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message 1: by Tien (last edited Sep 23, 2013 04:27PM) (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
The Goal:

To use ALL letters / words (green squares) / numbers (purple squares) / punctuation (red square) to spell out whole title of 1 (one) book which you will have to finish reading to complete this challenge.

This is your GOAL TITLE

Series name / Subtitle are optional
Please note if you choose to use series name / subtitle in reading your letters - you must include these for your Goal Title too.

Official Game Time:

NOW to New Year's Day (Midnight of 1 January 2013)


message 2: by Tien (last edited Sep 25, 2013 03:15PM) (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
The Basics:

description

Roll 2 die
The one on the left is your column and the one on the right is your row. So, if you roll 3 / 2, the letter you got is "E"

Read book with any word in title beginning with letter (as per your roll)
Exception is made for: Q, X, & Z where it can be any word which contained that letter
Words exclude: A, An, The

Each letter requires a unique book (ie. You cannot use one book for more than 1 letter). You may cross over with other reading challenges.

IF you land on any of the green / purple / red squares, you do not have to read any books. These are Free Squares for you to use to complete your goal:
* green squares are bonus words for you to spell your Goal Title which you may also use as part of a bigger word, eg. "for" in "forever", "and" in "candid" etc
*red square is to cover any sort of punctuation which you may need to spell your Goal Title
*purple squares are for those books with numbers in title - you can use these squares to "spell" your Goal Title (that is, if title use “one� rather than �1�, you can still use the �1-3� purple square to spell this title out). Note: you can also use it to spell out first, second, third, etc�

If you landed on a square once, you can only use that letter once (that is, if you've only landed on the letter N once then you can only use it once but if you've landed on R twice, you have to use it twice)

Examples:

1. Landed on E, L, V, 1-3, L, E
You need to read 5 books with word in title beginning with above letters; eg,
The Esential Leunig
Lexicon
Velocity
Lolita
A Teaspoon of Earth and Sea
Goal Title = Level 2

2. Landed on W, P, I, Punctuation, S, I, R, T, “THE�, A, H, E, S
You need to read 11 books with word in title beginning with above letters; eg,
Wolves of the Calla
The Professor
Forged in Dreams and Magick
The Weight of Souls
The Idigo Spells
The Rainbow Troops
The First Third
All Our Yesterdays
The Mystery of a Hansom Cab
A Case of Exploding Mangoes
Secrets of Catalpa Hall
Goal Title = The Pirate's Wish

You will need to Un-Scramble your letters to form your Goal Title BUT you MUST use ALL letters


message 3: by Tien (last edited Sep 23, 2013 04:33PM) (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
Your Game Plans:
Please create your own planning thread (under this folder) which will make it easy for me to check later on. Please include your GR handle first so I can find your thread easily.

Market Place:
I realise that it will be difficult to use ALL your letters so go to Market Place to get rid of letters you don’t want and get ones you do need.


message 4: by Tien (last edited Sep 25, 2013 03:43PM) (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
The Prizes:

Because it's our 5th Birthday; I decided to splurge a bit and spoil you guys for being so Awesome!

THE Prize: a paperback / digital copy of The Thirteenth Tale by Diane Setterfield

Your choice of either pb / ebook (it will also depend on your location but I'd be ordering to The Book Depository / Kobo)

Why this book? It's one of the first books I read for our first shelf in October 2008 (Mystery)

This is the prize for having completed the goal with the most letters* in title so a bit of luck and ingenuity required

*I will be counting the number of squares you've landed on but it sounds better when I say, "most letters in title".

To be eligible for this prize, books read must be 200 pages or more. I will look at the number of pages listed on the most popular edition of the book on GR (ie. the book on top of the ‘Other Edition� list). In relation to digital editions only book with no specified page numbers:
1. Minimum of 70,000 word count; and
2. Let me know early by posting here of your book and sources of your data for (1) above; and
3. post your data again in your planning thread.

Please ensure that I can access your shelves to check your reads, if your setting is on private, send me a friend-vite (promise, I don’t spam)

Random awards: 2 handmade bookmarks

These bookmarks are lovingly hand-crafted by yours truly (see examples here)

I will randomly draw 2 winners out of those who completed this challenge.

Please note: if you have won the book prize, you are not eligible for the bookmarks.

It's turning out to be a bigger challenge than the one I foreseen so I'm opening this all the way to the end of New Year's Day (midnight 1 January 2013).

You'll want to complete it by this date to kick off for a Big 2014 :D


message 5: by Coralie (new)

Coralie | 1658 comments Let me see if I have this correctly.

I have an 8 letter title I am aiming for. I have rolled 8 times and have 5 letters I want to use, 2 letters I don't want and a purple that I don't want. The letters that I don't want I can swap with someone who has those that I do need but I can't swap the purple number.

As as alternative, keeping the same book I could include the series name (which would nicely use my purple number) and roll a whole lot more (and read a whole lot more) to achieve all those extra required letters.

Is that about right?


message 6: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
That is about right, Coralie, but you're forgetting The Broker. you can try trading in if you can catch the right trading times :)


message 7: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
Coralie, would you mind please moving your game plan to your own thread? I've just created mine as an example...

Also, if you wish to put up some of your letters for a swap, list them in the Market Place (swap).

Thanks :)


message 8: by Tara (new)

Tara | 742 comments Do we need a book for the green tiles?


message 9: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
No, green tiles are bonus words (no reading required)

Tara, would you mind creating your own thread for your game plan, please? Thanks!


message 10: by Tara (new)

Tara | 742 comments Yep. Just about to do that.


message 11: by Tara (new)

Tara | 742 comments Oh, one more question... We are supposed to read the book for the goal title too, right?


message 12: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments So I pick any book as my goal title?


message 13: by Amy (new)

Amy | 2234 comments If we land on the green squares, can their contents be used as part of a larger word (like "for" as part of forever)?


message 14: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
yes to Tara & Dee

good catch, Amy... I would allow that and will amend the rules when I'm on pc :)


message 15: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments what happens if I don't need the green and purple squares i drew? my book title doesn't need those...but I can only swap them for like ones...


message 16: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
Dee wrote: "what happens if I don't need the green and purple squares i drew? my book title doesn't need those...but I can only swap them for like ones..."

Don't forget the broker...


message 17: by D.G. (new)

D.G. | 1370 comments Question about the rolling of the dice...if you're book has 10 letters in the title, I guess you have to roll 10 times?


message 18: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments could we propose a word count for ebooks only (like 350 wpp as a basis) - so like 70k words minimum to count?


message 19: by Susan (new)

Susan | 3745 comments Mod
Tien, do you want to * this so it stays at the top?


message 20: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
Susan wrote: "Tien, do you want to * this so it stays at the top?"

Thanks for the reminder, Susan :)

Dee wrote: "could we propose a word count for ebooks only (like 350 wpp as a basis) - so like 70k words minimum to count?"

Sorry, Dee, I'm trying to make it really easy for myself this time especially since it's coming up to the busy season (hubby's birthday, our anniversary, my son's bday, then Christmas all coming up one after the other-I won't have much time to check things out)

D.G. wrote: "Question about the rolling of the dice...if you're book has 10 letters in the title, I guess you have to roll 10 times?"

I guess so, unless, of course, if you got any of the bonus words etc...


message 21: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments I'll volunteer to check them ;) (I have ulterior motives - lots of ARC's that are ebooks only)


message 22: by Amy (new)

Amy | 2234 comments I think it is better to save a roll or two. I did all of my rolling yesterday and just realized that I could have used "in" in the middle of one of my title words. I can't now because that will leave me with an unused letter :-(


message 23: by D.G. (new)

D.G. | 1370 comments Tien wrote: "
I guess so, unless, of course, if you got any of the bonus words etc... "


What happens if you don't have use for the bonus words or numbers? Meaning, the title of my book is Magic Bites so none of the bonus words or numbers would apply...what happens if I get one? Is that something I could trade with the Broker for a letter I need?


message 24: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
Amy wrote: "I think it is better to save a roll or two. I did all of my rolling yesterday and just realized that I could have used "in" in the middle of one of my title words. I can't now because that will lea..."

lol - that's a good strategy, I think... :)


message 25: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments that's whawt she said when I asked about it - its about the only way to get rid of them


message 26: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
Dee wrote: "I'll volunteer to check them ;) (I have ulterior motives - lots of ARC's that are ebooks only)"

I know you have an ulterior motive, Dee, ha ha ha... will your eARCs be published as ebooks only?


message 27: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments yeah, at least one of them is (Molly Harper's new one)..i'm going to read it anyway (i was just going to use it if I got an R from someone)


message 28: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
Dee wrote: "that's whawt she said when I asked about it - its about the only way to get rid of them"

Aww - the green squares are feeling really unwanted right now :(

You'll just have to watch on the specials available through the broker - it may require patience but it will definitely require speed ;p


message 29: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
I don't like saying "No" but I also don't like excluding books... any books... SO:

ebooks are allowed on following conditions:
1. as Dee suggested min. 70K words
2. that you give me heads up early by posting your book here with links to wherever you found the data for (1) above (so I can have a look when I have a chance during the game rather than just at the end)
3. post same data in your planning thread so I don't have to go looking for it again.

I'll amend above rules now...


message 30: by Amy (new)

Amy | 2234 comments Amy wrote: "I think it is better to save a roll or two. I did all of my rolling yesterday and just realized that I could have used "in" in the middle of one of my title words. I can't now because that will lea..."

I counted wrong and rolled too few times...YAY. I can use "IN" after all.


message 31: by Susan (new)

Susan | 3745 comments Mod
Oh, no! I misunderstood about the green squares. Don't know how I could have -- it seems very clear when I read it over now.

But that means I've rolled too many times for the goal book I chose. I kept getting green squares and ignoring them as freebies. And I stopped rolling when I saw an idea for a title I could read.

So now ... what do I do ... do I have get rid of this title, and find a book with 7 letters and 3 words? Or will the broker sometimes offer the opportunity to just donate an extra word we need to get rid of?


message 32: by Bea (last edited Sep 26, 2013 02:29PM) (new)

Bea | 5276 comments Mod
So, if I need two greens ("the" x2) but only have one green ("for") to swap, I am out of luck? Then what do I do - spell out "the"?


message 33: by Amy (new)

Amy | 2234 comments Bea wrote: "So, if I need two greens ("the" x2) but only have one green ("for") to swap, I am out of luck? Then what do I do - spell out "the"?"

I have a feeling you may be able to trade for your "THE" with the Broker. That hasn't come into play yet, so I'm sure Tien will tell us more in the coming days.


message 34: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
There will be lots of opportunities with the Broker if you catch it at the right time. So just watch this space and don't stress out too much now ;)

I know, you just can't help it- all of you being planners, ha ha ha


message 35: by Bea (new)

Bea | 5276 comments Mod
I have written off The Broker as a method of getting what I need due to the "if you catch it at the right time" and "first come first serve" ideas associated with it.

I work full time and have limited time spans when I am on the computer. That makes me think The Broker is not a source that will be available to me.

So...if I do not succeed in getting it from The Broker...STRESS!


message 36: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1218 comments Another issue with The Broker is time zones. We are all over the world and people are not online at the same times. Perhaps The Broker can be up for 24 hours so that everyone will have an opportunity to use it? You can still have the first come, first served rule.


message 37: by Susan (new)

Susan | 3745 comments Mod
Lauren wrote: "Another issue with The Broker is time zones. We are all over the world and people are not online at the same times. Perhaps The Broker can be up for 24 hours so that everyone will have an opportuni..."

You don't think Tien should set her alarm clock for 3 AM to make a post for us? lol


message 38: by Susan (new)

Susan | 3745 comments Mod
Tien wrote: "There will be lots of opportunities with the Broker if you catch it at the right time. So just watch this space and don't stress out too much now ;) "

But I don't think this answers my question about whether I should pick a different book, since I rolled too many times. Or will the broker offer an opportunity to get rid of extra (word) tiles without taking more?


message 39: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
Susan wrote: "You don't think Tien should set her alarm clock for 3 AM to make a post for us? lol"

Errr, yea... that's NOT happening, ha ha ha

Don't worry too much, you guys... there will definitely be lots of flexibility with timing & "prices" at each trading session ;p

In any case, I've got 2 other time zones on my phone and it's telling me, 5pm in LA & 8pm in NY right now so... that's good approximation for most of you, right?

am keeping it close to my chest, aren't I?

Just so you know, the first trading session is coming up sometime next 24-48 hours ;)


message 40: by [deleted user] (new)

Im in , but im completely confused about how many rolls? how to play? :(:( Sorry im being dumb , please help.


message 41: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments the rolls = the number of letters in the title...so if you have an 8 letter title, you roll 8 times


message 42: by [deleted user] (new)

Dee wrote: "the rolls = the number of letters in the title...so if you have an 8 letter title, you roll 8 times"

After checking the game plans i have understood , thanks for helping dee.


message 43: by Susan (new)

Susan | 3745 comments Mod
Karen wrote: "Dee wrote: "the rolls = the number of letters in the title...so if you have an 8 letter title, you roll 8 times"

After checking the game plans i have understood , thanks for helping dee."


But be careful to count any non-letter tiles you get, too. I messed that up at first.


message 44: by [deleted user] (new)

Susan wrote: "Karen wrote: "Dee wrote: "the rolls = the number of letters in the title...so if you have an 8 letter title, you roll 8 times"

After checking the game plans i have understood , thanks for helping ..."


Ok , I will do that , thank you :)


message 45: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments ok, i have another question, on the Broker - you said so you could trade up to 2 letters, but 4 squares...how does that work?


message 46: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
Dee wrote: "ok, i have another question, on the Broker - you said so you could trade up to 2 letters, but 4 squares...how does that work?"

There is a limit of 'buying' 2 letters but this session because it's special, each letter is worth 2 squares so you can 'trade in' a maximum of 4 squares for the limit of getting 2 letters from broker.

Hope that's clearer. Sorry, I'm late... been away for the weekend with no reception whatsoever.


message 47: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments i think it as more the wording was funky...in that it made it sound like you could do up to 4, when really, your only option was 2 or 4 ;)


message 48: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1218 comments Can we read out target book now or do we have to wait until we've read all the others first?


message 49: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9030 comments Mod
Ooh, good question! Can't believe I missed that in the rules.

The intention was always for goal title to be read lastto finish off


message 50: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1218 comments Thanks Tien - I'll put it on the back burner for now :0)


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