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I suppose the most alien aliens who share actual page time with the humans are the Moties from The Mote in God's Eye, but they do also sort of remind me of bugs. Which reminds me of Bruce Sterling's Shapers and Mechists.
Lots of authors do have truly put-there aliens, but they tend to play minor roles in the stories alongside more recognizably earth like creatures. Niven's Puppeteers are weird looking, but at their heart they are basically cowardly businessmen/politicians. But then he has the Grog, the Bandersnatch and the Outsiders. Jack Chalker's Well World has more aliens per minute than even Star Wars and some of them are things like "coherent color."



Also try A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge.






the obvious one that would relate to these two would be Starship Troopers


The aliens are really alien; the whole book is about how alien they actually are.
I can't post a link because im on my crappy phone, sorry.

I lost my heart to a Starship Trooper :(

Haven't we all. Avon from Blake's 7 was one.
Peter Hamilton's Great North Road has a totally alien thingy in the Zanthswarm (does that appear in other books?). The other alien entity in the story, the one on St. Libra (and central to the plot), I thought was a bit of an anticlimax.

And his "Eden" and "The Invincible" has 'really alien aliens' too )
Or nice short story - "Wacky World" by Edmond Hamilton - full arsenal of aliens

Blindsight by Peter Watts not only has non-humanoid aliens but also raises interesting questions about the nature of intelligence and sentience.
China Mieville's book Embassytown is about aliens furthering their mental evolution through language.
The Helliconia books by Brian Aldiss, Xenowealth by Tobias Buckell, and the Rama books by Clarke and Lee all have various interesting aliens that are in the story, but mostly in the background.


http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17...

Meaning, of course, that it's almost impossible to write aliens without attributing human thoughts, motivations, emotions, concerns, personalities, etc. to them.
Anthropomorphizing isn't just about sticking an alien in a human body with an oddly shaped forehead; you can have the most bizarre alien body in the world, but if their motivations, thoughts and actions can be related to human analogies, more than likely you're anthropomorphizing.
From what I've read, aliens tend to be written in only three ways: monsters, humans in weird bodies, and as mysterious agents who are talked about, but never actually seen much in the story.
Starship Trooper's main aliens were monsters: bugs. Kind of boring.
All the aliens in Iain M. Banks's Culture novels (that I've read) are just humans in weird bodies. They talk like humans, compete like humans, have exactly the same concerns and desires as humans. Pretty much the same with Vernor Vinge's aliens (IIRC) in A Deepness in the Sky. He built an interesting biology and society for them, but ultimately they were just the same as humans warring for territory.
The aliens in 2001 were of the latter kind: mysterious, never seen, motives unclear...you never really see from their perspective. Alastair Reynold's Revelation Space universe has this kind of alien as well...the Pattern Jugglers (nice one!), the Inhibitors/Wolves. Greg Bear's Forge of God and Anvil of Stars uses this kind as well.
I prefer category 3, but would like to read real attempts at writing convincing aliens that are none of the above.
I have not read most of what people have listed here so far, but true aliens would be extremely hard (impossible?) to write about. Humans simply couldn't relate to them at all (neither the writer nor the reader). I mean, write a convincing story from a dog's point of view and don't make it sound like a human. Even that's difficult or impossible to do.
So...I'm skeptical. ;)

That whole book is alien. o_0


By Micah's description, the alien (aliens??? never quite sure if it was just one or more) in that story would be of the mysterious agent type.
On the other hand, I would have to agree with Paul as far as inhuman aliens were concerned. We never did learn why Wells' Martians came to Earth or what they wanted, how they communicated, etc. Wells never gave them anything that might be construed as human characteristics.



The biggest problem in creating technologically advanced aliens is that any society that can advance to a space-going culture has to be able to think logically (at least in the scientific fields), grasp and handle tools, use fire or some other high-temperature source for dealing with metals, and cooperate well enough to create an industrial base. This precludes mindless monsters from being believable as a space-going race. I suspect that's why so many "aliens", no matter what their physical appearance, seem to be somewhat "human".

Not that this has ever stopped SF authors from writing about aliens who are both technological and monsters...or that possess no visible means of creating their high technology.
For example, in
Accelerando Charles Stross has an alien race that's supposed to be one of the uber races, one that has lorded it over other races for eons. Yet that super highly advanced technological race is described as single celled organisms that are the size and shape of...a swamp.
Mmm...OK, so how did they build space ships? How did they dominate other more agile races? How did they develop into galactic task masters? No mention of this from Stross. Stross also has fish aliens, another one of the slave driver races, with space ships full of water for the swarms of aliens to swim around in. How did they evolve into a technological race? How did the first of them smelt the metals needed to form the tools that would eventually propel them into space? Again, no mention.
Iain M. Bank violates that a lot as well.
It's one of my pet peeves about aliens in SF. If your aliens do not have appendages that can manipulate tools, then you'd better explain how they evolved into high-tech races or else you kill my ability to suspend disbelief.
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