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. Week 1: More Than 500 Pages > Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoyevsky

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Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) I have had Crime and Punishment for maybe a year now just sitting around my bookshelf. I've decided to read it now because I finished recently Dostoyevsky's The Idiot and I really loved it! I hope I feel the same way about this one :)


Abhishek | 25 comments If you loved The Idiot, you definitely will love this. Raskolnikov (the protagonist) is one of the best characters I've ever read. If I had already not read this, I would totally read it.


Jessy (jollybookshelf) I had to read this story in high school. I despised it but mainly because I couldn't understand it (bad reason, I know).


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) Abhishek - I've only read The Gambler and The Idiot from Dostoevsky but I loved them both so I'm sure I'll enjoy this one aswell. I'm planing to read The Brothers Karamazov too. In my edition of The Idiot there were plenty of notes concerning Raskolnikov which also sparked my curiosity!

Jessica - You should give it another try! Or at least another novel by Dostoevsky, it's really great. Though I can relate to you, there were some authors I had to read in high school (hello Saramago, José!) that only enjoyed after reading different books.


Pedro  Figueiredo (pedroaugustofigueiredo) Well, I never get into Russian literature before, but I will join you in this. (I'm brazilian too and I didn't like the translations, but I find a good one for Crime and Punishment), I've heard a lot about this book and I'm so exciting to star this.


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) The book I have is actually translated in english by Constance Garnett. I've been stressing a lot about translations lately, I wish I woke up knowing how to read russian and handful of other languages!

I'm glad you're joining me on this one, can't wait to discuss it with you (I'm portuguese by the way :))!


Abhishek | 25 comments Adriana, I've earmarked The Brothers Karamzov for my "Book that you've started and never completed" week. Even though Ivan Karamzov figures pretty high in my list of favourite characters ever, I haven't ever finished that monster of a book.

I can't wait to see how you guys like this book!


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Jenna Definitely on my list! I have a seemingly random translation- Oliver Ready? I liked the cover and it wasn't Constance Garnett so I went with it!


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) When I bought it I didn't pay the slightest attention to who did the translation. Translations were something I only worried about once in awhile but I became more conscious about it after reading about new Anna Karenina translations. Do you happen to have a favorite russian-to-english translator? I'll take every advice regarding it ahaha


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Jenna Currently reading Anna Karenina translation by Peaver and Volokhonaky, which seems to be considered "better" by a lot of people. I like it! But, it's the only Russian translation I've ever read, so I don't know how useful my opinion is!


Bana AZ (anabana_a) | 414 comments As old books go compared to new ones, it can be a little dragging, but it's still really likeable. I finished this book earlier this year as a requirement. It's an interesting look on bad decisions and its psychological effect on you.


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) Ana - I think I can say that a big part of the books I've read were written in the 19th century and in the first half of the 20th century, so it won't be a problem! What I do find fascinating about those books is exactly how things written in that time can still apply nowadays.


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Michelle (girlvsbook) | 403 comments Mod
This is probably just an odd stereotype I came up with in my head, but Russian literature has always seemed very heavy and bleak to me. Maybe that is why I've never felt compelled to read any. Fortunately for me, I was never assigned to any in high school or college, because I'm not sure I would have had the maturity to appreciate it back then. I am finding that many of the assigned books I disliked in high school and college have really grown on me since I've re-read them in my adult years. This might also be the case of Russian literature. I ought to give it a fair shake and see if my pesky preconceptions are out of line.


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) Elizabeth - You're welcome! I found it very interesting as well and worth sharing!

Michelle - Well, my mom and some teachers I had in high school, knowing how much I love reading, always pushed me to heavy literature since a young age (I remember some other teachers being "shocked" because I was reading Kafka at 14), so getting into russian literature was not hard for me. I would recommend starting with smaller books instead of jumping into +500 pages novels. Maybe start off with The Gambler (I think it was the first piece of Russian literature I read) by Dostoyevsky or The Kreutzer Sonata (one of my favorites books!) by Tolstoi.
Regarding high school books, the ones that I had to read for classes were almost always related to history. Over the years, I've discovered so many great Portuguese authors that would have made classes much more interesting!


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Michelle (girlvsbook) | 403 comments Mod
I think it was just the idea of being told what to read that really turned me off. I've always enjoyed reading but I would groan in disappointment whenever assigned readings were doled out. I preferred the book reports we were allowed to do on a book of our choosing.

Not Russian literature, but I remember reading Lord of the Flies in my freshman (high school) English class and being completely shocked that my teacher had liked my report so much. I really hated the book - it has gone down in history as the least liked of any assigned reading I've had. My report of it was very purposely glib. I even titled the portion about Jack, "Jack: Spawn of Satan" and I remember my teacher being delighted by that bit in particular. So much for my plan to encourage her not to force future classes to read it. ;)

I really should give it a re-read, I would probably like it much better. I would probably even like heavy, bleak Russian literature too if I stopped being such a baby about it and gave it a chance. I'll look into The Gambler, Adriana. It seems interesting and a like good place to start.


Shirley (godalminggirl) | 3 comments I read this book last year. I'm a bit of a lightweight reader, with minimal other reading of similar literature. But I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it. It is undoubtedly dark but I was intrigued with its exploration on the psychological effect of crime on the culprit.

I really hope you enjoy reading it over the next week or so!


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) Michelle - Ohhh I loved Lord of The Flies! Ahahah but I get what you mean about being told what to read. From 7th to 9th grade we had to do book reports on a book of our choosing but, unfortunately, that stopped in high school. Expressing our opinion on how much we disliked the books we were told to read was useless because they were all part of the national reading plan, so our teachers couldn't do much about it!

Shirley - I've already cracked it open and read a couple pages. It will probably take me over a week to finish it. Since my exams start this week and only finish around February this two first months will be very slow paced! But I'll catch up after that.

On a little side note, I got say that it's great being on this group (it's my first book club). I was already very excited to read this book but hearing everyone's opinions about it makes me even eager to read it! That goes the same for other books and authors, of course!


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Cris (cris_lectora) I'm reading this one too this week. I actually started it last summer but stopped due to lack of time, which I regret because I was loving it :) So I've done a quick re-read of what I had read and can't wait to keep going. It's my first Dostoyevsky, wish me luck!


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) That's great Cristina! I'm only about 20 pages into the book. Looking forward to discuss it with you!


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Pedro  Figueiredo (pedroaugustofigueiredo) I'm 65% done and I'm enjoying pretty much so far. The things really starts to happen near of the middle of the book, becaming a brilliant book. I was having problems with the names and all the nicknames but I think I finally get used to it.

Rodka is the most complex character I've ever got into in all my readings. I'm amazed with him and all the psycho stuff about the human behavior that Dostoyesvky get into in this book.

Sorry for any probably mistakes on my typing, I'm Brazilian.


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) Already?! Wow! I'm only about 10%, I still have so much to go.

My edition has a list of the characters in the beginning! It's really helpful. And, in some of the names, it has its origin. For example, for Raskólnikov, after he's full name you got "from raskol (schism, break asunder)". It's really nice.


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Kate | 3 comments Are there any translations that you recommend as I do want to read this one this year,. Thanks


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) The edition I'm reading was translated by Constance Garnett. I cannot recommend any translation in particular: the other Dostoevsky books I've read were either in Portuguese or also translated by Constance so I don't have something to compare. I guess the best advice would be from someone who knows Russian and English and has read both the original and the translations.


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Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) Well, I've read about 150 pages so far and I'm really enjoying the book! I've reached the point where I really don't want to put it down.

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On one of my book's notes it reads "[Alexander Pushkin's] short story The Queen of Spades is often cited as a source for Crime and Punishment." Has any of you read it? I think I might pick it up while/after reading the book.


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Cris (cris_lectora) I'm at 80% right now and the plan is to finish it today, because if it goes like it's been for the rest of the book, I'm not going to want to put it down until I'm done.

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I'm very curious to see how it will end.


Audrey G. Perreault (audrey_gperreault) | 7 comments Hi to all of you, Crime and Punishment readers!
Yesterday I decided to join the challenge. As I am also doing a "30 books you should read before you turn 30 years old" challenge, I'm trying to match the books as much as possible. Crime and punishment was on the "30 years old list" so here I am. I've read other Russian literature but always in a French translation (I'm a french Canadian). So this time, I'm trying to read an English one.
I've read 15% yesterday and I hope to be able to finish it in the next week but it's a little bit longer for me as I'm building my English vocab at the same time.
I really enjoy reading your comments! I remember how much I struggle with the names when I read War and peace a couple years ago. This time, I'm really careful with all the names and nicknames, and I don't have problems (the list of the characters really helps as well).


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Cris (cris_lectora) And I'm done! :D I absolutely loved it. What a great way to start the challenge. I'm looking forward to hearing the thoughts of everyone who's reading this.

@Audrey, it does take a bit to get used to the names/nicknames, but the more you read the easier it gets. I hope you enjoy the book!


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) Audrey - Books really helped me (and still do!) to improve my English vocab! It was movies and music to help me pronounce the words correctly and books to help me spell them correctly. I hope you like it!

Cristina - So glad you enjoyed it and so jealous that you already finished it! I have an exam Friday so I'll probably ended it over the weekend. I feel like throwing away my college books and just get back to my reading! It's being very hard ahaha


Pedro  Figueiredo (pedroaugustofigueiredo) I finished it yesterday. I haven't read more than a hundred books in my life, but this one is one of the best so far. What a deep and well-constructed character is Rodka.


Gwendolyn Cayad One of the best books I've read too, a real page-turner and worthy to be re-read in the future.


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) You should pick up The Idiot next Bikas!


Pedro  Figueiredo (pedroaugustofigueiredo) Adriana wrote: "You should pick up The Idiot next Bikas!"

I will give a shot, Adriana. Thanks for the recommendation


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) I found about "the woman question" in Crime and Punishment.


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Cris (cris_lectora) Thanks, Adriana, that was an interesting read :)


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Roseli Gomes (flyrobrasileira) I starterd read yesterday, I´m surprised, is more easy to read than I thought, I´m at 50th page!!!

Thanks for recommendation!!!


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) I'm glad you are enjoying it Roseli!

I finish it yesterday, I'm going to write a review now and I'll post it here as soon as it's done. It's such a great book, I don't even know where to start!


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) Well, I finally wrote my review, you can find it link: right here.. There's a lot of things I didn't talk about so it might be a little incomplete. Don't read it if you haven't finished the book!

I have to say that I really love this book. It was the perfect way to start the year. And I have decided to read EVERYTHING that Dostoevsky wrote. He's such an amazing author! I am truly in love.


Audrey G. Perreault (audrey_gperreault) | 7 comments Well... a little bit late, but I'm done! I loved the book and finally, I can read your review Adriana!

Now I understand why a good friend of mine started to read all Dostoyevsky, because it's great! But as well why she took a break after 4 books, because of his darkness.

Good way to start the year!


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) Audrey - Yes, his books, at least the ones I've read so far, are a bit dark but they have their funny/witty moments. I'm going to read a few more books from him in this challenge but with other weeks in between. No matter how much you love an author, it can be tiresome to read it all at once without taking a break!


Biblio Curious (bibliocurious) Crime and Punishment swept me off my feet and whisked me straight into an affair with Russian Lit. I read the Constance Garnett one and loved it. I recently heard from my coworker/Russian Lit BA that her's is the worst translation. Hence, it's always the free one in EBooks.

Pevear and Volokhonsky is a mixed couple of Russian and English background.

They also do Leo Tolsky. But Maude was friends with him and I actually prefer hers to P & V for Anna Karenina. I am reading the P&V for War and Peace. (Anna Karenina is on the backburner 'cause it needs 100% devotion 'cause it's so great)

My @*** Russians can write some great books! i blame it on their gloriously cold winters.

I'm also reading Notes from the Underground (P&V) translation. I think it's a great intro to the mentally sexy Fyodor. As a person to have lunch with, he'd be quite cynical and realistic. But for a debate or at a protest, maybe he would be energetic?

There's not many authors who I wonder what their personality or life was like. But outspoken Fyodor is definitely one of them.


Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) Thank you so, so much for the translation tips Biblio!
I've heard about Pevear and Volokhonsky but I haven't yet read anything translated by them. The next one I'll be reading is a compilation of short stories by Dostoevsky translated to Portuguese by Nina Guerra and Filipe Guerra. She's Russian and he's Portuguese and I think they've won a few translation prizes in Portugal.

I don't know much about translation but having two translators, one whose native language is being translated from and the other whose native language is being translated to and both knowing both languages, seems like the "perfect match".

Hmmm yes, I can see Dostoevsky being very energetic during a debate. He definitely put a lot of his opinions regarding religion, politics, social questions, etc, in his books through his characters. It's something I really like in his books, "listening" to what his characters (and himself) think about certain subjects.


Robert Hi all,

I finished the book yesterday. I have a few points about it such as:-
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Adriana Pereira (adrianacecilia) Chicken - (view spoiler)

I hope I was clear on my thoughts. Of course, it's only my interpretation of the book! I would like to hear what you think about it as well as the other readers :)


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Liz | 4 comments I'm reading this book and I rather boring. It's okay, but I just can't understand why it's this plot is as so long. Does it ever pick up?


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Narma | 49 comments This is an incredibly philosophical book. It has its very exciting portions as well as wrist slitting, boring moments.


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Liz | 4 comments Thanks Narma, I will keep pushing through with this book then.


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