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I'm thinking about reading this.

A grown up Harry Potter?

Oh, HELL no, lol.

Just read it without any preconceived comparisons. There really aren't any that are on point.

Yes, the whole plot and story is an allegory to the Harry Potter series. There are rumors that "Patrick Rothfuss" is just another one of J.K Rowlings pen names.

Robert Gailbraith, Patrick Rothfuss..see the pattern??

I don't think this is grown-up Harry Potter. Yes, the protagonist is a wizard and he goes to school, but that's really the end of the similarities. The magic is completely different and actually believable. It's not the focus of the novel either. This is absolutely one of the best fantasy novels I've ever read. It is totally absorbing.

No, not really.

Nope. Totally different. The only thing is the fact he's a wizard. More like Lotr and Got mixed together.

What I mean is the epic legend background of Lotr and some gritty adult content like GoT.

Hannah wrote: "What I mean is the epic legend background of Lotr and some gritty adult content like GoT."

Really, sounds good. I only asked if this to find out if the school element was good like harry potter.

It's like Harry Potter in that there is a magic academy in the book, but that's where the similarities end.

For grown up Harry Potter try The Magicians. All of the sex, ennui and existentialism of post modern, bohemian characters wrapped up in a Harry Potter-esque college of magic and journey into magical dimensions.

I'd say Kvothe's more of a "Bad Ass Harry Potter."

Eh, I personally think Kvothe's a way deeper and more real character than Harry, and the "Magic Academy" is the only exact similarity.

this is basically harry potter

both characters aren't able to do anything wrong, bother characters excel at the things they want to be good at, both characters have friends willing to do anything for them (literally how)

other than both characters having no depth the story's aren't similar, also don't listen to some of these people, it does not have lotr world building, seeing as the author has shown us like 4 places and talked about less, neither does it have any kind of grittiness nor gore.

People need to stop making this book out to have everything, it had enough of everything to make it seem interesting, however not enough of anything to make me enjoy it.

If you're looking for something you know you enjoy in fantasy you're better off looking for a series that gives you a lot of it, this series promised a lot and gave absolutely nothing.

of course that's my opinion and i'm sure i'll get railed on

If you ever thought to yourself
"I like Harry Potter but would Love it if it had an epic chapter about horse bartering and page after page dedicated to elf sex "
then this could be the book for you

This is a GOOD book that you will not regret reading. It's funny and beautifully written.

Will you like it as much as the buzz might suggest? Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe more. But one thing you absolutely under no circumstances do (something that plagues this book's readers particularly) is that you should not like it any less just because you didn't love it as much as people who buzz about it.

I will say this. It's not your typical fantasy structurally speaking. If you're expecting cohesive three act format or grand scale politicking, you're going to be disappointed. This is more about what it really means to live in a fantasy world, while at the same time being chocked full of action, intrigue, and laughs.

No, this is completely different from Harry Potter. This comparison between Harry Potter and every other fantasy ever written is only made by people who read Harry Potter and nothing else from fantasy genre...because there is "like magic and school and stuff" so it must be just like Harry Potter.

Best advise i can give u Michael is take a couple of reviews from the bottom....and couple from the top and maybe a few from outside good reads. Maybe check how the user who wrote that review feel about some of you favourite books, if their views and yours match then generally you can trust a recommendation.
Jacks advise is sound. Personally I dont see how this compares to something like lord of the rings (very limited world scope, very little sense of greater threat) or game of thrones (pretty much no politicking unless you count school discipline and only a solo POV) but it is a pretty enjoyable read. Maybe just download a free sample from amazon or something and see if it grabs you.

It's difficult for me to see how KK could be classed as a YA fantasy.

this whole thread is basically "kk is like 'x' because i read both of them and they're terrific"

KK isn't like anything i've read before, mainly however because i finished it just to see how much i would end up hating kvothe.

but really the best way to tell if you'd like this book is by asking yourself if you think of yourself as elite because you enjoy fantasy. If so, you'll love this book, it has the cliche, generic, small world, no threat, self-absorbed character, terrible romantic interests and goes absolutely no where.

The best part is, Patrick Rothfuss (author) is highly comparable to George R Martin. If you love waiting years for books and hearing about your authors latest adventures instead of actually writing the books you will love the KK chronicles.

Its still a step above the rabid fangirl reviews along the lines of
"omg bast and Kvothe are so KAWAII !!!!"

Michael wrote: "Hannah wrote: "What I mean is the epic legend background of Lotr and some gritty adult content like GoT."

Really, sounds good. I only asked if this to find out if the school element was good like ..."

In my opinion yes. It was good. It has some scenes that are definitely not good for kiddies. The ending got a little slow and boring and the female character isn't that special but its still well written and very original.

Lily wrote: "No, this is completely different from Harry Potter. This comparison between Harry Potter and every other fantasy ever written is only made by people who read Harry Potter and nothing else from fant..."

True. It's not a good comparison.

Um, no.

I've actually referred to this book in other posts as "Harry Potter: The College Years". I don't read YA and I haven't read the Harry Potter books so I don't know if that description really stands up to scrutiny - it's more based on my perception of what the HP books are are like.

I was not a fan of the story itself in TNotW, but I do think PR's writing is terrific, so I'm torn on whether to continue the series. Just don't let yourself be influenced by the title of the series and expect any gritty George R.R. Martin type stuff. From what I can tell from the first book, there's a whole lot of lute-playing, and no trace of any king-killing.

No, not like Harry Potter. And I like that comment Lily - you are right. Harry Potter is mainstream - everything is compared to it because that's what people know.

On another note...it's starting to seem like there are two types of fantasy people in the world: those who like Tolkien and those who don't. If you do like Tolkien, you'll probably like Ursula K LeGuin. If you don't, you'll probably like this book and GoT.

I loved Tolkien. I love these books.

Probably both appeal to me because I tend to read literary fiction more than any other type of book, though.

Hannah wrote: "What I mean is the epic legend background of Lotr and some gritty adult content like GoT."

Lotr and Got what books are they from?"

I dont think there was not all that much in comon in these books with Harry Potter. Harry remained largely the same person true aut the series, but Kvoute constantly chenges himself. First he is traveling mugician, then streat beger, then student at university then fighter and apperantly he ends up as a tavern ovner. What will he be next.

ive only read the first 3 HP books and surprisingly enjoy them but that cant be said for NotW.

If you want to read a grown up Harry Potter, read The Magicians by Lev Grossman.

If you go into NotW expecting a light fantasy adventure, you're going to get bogged down. It falls more within the realm of literary fiction that just happens to be set in a different world.

Renee wrote: "If you go into NotW expecting a light fantasy adventure, you're going to get bogged down. It falls more within the realm of literary fiction that just happens to be set in a different world."

Aside from in terms of How well Pat handles his Prose what would you say makes this Literary fiction ?

Its more like an evolution of Harry Potter books.

I personally don't understand the meaning of "literary fiction", essentially every fantasy novel is literary fiction seeing as each author has their own set writing style set in their own fictional world.

Idcboobs wrote: "I personally don't understand the meaning of "literary fiction", essentially every fantasy novel is literary fiction seeing as each author has their own set writing style set in their own fictional..."

Literary fiction generally is fiction that defies inclusion into genre category's. They offer deliberate commentary on larger social issues, political issues, or focus on the individual to explore some part of the human condition.
Generally the characterization is geared towards introspection, prose style is generally layered and very purple, tone is generally more serious and pacing slower than genre fiction.
Secondary definition calls for it to be something written for the sake of publication rather than for profit.

Marc wrote: "Idcboobs wrote: "I personally don't understand the meaning of "literary fiction", essentially every fantasy novel is literary fiction seeing as each author has their own set writing style set in th..."

how does that fit into KK?

Well its pacing is slow so Check and the prose is rather purple so check two.
But it doesn't really address any big social issues unless magic fixes everything and don't sing songs about demons in-case they happen to hear you and ruin your life are everyday worries, Kvothes introspection doesn't really give us anything more than "should have really thought that through" or "I needed that so I guessed i was entitled to it".

It's not similar to Harry Potter and the second book is like among the worst books ever pointless tangents .

Dimitar wrote: "It's not similar to Harry Potter and the second book is like among the worst books ever pointless tangents ."
I'm confused, you say wise mans fear is one of the worse books ever and still give it three stars.

Marc wrote: "Dimitar wrote: "It's not similar to Harry Potter and the second book is like among the worst books ever pointless tangents ."
I'm confused, you say wise mans fear is one of the worse books ever and..."
The prose is good and liked the Ctaeh plot and i should change the rating to 2

The worst book you've ever read gets a 2 star ("it was okay") rating? You must be very good at avoiding bad books:-)

Dimitar wrote: "Marc wrote: "Dimitar wrote: "It's not similar to Harry Potter and the second book is like among the worst books ever pointless tangents ."
I'm confused, you say wise mans fear is one of the worse b..."

I'm just saying a 3 star rating is by good-reads standards is "like it", even a 2 star is Okay, but something you call one of the worst book ever still gets a better rating books that you thought were okay.
Basically its like having a meal that made you feel sick and then recommending it to a friend.
Maybe you like it more when you first rated it, maybe its not so bad after all.

"The worst book you've ever read gets a 2 star ("it was okay") rating? You must be very good at avoiding bad books:-) "

The worse book I ever read was Tyra banks - Modelland....its was on a bet, I still have no idea what it was actually about.

Marc wrote: "Dimitar wrote: "Marc wrote: "Dimitar wrote: "It's not similar to Harry Potter and the second book is like among the worst books ever pointless tangents ."
I'm confused, you say wise mans fear is on..."

Not the worst book but it's bad and this ŷ������ ratings starts are not efficient so i don't go by it

Im tempted to mail you my old copies of Sword of Truth and Model land can you can experiences truly bad books....it will reset your entire grading curve.

Patrick Rothfuss and J K Rowling - totally different style. Of course it is not a grown up Harry Potter.

Marc wrote: "Im tempted to mail you my old copies of Sword of Truth and Model land can you can experiences truly bad books....it will reset your entire grading curve."

That why i didn't gave it one star

The university sections and the laborious learning of magic skills, the class rivalries and snobbery echo Harry Potter very tightly, but the larger world and adventures of Kvothe do not recall Potter at all. This series is frustrating, for it wanders like a madman, rewarding at times for some really tight storytelling at certain points, and maddening because in the end, after a monstrously long second book, very little indeed has actually occurred. It still has the best preface I think I've ever read for a novel, with fantastic prose that is not matched anywhere else in the book, but its promise is enough to keep you reading hoping he has another flash of genius.

Marc wrote: "If you ever thought to yourself
"I like Harry Potter but would Love it if it had an epic chapter about horse bartering and page after page dedicated to elf sex " then this could be the book for you"

Hahahah so true, and page after page of fight training and "you know nothing, John Snow" in the "everything is inverted and confusing for no good reason"-martial society

Mckennadj wrote: "It's like Harry Potter in that there is a magic academy in the book, but that's where the similarities end.

For grown up Harry Potter try The Magicians. All of the sex, ennui and e..."

Agreed. I have read the whole series and if you like Narnia and Harry Potter this is definitely heavily based on those books.

Ansis wrote: "Hannah wrote: "What I mean is the epic legend background of Lotr and some gritty adult content like GoT."

Lotr and Got what books are they from?""

Lord of the rings and Game of Thrones. Sorry about the abbreviations but the titles are kind of long.

I didn't enjoy it quite as much as HP, as most people have said, wizards, parents dying, magic school, that's about it with similarities. My uncle told me it rivaled Lord of the Rings, I hardly agree. I think it's hard to come across any fantasy book that won't have at least one part that will remind you of another novel, and this goes for any genre. Authors from hundreds, even thousands of years ago have their stories recycled daily. It's nearly impossible to have an entirely original plot, because everyone is influenced or inspired by something, even if subconsciously. Even the Bible heavily influenced Harry Potter, and the Chronicles of Narnia. So, I thought it had elements similar to these novels, but it was its own story overall

This is not an intricated story filled with adventures, is a very plain an linear ploth. It is, as Tad Williams wrote, more about what the author has to say about the little things of everyday life. It's slow reading, it's fun, but it's not for all type of readers. I can understand that some people find it empty!!!