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message 1: by Roan (last edited Nov 09, 2014 02:16PM) (new)

Roan | 1 comments Hi guys,


Books that has gaming element on them. I prefer books about MMORPG. You know, with mages, warriors, archers, guilds etc. :))

I've read Ready Player One and I loved it! I want to read more books like that. Any suggestions?


message 2: by Michele (new)

Michele Well, Epic by Conor Kostick is a lot of fun, but it is a YA level book, in case that matters to you. I think there are two sequels I haven't gotten around to reading yet.

Reamde by Neal Stephenson has some MMO elements.

Also, Daemon and Freedom? by Daniel Suarez has a lot of MMO elements - in fact sometimes it's a bit like an MMO taking over real life, not the elves and such, but the mechanics of gaming, the social aspects.


message 3: by Carson (new)

Carson Kicklighter (thekicklighter) | 19 comments Michele wrote: "Reamde by Neal Stephenson has some MMO elements."

I was really disappointed by Reamde. I bought it thinking that the MMO parts would be central to the plot, like cyberpunk was central to Snow Crash, but it just turned out to be a thriller where they play an MMO occasionally.

Anyway, City of Golden Shadow by Tad Williams is the first in a four-part series about a huge virtual world with a conspiracy behind it. There's a few MMO-specific bits at the beginning, but it quickly turns into general virtual reality stuff.

Yahtzee Croshaw from Zero Punctuation wrote Mogworld a while ago, which I think is about an MMO. I've never read it, and Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ reviews look mixed.

David Barr Kirtley wrote a neat short story about an MMO bleeding into real life called "Save Me Plz," available for free at his .

Also, not a book, but you'd probably enjoy the anime , which is about people getting trapped in an MMO. It has guilds, dungeons, leveling up, raid bosses, the whole gamut.


message 4: by Trike (new)

Trike I haven't read it, but isn't Tad Williams' Otherland series about an MMO that's taking over people's lives? City of Golden Shadow is the first one.


message 5: by Mustafa (new)

Mustafa | 12 comments You could try Sword Art Online 1: Aincrad
It's a light novel that started the anime with the same name. A light novel is like the japanese equivalent of a YA novel I think.
It's about a guy who plays a virtual reality MMORPG but then gets stuck in it. There are bad guys, guilds, pvp, pve and etc.


message 6: by Aaron (last edited Nov 10, 2014 07:53AM) (new)

Aaron Nagy | 510 comments Warning about SAO that I always give; the Aincrad arc is good but Fairy Dance is bad and throws off the character development so much I recommend that everyone skip it and go straight to Phantom Bullet...or Alicization if you don't like Phantom Bullet either. This goes for both the anime and the books.

You could also read Accel World by the same author I feel it's better as a whole.

Log Horizon, Vol. 1 is good too, it's a bit more empire building and backroom deals then pretty much every other halp stuck in MMO book. Everyone I know seems to either love it or go meh boring. I would almost compare it to what if David Weber was Japanese and wrote a trapped in a MMORPG light novel series.

Most other MMORPGish books I can think of either fall off at the end like 1/2 Prince. Or the translation quality is too poor that it would be very jarring if your not used to reading translations. Well outside of the obvious ones mentioned here like Epic.


PS: Make sure you get the books not the manga for all of those above series sometimes places can be less then clear about which one it is.


message 7: by Rob (new)

Rob (robzak) | 876 comments Try Off to Be the Wizard, especially in audio.

If you like WoW, and are fairly caught up with the lore I found War Crimes pretty good.


message 8: by Damien (new)

Damien Lake | 38 comments Trike wrote: "I haven't read it, but isn't Tad Williams' Otherland series about an MMO that's taking over people's lives? City of Golden Shadow is the first one."


No, it's not, though from early promotional descriptions I can see why you thought so. This has always been one of my recommended books for fantasy people who want to try some sci-fi, or vice versa. This series is the perfect example of lines being blurred; is it sci-fi, or is it fantasy? Hard to say.

Anyway, a brief summary. In the not so terribly distant future, the internet has grown to the point where fully immersive 3d virtual environments are the normal way of experiencing the web, from browsing a virtual mega-mall to watching a children's tv show as part of the actual episode. But all over the world, children are suddenly being struck down, falling into unexplainable comas. A few educated netphiles scattered all over the globe are beginning to suspect the online world itself is somehow at the root of it all. Their individual investigations will bring them close to each other in virtual space, but also straight into the heart of imminent peril.

Tad Williams does an amazing job of creating a sci-fi world that is realistic enough to be extremely believable. Rather than just blindly throwing around virtual reality jargon to make it sound good, he presents a vision that is based on actual technology and a solid prediction about the direction such technology is heading. Also, he is skilled at creating large cadres of characters and having each character sound unique. This is anything but easy for an author to achieve. I've always recommended this series, and having recently re-read it, I still recommend it. Despite all the leaps in progress we have achieved since Williams wrote it, The Otherland series is still a captivating vision of the future that has withstood the test of time.

Or so I feel, at any rate. :)


Liam || Books 'n Beards (madbird) Carson wrote: "Yahtzee Croshaw from Zero Punctuation wrote Mogworld a while ago, which I think is about an MMO. I've never read it, and Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ reviews look mixed."

I've read it, it was okay, definitely not fantastic.


message 10: by Michael (new)

Michael Aron My personal favorite in this sub-genre atm is AlterWorld and The Clan with more books to follow of this series in 2015!


message 11: by §¬¸é³Ü²õ (new)

§¬¸é³Ü²õ | 1 comments One more book in LitRPG genre


World of Valdira
A huge world full of adventures, ancient mysteries and monsters starving for your death. A world where everyone can make their biggest dream come true and become anyone they wish ¨C a successful trader, a wise anchorite, a brave warrior or a battle mage who can control disastrous elemental powers. But don¡¯t expect that the path to your dream will be easy and rosy. The path to the top is very long, if only you can ever reach it.


message 12: by Smilla's Sister (last edited Jul 12, 2015 06:36AM) (new)

Smilla's Sister (smillassister) | 10 comments I second AlterWorld and the rest of the Play to Live series. Other similar books from Russian MMORPG authors are Survival Quest and Edge of Reality. Thanks about World of Valdira, I'll have to look it up. I think you mean this one: The Way of the Clan.


message 13: by Aaron (last edited Jul 13, 2015 10:36AM) (new)

Aaron Nagy | 510 comments I havn't gotten around to AlterWorld yet, but if I remember right it's another LMS style book acquire skills level up do things, to the point where many of the systems of that world are straight ripped from it and the author listed it as an inspiration. This subgenre of VRMMO that I have been calling progression VRMMO as it's so focused on getting new skills and grinding things up has exploded recently in web-serials. The favorite one of it I read was ¶Ü¤ÎÓÂÕߤγɤêÉϤ¬¤ê 1, but the webserials quality dropped around the 5-6th arc to the point where in the book version I know he did massive rewrites...but those books havn't been translated yet. The first 2 are being translated officially this year, but it's by some company I don't recognize.

edit: LMS stands for Legendary Moonlight Sculptor that as far as I can tell pioneered this subgenre, and has like 40+ books or something insane. I read up to like volume 18 of the fan-translations.


message 14: by Monica (new)

Monica (monicae) | 510 comments I'm not much of a gamer. Everything I know about MMORPG I learned from Reamde by Neal Stephenson. I now know more than I thought I would and I find it fascinating...


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Aaron Nagy | 510 comments One thing I always find interesting is how in many other cultures PKing is looked down upon. Where in the States and West at least PKing is a large part of the game.


MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 2207 comments Isn't the guy who wrote Ready Player One releasing a new book - also game based?


message 17: by Lexxi Kitty (last edited Jul 13, 2015 12:21PM) (new)

Lexxi Kitty (lexxikitty) | 141 comments The Dream Park series by Larry Niven & Steven Barnes were the first I'd read like this here. There it's . . um, LRP . . LRRG? Bah. LARP? Live action role-playing? Something like that. Book came out in 1986. Followed by The Barsoom Project, California Voodoo Game, The Moon Maze Game.

Steppe by Piers Anthony is another gaming like one, though further away from a wizards and magic type MMORP.

Shesh. All mine are LARPs. Simon Hawke's two book Psychodrome series being another.

The closest I've read, not counting ones already mentioned in this thread, would be Killobyte - another one by Piers Anthony.


message 18: by A.L. (new)

A.L. Butcher (alb2012) | 76 comments There are several Warhammer books, ditto 40k. Also I can recommend the Dragon Age books.The Stolen Throne, The Calling


message 19: by Papaphilly (new)

Papaphilly You might want to try Hobgoblin by John Coyne. It is a gamer novel set in the D&D world. Tons of fun, but might be a bit hard to find. I read it thirty years ago and never have forgotten the book.


message 20: by Smilla's Sister (last edited Jul 24, 2015 07:54AM) (new)

Smilla's Sister (smillassister) | 10 comments The latest addition: Start The Game, a brand-new LitRPG novel that opens the new Galactogon series by Russian author V. Mahanenko: Start The Game (Galactogon, #1) by Vasily Mahanenko


message 21: by Aaron (new)

Aaron Nagy | 510 comments Okay so LitRPG is the term that is being coined now, to cover all the fantasy/sci-fi/whatever that the world seems to act like an RPG.

I'm surprised I havn't seen that before on any of the boards.


message 22: by Aaron (new)

Aaron Nagy | 510 comments I got a new one it's a webnovel so free.

Continue Online

It's the fairly near future and virtual reality has really taken over as the primary form of entertainment. The main character is middle-aged doesn't play games he is a work-a-holic which he uses to take his mind off his wife's death which threw him into a suicidal depression. He won a copy of a limited edition version of the big VR game and was told to take a week off of work, when he enters the world he quickly discovers that the Voices(like gods of that VR world) don't treat their world like it's a game because to them it's all deadly serious. It's a tough one to describe without really dropping big spoilers or ruining the way something is revealed but a friend showed it to me recently and I'm thoroughly impressed.


message 23: by Arah (new)

Arah Mclaughlin (arahmclaughlin) | 4 comments my boyfriend loves all the warcraft books =3


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