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message 1: by Elly (new)

Elly Helcl (ellymae) | 118 comments Mod
This is a great place to just chat with other members about whatever you want.


message 2: by Elly (new)

Elly Helcl (ellymae) | 118 comments Mod
Well, that is the recommendation...And I need to delete all of the old comments before I make it public :)


message 3: by Armada (new)

Armada Volya | 130 comments You know it'll break a few hearts when certain people will find out we aren't spending every living moment talking about new ways to bully them... that or they'll think all the evil plotting was deleted...


message 4: by Rick (new)

Rick Gualtieri (rickgualtieri) Armada wrote: "You know it'll break a few hearts when certain people will find out we aren't spending every living moment talking about new ways to bully them... that or they'll think all the evil plotting was de..."

Pity that they don't put that imagination of theirs toward writing good stories.


Nenia ✨ I yeet my books back and forth ✨ Campbell (neniacampbell) | 177 comments Mod
Stranger Than Fiction? (:


message 6: by Rick (last edited May 21, 2013 05:21AM) (new)

Rick Gualtieri (rickgualtieri) So it's reached my ears that a few people here have reservations about going public out of concern for the boogeyman known as STGRB. Well, alas, that cat is already out of the bag. If you check out their homepage (I'm not linking to it, the dipshits can get their SEO jollies elsewhere), it seems we have a Judas within our ranks. The horror of this is...well...actually it's not all that horrifying. It's just another of their cut-and-paste hatchet jobs along with commentary that suggests they learned all of their journalistic skills from watching countless episodes of Ricki Lake.

Oh well.

Truth is, we've suspected this for a while. Bottom line is that in a big city like Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ it's always going to be hard to keep a few cockroaches out of the kitchen. I suspect their posting of it now, though - on the eve of us going public - isn't a coincidence. When one plays childish games, one often can't help sticking their tongue out and going "Ynah!"

Personally, I plan to lose zero sleep over this. I would hope you would too. It happened and the sun still came up today, like it will do tomorrow and the next day.



Changing gears, I'd like to address the 'super sleuth' amongst us. Fist off, I want to say thank you for two reasons. 1) This AVI is one of my better photos and I appreciate you using it. If I'm going to show up somewhere unannounced, I'd prefer to be be looking my best. 2) Secondly, thanks for using one of my posts in which I refer to you as assholes. If you're going to quote me, I very much appreciate you getting it right.

As for the rest, all I'll say is that I recently released a new book and have started two more. If you read our "Feel free to squeeee" thread, you'll see many of our membership have done the same. Why is this important? Because it shows that you've already lost whatever sad mind games you're trying to play. While you're off humming the theme to Mission Impossible and cackling as you post your 'scoops', we're furthering our careers. We're improving our craft, building our readerships (that's this thing that happens when you try to put out good work and then don't subsequently treat your customers like shit...just in case you were confused), and having a lot of fun doing so.

And here's the thing...we're going to keep doing so and we're going to do it legitimately through hard work and dedication. You can't stop that.

So enjoy your victory (insert polite golf clap) for what it is: hollow.


message 7: by Rick (new)

Rick Gualtieri (rickgualtieri) Leaving my post up, but obviously a few points won't make much sense now that the group is open. :)

Oh well, same rules apply. If you're here to talk reading or writing, we welcome you.


Nenia ✨ I yeet my books back and forth ✨ Campbell (neniacampbell) | 177 comments Mod
I'd just like to say that I have just discovered the glorious trashiness that is the bodice-ripper genre and OH MY GOD. They are awesome.

Unfortunately, I had to bring the ones I bought to my bookclub and they all laughed at me because it was a sci-fi bookclub and yeah. Awkward. (:


message 9: by Rick (new)

Rick Gualtieri (rickgualtieri) Nenia wrote: "I'd just like to say that I have just discovered the glorious trashiness that is the bodice-ripper genre and OH MY GOD. They are awesome."

Goodbye, Nenia. See you in 3 years when you've read through them all. Oh wait, knowing how fast you read, make that more like 3 months. ;)


message 10: by Nenia � I yeet my books back and forth � (last edited May 23, 2013 02:32AM) (new)

Nenia ✨ I yeet my books back and forth ✨ Campbell (neniacampbell) | 177 comments Mod
Rick wrote: "Nenia wrote: "I'd just like to say that I have just discovered the glorious trashiness that is the bodice-ripper genre and OH MY GOD. They are awesome."

Goodbye, Nenia. See you in 3 years when yo..."


I'm reading Gone with the Wind right now, and it is pretty good so far although 1,000 pages is a little daunting - even for me. :P

I actually gave up Netgalley! The deadlines were stressing me out. I feel bad about the books I'm not reviewing but I think it's better to not review them than to review them without taking the time to really appreciate them. ETA: This being my personal stance.


message 11: by Rick (new)

Rick Gualtieri (rickgualtieri) Jeez, why do some writers care so much / get so bent out of shape about how others shelve their books? Seriously. I don't get it.


Nenia ✨ I yeet my books back and forth ✨ Campbell (neniacampbell) | 177 comments Mod
Rick wrote: "Jeez, why do some writers care so much / get so bent out of shape about how others shelve their books? Seriously. I don't get it."

Sometimes the personal attack ones can be a little hurtful, but it helps to just think of them as Youtube comments or something. Just stay out of it and let them think whatever they want. It's their right.

I'm getting better at that, I think. Also, I've stopped looking at my shelves. (:


message 13: by Elly (new)

Elly Helcl (ellymae) | 118 comments Mod
I am amused by the way I am shelved...except when I was shelved as "bitch" that one bothered me and I reported it to Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ. They agreed that it was inappropriate and removed it. :)

In general I try to stay off of my books pages. It is awesome to read the good but the bad can be pretty ugly.


Nenia ✨ I yeet my books back and forth ✨ Campbell (neniacampbell) | 177 comments Mod
Elly wrote: "I am amused by the way I am shelved...except when I was shelved as "bitch" that one bothered me and I reported it to Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ. They agreed that it was inappropriate and removed it. :)

In general ..."


"Bitch" is totally inappropriate and I do not blame you for doing that. It is the reason I changed my "excuse-me-but-wtf-r-u-doin" shelf to "this-cup-of-tea-is-not-for-me." That way, it's more about MY personal preferences as a reader and less about the author as a person. (:

I agree that the nice ones can be super awesome. I tend to screen my reviews by the positive ratings so I don't have to look at the negative reviews, although once in a while I do just to see if there are any common threads of criticism that are making people unhappy. If it's something I can work on, I make note of it.


message 15: by Armada (new)

Armada Volya | 130 comments I'm depressed. I know it's stupid, but I can't help it. I ran a short story through a writing group and out of 10 people who reviewed it, 2 didn't like it.
Why 2 out of 10 bother me, I don't know, but I need a bucket of icecream.


Nenia ✨ I yeet my books back and forth ✨ Campbell (neniacampbell) | 177 comments Mod
Armada wrote: "I'm depressed. I know it's stupid, but I can't help it. I ran a short story through a writing group and out of 10 people who reviewed it, 2 didn't like it.
Why 2 out of 10 bother me, I don't know,..."


Aww. But 80% who read it did like it! That's pretty great! Think of all those books on Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ that have 2.5 or even 1.8 rating averages. You rock!


message 17: by Armada (new)

Armada Volya | 130 comments I know. And I know that if I change the thing those two didn't like, the other 8 would hate it. Can't win them all, but I sure as hell wish I could.
I don't want much, I just want to be loved by everyone.


message 18: by Elly (new)

Elly Helcl (ellymae) | 118 comments Mod
Armada wrote: "I'm depressed. I know it's stupid, but I can't help it. I ran a short story through a writing group and out of 10 people who reviewed it, 2 didn't like it.
Why 2 out of 10 bother me, I don't know,..."


80% of the readers liked it!! That's awesome! I personally would be thrilled with 50%!


message 19: by Elly (new)

Elly Helcl (ellymae) | 118 comments Mod
Armada wrote: "I know. And I know that if I change the thing those two didn't like, the other 8 would hate it. Can't win them all, but I sure as hell wish I could.
I don't want much, I just want to be loved by e..."


Hehe! Isn't that what makes writers stand out from the crowd? We want everyone to love all of our work but it takes work (and sometimes therapy in extreme cases) for us to figure out that that's not gonna happen.


message 20: by Rick (new)

Rick Gualtieri (rickgualtieri) A good mantra to repeat: "Even JK Rowling has 1 star reviews."


message 21: by Elly (new)

Elly Helcl (ellymae) | 118 comments Mod
Rick wrote: "A good mantra to repeat: "Even JK Rowling has 1 star reviews.""

HAHAHA!!! But she DESERVES THEM!!! I will never forgive her for the awful ending to Harry Potter!


message 22: by Rick (new)

Rick Gualtieri (rickgualtieri) Yep and I'm sure she's terribly upset at that sitting in her solid gold castle. ;)


message 23: by Armada (new)

Armada Volya | 130 comments Who is this JK Rowlings I keep hearing about?

I think she got 1 star reviews for her unethical way of getting sales. She sold her soul to the mysterious god of the 1% that only shows himself to good writers. Though I hear he lost his ability to read in the past couple of years and is now showing up to random people.


Nenia ✨ I yeet my books back and forth ✨ Campbell (neniacampbell) | 177 comments Mod
Armada wrote: "I don't want much, I just want to be loved by everyone."

Oh my gosh, I know that feel bro. It breaks my heart when people block me because I'm like, "Wait, you don't want to talk about this? But I thought we were all friends here!"

But then, you know, if they really find me and my books so repulsive I guess we wouldn't have much to talk about anyway so maybe it's for the best. (:

That's how I try to think about it anyway!


message 25: by Krista (new)

Krista D. (kristadb1) | 51 comments Dear people sending me hate mail over my latest book:

Look, if I wanted to be told I was going to burn in the Lake of Fire, I'd just call my Mom, ok? Though, the "pen of Satan" was a nice touch. Can I borrow that for my autobiography?

Love,

Krista


message 26: by Krista (new)

Krista D. (kristadb1) | 51 comments Rick wrote: "Yep and I'm sure she's terribly upset at that sitting in her solid gold castle. ;)"

LOL


message 27: by Rick (new)

Rick Gualtieri (rickgualtieri) Krista wrote: "Dear people sending me hate mail over my latest book:

Look, if I wanted to be told I was going to burn in the Lake of Fire, I'd just call my Mom, ok? Though, the "pen of Satan" was a nice touch. C..."


Heh, I'm already getting that from my mother and all I did was announce the title of the next good (Goddamned Freaky Monsters) :)

Agreed on that pen of satan remark. That would make a nice title.


message 28: by Krista (new)

Krista D. (kristadb1) | 51 comments HAHA


message 29: by Armada (new)

Armada Volya | 130 comments I'm sure as a pen of Satan you'll get to a vip section, which has to be better then some cloud with a bunch of prudes.


message 30: by Krista (new)

Krista D. (kristadb1) | 51 comments I knew the book would be controversial. I forgot how controversial :D


message 31: by Krista (new)

Krista D. (kristadb1) | 51 comments Armada wrote: "I'm sure as a pen of Satan you'll get to a vip section, which has to be better then some cloud with a bunch of prudes."

This is the full email:

>>This book was written with the pen of SATAN and I will PRAY for your SOUL so that GOD in HIS grace will forgive you before the day of JUDGEMENT when you will go to HELL and BURN for eternity.<<


message 32: by Krista (new)

Krista D. (kristadb1) | 51 comments More than anything, the caps creep me out.


message 33: by Rick (new)

Rick Gualtieri (rickgualtieri) Krista wrote: "Armada wrote: "
>>This book was written with the pen..."


So does that mean God will forgive you and then send you to burn in hell? Man's that's kind of harsh. :)


message 34: by Krista (new)

Krista D. (kristadb1) | 51 comments lol yeah. I've gotten a handful of these since last night. I've clearly hit a nerve. Oops.


Nenia ✨ I yeet my books back and forth ✨ Campbell (neniacampbell) | 177 comments Mod
Krista wrote: "Armada wrote: "I'm sure as a pen of Satan you'll get to a vip section, which has to be better then some cloud with a bunch of prudes."

This is the full email:

>>This book was written with the pen..."


Isn't there a biblical saying about that? What is it, now, let me see....Oh yes.

"Judge not, lest ye be judged."


message 36: by J.R. (new)

J.R. Kiefer (JRkiefer) | 8 comments Krista, which book of yours does this relate to?

I am new to the group, btw, so nice to meet you :)


Nenia ✨ I yeet my books back and forth ✨ Campbell (neniacampbell) | 177 comments Mod
J.R. wrote: "Krista, which book of yours does this relate to?

I am new to the group, btw, so nice to meet you :)"


Hello, JR! And welcome!


message 38: by Krista (last edited Jun 07, 2013 01:22PM) (new)

Krista D. (kristadb1) | 51 comments J.R. wrote: "Krista, which book of yours does this relate to?

I am new to the group, btw, so nice to meet you :)"


First (Wrong) Impressions. It's a modern re-telling of Pride and Prejudice, set in Edmonton's inner city. A lot of people pick up Austen-related books looking for "clean" romance. The problem is that I've studied Austen and her books are well beyond romance. So I adapted her social commentary into a modern social commentary. It's upset a lot of people.

It also doesn't help that I was an inner city worker for 3 years, so the book is (very) loosely based on my work. The language is quite harsh in the book in places and the topics are not fluffy. So it was a shock to some people. (though, really, the blurb says it's based in the inner city. Did they think homeless people are all polite? lol )

Plus, there are gay people in my book. It's really upsetting some.

So I knew I'd get bad reviews. That's cool. But emails? Wow. Nice. :D


message 39: by J.R. (new)

J.R. Kiefer (JRkiefer) | 8 comments Thanks, I will take a look at it.


message 40: by J.R. (new)

J.R. Kiefer (JRkiefer) | 8 comments Nenia wrote: "J.R. wrote: "Krista, which book of yours does this relate to?

I am new to the group, btw, so nice to meet you :)"

Hello, JR! And welcome!"


Thanks, Nenia!


message 41: by Mike (new)

Mike Elton (mikeselton) | 6 comments So jealous, Krista. I've yearned for antichrist status for long and long.

Ah well...


message 42: by J.R. (new)

J.R. Kiefer (JRkiefer) | 8 comments Actually, what a great concept for a story:

Stumbling upon the Pen of Satan.


message 43: by Krista (new)

Krista D. (kristadb1) | 51 comments Mike wrote: "So jealous, Krista. I've yearned for antichrist status for long and long.

Can there be more than one of us? If so, I'm happy to share the love.


message 44: by Krista (new)

Krista D. (kristadb1) | 51 comments J.R. wrote: "Actually, what a great concept for a story:

Stumbling upon the Pen of Satan."


LOL


message 45: by Armada (new)

Armada Volya | 130 comments Wait, people are saying you'll go to hell for cursing and acknowledging the existence of gay people? Wow... good thing you didn't have wizards in your book.


Nenia ✨ I yeet my books back and forth ✨ Campbell (neniacampbell) | 177 comments Mod
Or worse...GAY wizards. *gasp*


message 47: by Krista (new)

Krista D. (kristadb1) | 51 comments Gay wizards are from Satan.


message 48: by Krista (last edited Jun 07, 2013 03:53PM) (new)

Krista D. (kristadb1) | 51 comments Armada wrote: "for cursing and acknowledging the existence of gay people? "

This wasn't in the hate mail, but a 1* review said it was a part of my liberal agenda :D I've always wanted a liberal agenda.


message 49: by Rick (new)

Rick Gualtieri (rickgualtieri) Not to pull the moderator card, but lets all be mindful of the rules of the group before we go down the route of discussing reviews. Thx.


message 50: by Krista (new)

Krista D. (kristadb1) | 51 comments That wasn't my intent. Sorry :)


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