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message 51: by Andrea (new)

Andrea | 3465 comments Looks like the Space channel has picked it up in Canada, at least I won't need to subscribe to any special service (not that I would have bothered to do that). It helps a little to make for the fact I'm not able to get my hands on American Gods...though only a little.


message 52: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 68 comments I love Star Trek.
I grew up watching Voyager on its original run. I watched TNG reruns whenever I could and spent what felt like forever as a teen saving up to buy the seasons on DVD. Despite my myriad issues with it, I even eventually got into Enterprise.

I will not, however, subscribe to CBS All Access for this.
1. I'm not paying whatever it is a month for essentially one series. Not happening.
2. I have been seriously underwhelmed by every preview/promo/trailer/interview/etc that they have given us for it. Not a single one has motivated me to be interested.
3. Don't even get me started on the Klingons. Just don't.

I was so excited when the first rumors of a new Star Trek series started circulating. I am beyond disappointed with what the reality has turned out to be.


message 53: by [deleted user] (last edited Sep 22, 2017 08:47AM) (new)

Star Trek: Discovery premiers on CBS this Sunday. The first episode will be broadcast on CBS as well as streamed. (It'll be after live NFL football in many eastern US cities, so if you're recording it, allow a little slippage.)

Thereafter you'll need to pay up for streaming to watch the rest of the series on a weekly basis.


message 54: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) Not bad at all. Hate that episode two crushed my biggest enjoyment in episode one.


message 55: by Mike (new)

Mike (mikekeating) | 242 comments Well, it wasn't total garbage. The Klingons were awful. The plot angle of having the lead character be Sarek's adopted daughter was forced and unnecessary. The uniforms looked ridiculous; I would have preferred a little continuity with TOS (although this is closer to Pike's time than Kirk's). Someone should have pointed out to them that in those days, every ship had a separate insignia.

But the actors did a very good job. And I did like the effects.


message 56: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) | 2369 comments I guess we won't see it any time soon. our Internet doesn't support streaming. It looked like we caught it on the DVR, but a football game pushed everything late, so we caught Oprah on 60 minutes instead. Why is the DVR based on time rather than the show? Decades ago our VCR could record based on the show. It's not that difficult to manage.
:(


message 57: by Kivrin (new)

Kivrin | 542 comments I enjoyed the first episode. The captain didn't thrill me, but I liked the science officer and Sonequa was great. But I'm still not paying to watch the show!


message 58: by [deleted user] (new)

Jim wrote: "I guess we won't see it any time soon. our Internet doesn't support streaming. It looked like we caught it on the DVR, but a football game pushed everything late,..."

I did warn people about the football. I'd have thought you'd be far enough west to avoid that, but I guess you're central daylight saving time.


message 59: by [deleted user] (new)

Silvana wrote: "Not bad at all. Hate that episode two crushed my biggest enjoyment in episode one."

So, did you subscribe to CBS All Access via a proxy, or is it on normal cable where you are?


message 60: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) | 2369 comments G33z3r wrote: "I did warn people about the football. I'd have thought you'd be far enough west to avoid that, but I guess you're central daylight saving time."

I set the DVR because I never remember to check the TV at any specific time. I rarely know what time it is save by the sun once I leave work.

We're on Eastern time, but the far west side of it. Very far west. There's 45 minutes difference in the sun between us & my mother who lives in central MD, about a full hour with my son in RI. I wish we were on Central time. It's light way too late here & gets light way too late in the mornings.


message 61: by [deleted user] (last edited Oct 25, 2017 06:34AM) (new)

Afer six episodes, CBS has renewed Star Trek: Discovery for a 2nd season. (According to Hollywood Reporter, season 2 likely won't return until 2019.)



Apparently somebody signed up for CBS All Access.


message 62: by Andrea (new)

Andrea | 3465 comments Or its us Canadians that are giving it its viewers since we get it on a regular cable channel with no streaming service to sign up for? :)


message 63: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 68 comments G33z3r wrote: "Afer six episodes, CBS has renewed Star Trek: Discovery for a 2nd season. (According to Hollywood Reporter, season 2 likely won't return until 2019.)

TVGuide article

Apparently somebody signed up..."


I think its more CBS isn't willing to admit this was a bad idea. I haven't seen many comments from people who actually like the show.


message 64: by Andrea (new)

Andrea | 3465 comments I haven't actually watched it yet, been collecting them on my PVR for now.


message 65: by nx74defiant (new)

nx74defiant | 23 comments I think its more CBS isn't willing to admit this was a bad idea. I haven't seen many comments from people who actually like the show

What else do they have? The only other original show I've heard of on the CBS all access is the Good Life (a Good Wife spinoff).


message 66: by [deleted user] (new)

Well, Star Trek: Discovery is now out on DVD, and I've binged it. I'm sad to say I thought it was very good (sad because I'm still not signing up for CBS All-Access.) I liked the new characters, and the production values were amazing for a "TV show". (It kind of sits somewhere between a big movie and a "mere" TV show.)

It's tonally more serious than previous Star Trek incarnations. No Spock/McCoy interaction, no Ferengi, no Robo-Pinocchio, no wisecracking crew members. I liked that. It included a prequel Harry Mudd, and they even made him more seriously bad news.

And it has a single story told through the 15 episodes, instead of the planet-of-the-week format.

Odd to tie Sonequa Martin-Green (Michael Burnham) to Sarek, but then Season 2 will apparently include Spock under Capt Pike, too.


message 67: by Laura (new)

Laura | 12 comments I didn't mind the connection that much, but in my opinion James Frain lacked a kind of gravitas to be Sarek... Yes, the character's younger but I was somewhat underwhelmed by his interpretation (then again, he was going against Lenard there). And apparently season 2 will be lighter? I am looking forward to that, I have yo say :)


message 68: by [deleted user] (new)

Well, I binged Season 2 of Star Trek: Discovery.

Re-imagining Spock's youth was a bold choice, as was filling in Capt Pike's backstory, though they seemed to want to somehow maintain the original series's canon.

Expensive production values (though often kind of frivolous: a fight scene in an area where the artificial gravity was haywire must have required building a small set that they could rotate; was it really worth the eye candy?)

Time travel in stories are almost always a plotting jumble. Sadly I found the 2-part climax a muddled, maudlin mess.


message 69: by Tony (new)

Tony Calder (tcsydney) | 1008 comments Season 2 was much closer to Star Trek than season 1. Continuity and canon is always a problem when they set a series in the past of prior series. The big question is, who thought is was necessary to redesign Klingons again??


message 70: by Andrea (new)

Andrea | 3465 comments The Klingon redesign of the first season made feel I wasn't even watching Star Trek but some other series that just stole all the terminology. Second season was much better in that regard (though wasn't sure how I felt about their Spock storyline and occasionally had to struggle to see how certain events fit into the original Trek storyline...) but I'm interested to see where the third season goes, that one looks like it will be the most free of any existing constraints.

It is definitely tough to stick to canon and existing storylines while still coming up with something new. At least the movies made it explicit that they messed with the timeline, changed the past, and now they are free to do whatever they want since it's a completely different path.


message 71: by Bryan (new)

Bryan | 310 comments Tony wrote: "The big question is, who thought is was necessary to redesign Klingons again??"

As I understand, the Klingons' new look was an idea of Bryan Fuller who then exited the series. Since most fans were not happy with the new look, it's possible they changed the Klingons again as a sort of damage control.


Andrea wrote: "It is definitely tough to stick to canon and existing storylines while still coming up with something new."

I agree, that's my biggest complaint about Discovery. I don't get why the last two Trek shows went the prequel way, it's just way too constraining. Best case scenario, you get a contrived explanation as to why that tech/species/event was never mentioned in the other shows. Just do a proper sequel!


G33z3r wrote: "Expensive production values (though often kind of frivolous: a fight scene in an area where the artificial gravity was haywire must have required building a small set that they could rotate; was it really worth the eye candy?)"

I thought that scene was really cool, so I'm going to vote "yes" :)


message 72: by [deleted user] (new)

Bryan wrote: "I thought that scene was really cool, so I'm going to vote "yes" :) ..."

OK, I stand corrected. (Since gravity is on the fritz, I may be standing on the ceiling. :)

The most recent Star Trek movies did a "artificial gravity is malfunctioning" fight scene, too; naturally with a bigger budget & set.


Bryan wrote: "Best case scenario, you get a contrived explanation as to why that tech/species/event was never mentioned in the other shows. :) ..."

Well, they did take an awkward stab at that.



I did like the way they teased Spock thru the first 5 episodes. Are we going to see him? Or, will they just be searching for him? (I suppose if I'd read the casting news I wouldn't have wondered; there is something to be said for ignorance.)


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