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some of these book I've already read, and some on my list to read...
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I'm sure that there are many more but I'll have to think about it ....

by John Steinbeck. Very different from his better known books. Also THE PRINCE by Machiavelli. This book could produce lots of interesting discussion.


Master and Margarita is one of my favourites and started a heated discussion when we read it a couple of months ago (as did Vile Bodies).
I like the idea of something short. I'm a huge Steinbeck fan so that's appealing.
Isn't Svejk unfinished?
Please keep the ideas coming. Many thanks.


I read this at college many years ago. Thanks for the suggestion. You're right about its quality and on my part a re-read is long overdue. (Am I the only person who finds re-reading Classics unsettling - over time my response to books changes dramatically. ).


I have always held that any book worth reading is worth rereading. That's extreme, of course, but I have found rereading the classics to be incredibly rewarding. I have reread books such as the Iliad, the Odyssey, the Republic, Bleak House, Middlemarch, Paradise Lost, and on and on multiple times, in some cases four or five times, and every time I find new insights in them.
In my experience, a true classic is almost impossible to appreciate fully the first time through. True classics, I believe, necessarily demand to be reread.
I have friends, college professors, who read Middlemarch to each other every summer, and have done so for at least forty years. A classics professor whose lecture courses for The Teaching Company, Elizabeth Vandiver, I greatly enjoy has read the Iliad and Odyssey many, many (and many more!) times, and still finds new nuggets of wisdom in them with each rereading.
A book can only speak to us based on where we are in our lives at the time we read it. As we change, if a book is truly great, the book and its impact on us necessarily changes, too, and as we are a different person, the book speaks to us differently. For me, a pretty fair definition of the difference between a book and a classic is that a classic is a book that becomes more powerful and wiser the more often we read it.

I had the strangest experience lately with Bel Ami. My new response was a complete reversal of my remembered response.
There's also much to be said for re-reading as we get older. Dickens and Eliot seem to get better and better (as does Austen).


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Be sure to let us know which book you eventually choose.


You are more than welcome. I re-read Vanity Fair last year and it was a fantastic experience. At University I'd argued that Anna Karenina was a far superior work with my Head of Department. I still think it was an odd pair to choose to contrast but can see now what an accomplished work Vanity Fair is - and the re-read pushed it nearer to the top of my favourite reads.
I had the opposite experience with Middlemarch - a novel I'd always revered. I came back to it this year and felt disappointed.


Wonderful quote. Thanks for it.

You are more than welcome. I re-read Vanity Fair last year and it was a fantastic experience."
By coincidence, the Victorians group is reading/discussing Vanity Fair right now. Discussion started April 1st, goes until May 15.

As for Middlemarch, I relished it, though I had read Vanity Fair first, which I think sort of prepared me for the breadth and depth of Eliot's wide-ranging knowledge of myriad topics of her period. Prior to both of them I devoured Dickens' David Copperfield and marveled at his array of characters.
Isn't it interesting how the cumulative effect of various classics opens others to us in remarkable ways?

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Acknowledged classics: anything by Edith Wharton
Unacknowledged: Cold Comfort Farm by Stella Gibbons, A High Wind in Jamaica by Richard Hughes

Also The Stranger (L'etranger) by Camus which seems little spoken of today.


I absolutely loved this book but agree it never seems to be mentioned. Such a shame because for me it is a truly thought provoking book.


I've never read 'High wind in Jamaica'. I've put it in my to read list.
Thanks for the recommendation.

I read Camus in my late teens and perhaps a re-read is long overdue.
As a man who combined literary greatness with goalkeeping he's one of my heroes.
I've never heard of Rolland so will be tracking down Jean-Christophe.

I've always enjoyed William Trevor but haven't read 'The Hill Bachelors'.
I'm not a natural reader of short fiction now but still enjoy it when I make the effort.
I was obsessed with Katherine Mansfield's short fiction for a while and I think that's put me off the form!


Castle Rackrent is very funny and satirical detailing four or five generation of a decaying aristocratic family in Ireland, as told by the faithful butler Thady McQuirk. It is Edgeworth's debut novel for adults (she wrote for children beforehand).
Belinda is a social satire set in England about a young woman's debut in society. The book is dominated by the fantastic character of Lady Delacour, who makes breast cancer and opium addiction topical central subjects of a popular romance.
Although bland by comparison, protagonist Belinda Portman is independent minded and contemplates seriously an inter-racial marriage (something deemed shocking in pre-emancipation 1801 England).
More outrageous for the reading public was the actual inter-racial marriage between a footman and maid (binary oppositions to Belinda and her love interest) which did not survive more than the first edition, being edited out until late in the 20th century.
Ennui turns on its head the notion of the idle aristocrat. The protagonist of this social satire decides he wants to make a difference and leaves England for Ireland to study his estate and tenants so that he can improve their condition and lot.
A very funny, and heart-warming denouement.

Certainly Sophocles Oedipus Rex would be a suggestion, although I am more drawn to his Antigone.
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Same here - wonderful book!


Me three! Didn't even want to read it and then couldn't put it done.

I read 'Stoner' - currently the most fashionable neglected classic. Hugely disappointed.
I've started The Assistant by Malamud. So far so good.
I love Carson McCullers.
(Just read Heart of Darkness - can't think why I'd missed it - brilliant!)



Also My Antonia by Willa Cather. Equally worthwhile.
Not exactly neglected but less than loudly trumpeted classics.

Has anybody here ever read it? Or is it truly a neglected classic?



Parcival a mediaeval epic
The Volsunga Saga an islandic saga and
And The History of Tom Jones, a Foundling 18th Century Satire
These I found by chance, since they did not show up on the usual classic lists.
Not strictly classics, but very enjoyable:
Adam Bede, my favourite Eliot and
Evelina, which inspired Jane Austen in her writing.




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It's great when someone comes up with something Classic but 'new' to us all - as in 'The Good Soldier'. None of us had read it and it produced a good evening's discussion.
So the question is ... what are the Classics out there you finally got round to reading and thought were fantastic?
Or what Classics do you think have been forgotten but are a must read?
(I did 'Revolutionary Road' about ten years ago - always wanted to read it and took a punt - again, that went down a storm.)