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Jim, my dad was a reader of the same sorts of books. In fact, my whole family were/are readers from grams down to my baby sister. But, I never really did much more than laugh at the cover's of dad's books until I was in my 20's. I realized when I went away to school and was around new people how many books "EVERYONE" had read, and I hadn't. I went to an inner city school, so while most kids were reading The Catcher in the Rye and Lord of the Flies I was reading I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings and Black Like Me. All good books, no complaints here, but I felt like I was missing things...so I started reading, more and more. I've always loved Sci-fi & Fantasy in the film area, so it was easy to pull that in with the "classics", and on and on it goes. In HS, I don't remember reading anything I didn't "have" to. I don't remember having the time.

Bobby, yes! I have seen you mention A Canticle for Leibowitz. Since then, (because I now recognize the title) I've seen it mentioned several times in different groups. I absolutely want to read it.


Bobby Bermea (beirutwedding) | 412 comments Amelia wrote: "I loathed this book. I was actually thrilled with the ending, and if you knew me at all you would know that I don't deal well when my characters are [spoilers removed]. I was hoping for that partic..."

Btw, why did you loathe Stranger in a Strange Land? (I have my suspicions but still I wonder).


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You already know I did. Cheeky!

Still makes me shudder...all those pages, and in the end: Utter Hate!


message 54: by Phil (new) - rated it 2 stars

Phil J | 329 comments Sarah wrote: "One book may be like an old boyfriend. You meet him years later and wonder what you ever saw in the guy.

Another may be like a favorite teacher. You meet her years later and realize that she is ev..."


Beautifully written. Also, your judgement must be better than mine. A lot of my favorites are more like that old high school friend you avoid at parties so you won't have to hear their political opinions.


Bobby Bermea (beirutwedding) | 412 comments Amelia wrote: "You already know I did. Cheeky!

Still makes me shudder...all those pages, and in the end: Utter Hate!"


I already know you did. But what don't you like about it? Or did we already have that discussion somewhere and I'm forgetting(senility)?


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Crap...I'm going to try to find my old Library Thing sign in. After 9 years I'll never be able to dig down to the specifics of what I hated. I've been using the years to blot it out of my memory. :/

(P.S. Way to bring us back on topic. I bed G33 appreciates it. :)


message 57: by [deleted user] (new)

Apparently I blocked out a lot, as I thought the book had three sections rather than 5. And, my review wasn't as revealing as I had hoped. It seems that I simply hated the character of MVS, for the most part. As his (view spoiler) bumped the book from 1 to 3 stars (I amended that on my current shelf).

Original review:

/review/show...


message 58: by Bobby (last edited Nov 11, 2015 08:50PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Bobby Bermea (beirutwedding) | 412 comments Amelia wrote: "Apparently I blocked out a lot, as I thought the book had three sections rather than 5. And, my review wasn't as revealing as I had hoped. It seems that I simply hated the character of MVS, for the..."

I just read your review. For the first time I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, I recently re-read it because my nephew was reading it and some of that was like wow, wow, wow. I'm like, "Are you freaking kidding me?" And I'm not a guy to excuse stuff because "that was the time period". Sure, Heinlein was comfortable putting that (and the rest of the drivel when Jill is stripping) in a book because a lot of people were thinking the same way but holy smokes. Take responsibility for your own choices or not. I will say, I didn't even notice it when I was a kid so there's an extent to where, that's just what was in the ether. Every step along the way it's been women who have taught me to see better.

Or like, there's all this free love -- as long as it's men with several women. You don't see too much of women with several men and man on man is still a definite and unqualified no no. Stranger in a Strange Land pushed out a lot of boundaries -- but all in one direction. It was for Samuel R. Delany, Ursula K. Le Guin and Octavia E. Butler -- among others I'm sure, to push the other boundaries out.


message 59: by [deleted user] (new)

Thanks for the prompting, Bobby. I've been moving all of my old reviews from Librarything. I'm only on M at this point and I didn't review everything, but it has been an interesting process to look back. :)

(It was the first time you'd read my review, because it wasn't on GR until yesterday. I didn't have many written reviews on here, mostly just star ratings. I've even added book I forgot about.)


Bobby Bermea (beirutwedding) | 412 comments Amelia wrote: "Thanks for the prompting, Bobby. I've been moving all of my old reviews from Librarything. I'm only on M at this point and I didn't review everything, but it has been an interesting process to look..."

Sheesh. My post above is practically incomprehensible. I was going to edit it but I wouldn't know where to begin. Sorry about that. I understand what I was getting at but I can't see how anybody else would.


message 61: by [deleted user] (new)

I guess I speak incomprehensible, because I understood it. Or, maybe I just THOUGHT I did...


message 62: by Jim (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jim (jimmaclachlan) | 2369 comments I understood it. No problem. Made sense.


Bobby Bermea (beirutwedding) | 412 comments Right?

Sometimes, you're in your head and you're speaking in short hand. If the other person is in sync, that's okay.


Bobby Bermea (beirutwedding) | 412 comments Jim wrote: "I understood it. No problem. Made sense."

Jim. Also fluent in Incomprehensible.


message 65: by Jim (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jim (jimmaclachlan) | 2369 comments You should hear my wife sometimes.
;)


Bobby Bermea (beirutwedding) | 412 comments Jim wrote: "You should hear my wife sometimes.
;)"


Hahahaha. I take it she's not on Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ?


message 67: by [deleted user] (new)

Mr. says my sister and I speak our own language and he can't understand what we're on about. :)


message 68: by Jim (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jim (jimmaclachlan) | 2369 comments Bobby, she's not, but I told her about this exchange. She agrees. She often mangles words & sentences, especially when writing since she's dyslexic. She knows it & has a sense of humor about it. Good thing since I've been teasing her about it for 30+ years.
:)


message 69: by [deleted user] (new)

I had a roommate who always mashed words up:

Underpit
Gription
bularky

That sort of thing. I used to tease her that I was going to write a book one day and starting keeping a list (which of course I lost somewhere along the way). They weren't actual words, but they were very creative!


Bobby Bermea (beirutwedding) | 412 comments Amelia wrote: "I had a roommate who always mashed words up:

Underpit
Gription
bularky

That sort of thing. I used to tease her that I was going to write a book one day and starting keeping a list (which of cours..."


That's how Shakespeare did it. Now he gets credit for having this massive vocabulary.


message 71: by [deleted user] (new)

Oh, she'd love it that you just lumped her with Shakespeare! I'll be telling her about that next chat.


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