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"You can’t buy happiness , but you can buy books and that’s kind of the same thing." -Anonymous


One of my favorite quotes about money is:
"I never been in no situation where havin' money made it any worse." ----Clinton Jones




He was one of my grandfather's favorite authors while Mickey Spillane was one of mine. Typical that we should fall on opposite sides of the fence like that. I enjoyed reading for the sake of entertainment while Grandpa always thought it had to be enlightening. (He was editor, owner, & publisher of "The Long Islander", a newspaper started by Walt Whitman.) He called my books trash, I called his boring, although I did like "The Old Man & The Sea". I found out that Hemingway & Spillane had a very similar argument.

Jim: That is so great about your grandfather once being editor, owner, & publisher of "The Long Islander"! Here's a link to the newspaper:
Interesting about the different opinions.
As for Hemingway, I have mixed feelings about his work. Below is some of what I wrote in my review of his book (which I listened to as an audiobook): A Moveable Feast:
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"Actually, I didn't see why people raved about it so much. Except for Hemingway's mention of famous people, I didn't find it that interesting or extraordinary. The writing seemed so matter-of-fact and plain. Even the descriptions seemed matter-of-fact. I suppose that was Hemingway's style. At least I experienced the book, even though it didn't carry me away. It was something I had always wondered about, having heard the expression "a moveable feast" so many times."
My review is here: /review/show...
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I also listened to some of Hemingway's short stories. (The Short Stories) I wasn't drawn in.
My review: /review/show...
PS-There's a movie based on Hemingway's life ("Hemingway")(1988):
My review: /review/show...

Now what happened with Ernest Hemingway was that he wrote this nasty piece about me. I never say anything bad about a writer. Some are better than others, that’s all. And some make more money. But anyway, I got aggravated at him writing that piece about me, cause none of it was true. So I was on a show in Chicago, a live TV show. It was in a big theatre and there was a stage audience, and the guy who was interviewing me said, “Did you read that piece that Hemingway wrote about you?� And I said, “Hemingway who?� It brought the house down, but he hated my guts after that.
Excerpts from the Strand magazine interview I found here:
The excerpts are a quick read & include the pictures behind the bar story & some other interesting observations. If you can, read through it.
"Hemingway hated me," Spillane said in a 2001 interview. "I sold 200 million books, and he didn't. Of course most of mine sold for 25 cents, but still ... Those big-shot writers could never dig the fact that there are more salted peanuts consumed than caviar."
From an obituary I found here:
Spillane & Hemmingway were similar in a lot of ways; contemporaries, authors, both were larger than life in their real lives, so they butted heads. They make an interesting comparison between the artisan & the artist.
While looking for the quotes, I came across an interesting book, Re-Covering Modernism: Pulps, Paperbacks and the Prejudice of Form. It's way too expensive to buy & not in any of my libraries, but I put it on my Paperbackswap wish list.

While looking for the quotes, I came across an interesting book, Re-Covering Modernism: Pulps, Paperbacks and the Prejudice of Form. It's way too expensive to buy & not in any of my libraries, but I put it on my Paperbackswap wish list.
I'm too lazy to retype the entire thing, so read this excerpt of an interview with Spillane. It has most of them & covers him pretty well.
Basically, both authors had a lot in common & it caused them to butt heads. Their dynamic is a good comparison between the artist & the artisan, IMO. While I have a lot of respect for both, I'm far more comfortable with the latter. They're easier going.

Thanks for the interesting information!

he gives it to."---Dorothy Parker.


"To suppose, as we all suppose, that we could be rich and not behave as the rich behave, is like supposing that we could drink all day and keep absolutely sober."
---Logan Pearsall Smith

Nina, yes, it seems that Hemingway's first wife, Hadley, got a raw deal.
Below is a link to my review of The Paris Wife:
/review/show...

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EXCERPT: (Mickey Spillane talking in an interview):
"...it was a very old restaurant and the place was down on the Florida Keys. The girl behind the counter had a picture of Hemingway—he used go fishing down there—and she had put it in a frame and put it up behind the cash register. I used to go diving out there, around the area. She’d found out who I was, and one day she said to me, “Can I have your picture?� So I gave her a picture, and she put it up next to Hemingway’s. Then Hemingway came in one day—I hate telling this story because it sounds like I’m making fun of Hemingway and I’m not, cause I liked him—and says, “What’s his picture doing up next to mine?� And she says, “I know him, too.� And he says, “Well either you take down his picture or you take down mine.� So she took down his picture and gave it back to him. Now that’s not a nice story to tell. [laughing]"
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Thanks for the interesting information!"
It is. Wow. That's what I get for typing during work!
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Gee, there are a lot of them!

“In a good bookroom you feel in some mysterious way that you are absorbing the wisdom contained in all the books through your skin, without even opening them.� ---Mark Twain

---Andrew D. Scrimgeour, NY Times article: "Scribbling in the Margins"
FROM:

---"William Forrester" (Sean Connery) (In the film "Finding Forrester" [2000], written by Mike Rich
"Write drunk; edit sober." ---Anon.; often attributed to Ernest Hemingway

SEE BOOKS:
_ Thousand Pieces of Gold_ by Ruthanne Lum McCunn
_A Thousand Pieces of Gold: Growing Up Through China's Proverbs_ by Adeline Yen Mah





I'm currently streaming a Netflix movie called "Music of the Heart" (1999), starring Meryl Streep as a music teacher. (Oscar-nominated drama, based on a true story) It's very good so far.
"Story of a schoolteacher's struggle to teach violin to inner-city Harlem kids."
Aidan Quinn is very appealing in this film. Of course, Streep is terrific, as usual.

--Anaïs Nin (1903�1977), French-born American writer
The Diary of Anaïs Nin, Vol. 1: 1931-1934
The Diary of Anaïs Nin, Vol. 2: 1934-1939
The Diary of Anaïs Nin, Vol. 3: 1939-1944
The Diary of Anaïs Nin, Vol. 4: 1944-1947
The Diary of Anaïs Nin, Vol. 5: 1947-1955
The Diary of Anaïs Nin, Vol. 6: 1955-1966
The Diary of Anaïs Nin, Vol. 7: 1966-1974

"Never make fun of someone if they mispronounce a word.
It means they learned it by reading.� -Anonymous
You can see the quote on Twitter here:
I twittered the following comment under the quote:
"But I still had to laugh when my son's then girlfriend pronounced the composer Chopin's name as "choppin" (as in choppin' wood)."

Books mentioned in this topic
The Diary of Anaïs Nin, Vol. 2: 1934-1939 (other topics)The Diary of Anaïs Nin, Vol. 1: 1931-1934 (other topics)
The Diary of Anaïs Nin, Vol. 3: 1939-1944 (other topics)
The Diary of Anaïs Nin, Vol. 4: 1944-1947 (other topics)
The Diary of Anaïs Nin, Vol. 5: 1947-1955 (other topics)
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Authors mentioned in this topic
Richard Ford (other topics)Mickey Spillane (other topics)
Ernest Hemingway (other topics)