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This is the read for November.
We will be discussing this on Saturday December 7th (Sunday for NZ) 21:30 (GMT).

PLEASE SHARE your thoughts, feelings, desires, ideas for discussion here
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also:
1. DECEMBER read: Minority Report
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2. pls VOTE for January 2014 read:
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3. pls ADD suggestions for future reads: /group/books...

Hi! ON this link has the whole text?
It's a short story?
(I am reading .... but just to know)Thank U

Hola Glaucia!

Thanks for asking ~
Yes indeed: contains the whole text for Angela Slatter's 'I Love You Like Water.'

Slatter will be the first female author that we'll be #edcmchat-ting about! Might at least little points of difference?

If you have any themes, questions you would like to explore in the chat, please post them below.

Thanks

This short story looming up ahead of finishing EDCMOOC2 digital artefact had an influence in my wondering about the awareness of habitats and environments eg. in the short films of the MOOC. I've tabled it such: .

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'Human nature' topic (I've just added a topic list to our front page) in conditioning our living environment. What do we teach school children, or even at tertiary level, about it? Technical in-the-classroom/on-the-Internet or experiential?

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How does Nature, the environment, and understandings of production and/or supply chain processes (eg. for food and other products/services) come into play re: elearning & digital cultures? ie. sociomaterialism definition eg. ). At least one example of sociotechnical interminglings in the story.

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As a female author, Slatter brings a different tone to add to the body of works we've read thus far, all male authors.

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Has anyone else finished reading it yet? Thoughts to share for this weekend's chat?

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Floating an idea: I created to experiment with documenting Edcmooc Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ #edcmchat; also to find a way that we can collectively create a visual (& even video) gallery in relation to our reading (time-willing). Both Pinterest & Tumblr require email invites (co-contributors need to create Tumblr accounts); but Tumblr's more fluid with tagging presence & video play.

Hi Ping, not read it yet - will get back to you
K

(Being the last Edcmooc Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ #edcmchat for 2013:)
Sketch of possible question ideas floating in mind (please add/change/adjust as you choose):

1. How might/does this story differ (for you) from previous ones we've chatted about (any one)?
* A.Slatter's I Love You Like Water &/vs
1) W.Morris' News From Nowhere
2) V.Vinge's Rainbow's End
3) E.M.Forster's The Machine Stops
4) A.Huxley's Island
5) C.Doctorow's Little Brother & Homeland
6) P.K.Dick's We Can Remember It For You Wholesale
7) A.Reynold's Great Wall Of Mars
(portraits & story-related imagery available in )
Or if you couldn't make it to previous ones, what did you think about this story when you were reading it &/or after?

2. What relevances does this story bring out in relation to the themes & topics of Edcmooc?
(Listed in /group/show/....)

3. How real are the tensions between human life/life/livelihoods, use of technology, and habitat between the story and 'real' life? How near-future might they or the story's situation/circumstances be?
(eg. this table illustrates my sketch of habitats/environment/Nature portrayed in the recent edcmooc2 short films: might be a helpful visual aid?)

4. How best to teach/learn about (the importance of) water and life-supporting systems (natural/technical/technological) in schools/universities/communities/etc.?
(eg. Technical in-the-classroom/on-the-Internet or experiential?)

5. How does Nature, the environment, and understandings of production and/or supply chain processes (eg. for food and other products/services) come into play re: elearning & digital cultures? ie. sociomaterialism definition eg. ...). At least one example of sociotechnical interminglings in the story.

We only need 4 questions; 5 above. Please mix/match/edit/re-pack! as tingles your fancy.

This story had a few surprises!

Ping, your questions are spot on.

The main theme for me was how fragile our technical innovations are in the face of nature, and how humans have always seeked to have some control or impact on it - through eg. farming, sacrifice, technical solutions - and the tensions this has (Q3) with how we want to live.

There were elements of Brave New World in there too - the lower classes being used to produce water for the rich - a metaphor for globalisation perhaps?

Sorry, I've not helped with the questions much - happy to joint moderate with you though and will pop on later to see what others have put.
K

Gotta get around to Brave New World one day; oh dear sounds even darker than I've imagined it to be.

Yes please K! I imagine today's #edcmchat might be fluid; quite a nice change, kinda like a previous chat where questions weren't totally fixed; more leeway for a bit more organic conversational flow. Don't know how many people might turn up.

Backup just in case (what with Saturday busynesses):

Q1 What struck you most about this story? Any differences from or parallels with previous stories we've chatted about on #edcmchat so far?

Q2 What #edcmooc themes/topics do u find #edcmchat interesting from @AngelaSlatter's ILYLW? eg technical innovations<>nature now<>future etc

Q3 What relevances do these #edcmooc items we've just raised in #edcmchat have in relation to elearning & digital cultures or in your field?

Q4 What would you wish for 2014? (given all we've talked about in today's #edcmchat & tis our last chat for 2013!)

The novel reminds me of "Pumzi", a short dystopian movie from Kenya :
One of the questions I see there, is how spirituality and science are bound together to forge the future.

Thanks +Stephane I was thinking along the same lines. The connections between spirituality and science were intriguing.

For me it was also one of the darker stories we read. I couldn't get the creepy images of the "water factory" out of my head for a few days.

I wanted to discuss the link between humanities desire to control (environment, technology, each other) with the spiritual side- a belief that there is power outside ourselves that is greater. Who was "right" in this story?

I'm not sure if I'll be able to make it- Chat is at 1:30pm my time and may be out and about with family doing Christmas shopping.

If I can I'll check in on my phone.

Gosh Stephane & Rick: glaringly obvious! Sorry missed this key point; Thanks! Will check out vid later (breakfast & a cuppa 1st) & happy family out-and-abouts.

Q adaptations:

Q2 Who was 'right': humanity in desiring control (environment, technology, each other) or belief there's a greater power outside ourselves?

Q3 Science & spirituality � what tensions & how might these influence the future of elearning & digital cultures / (in) your field?