that, a 15 minute ride to the train station and 30 minutes on the train (again, 1 way) but at least I can "read!" I do the 4+ hour communte at least 3 times a year.

Oops - fuzzy math... I spend at least 4 hours a week (2 hours, 2 days a week) commuting.

I just put in the page numbers, Rebecca. I also added the hours/minutes.

= 304 pages

= 304

Anyone else wanting page numbers for their audiobooks... ask before the rush!

Thanks Lisa Kay!!

Rebecca wrote: "Steven - it's for a training that's all away across the state and then some. Luckily I don't mind audiobooks.

Usually I spend at least 2 hours a week for 2 days for one of my consulting jobs. ..."

Ah, I could deal with the train commute. I would love that actually, to get in reading time. But I do NOT like driving at ALL.

Thus, I purchased my new home approximately 5 minutes away from my job. X)