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message 1: by Kristel (last edited Jan 12, 2021 04:48PM) (new)

Kristel (kristelh) | 5038 comments Mod
February: Hawthorne to Inante

Please peruse the list, tells us your opinions and desires. Voting is from the 15 through the 23 with winners announced on the 24. One choice is by popular vote and one will be selected by randomizer. Book under 600 pages and not a previous BOTM in past two years are included. If you think I missed something please let me know. Everyone gets a free vote but you can use participation points up to 5 total votes including your freebie. Please feel free to try and persuade people to vote on books you really want to read. Send a PM to the Reading 1001 shelf personality or to me. Don't forget to vote

Nathaniel Hawthorne US Author, 1804 to 1864
1. The Scarlet Letter 1850, 279 pages
2. The House of the Seven Gables 1851, 225 pages
3. The Blithedale Romance 1851, 204 pages
4. The Marble Faun 1860, 432 pages

Eliza Fowler Haywood English writer, (1693 � 1756)
5. Love in Excess 1719, 286 pages

Bessie Head South African author, 1936 to 1986
6. A Question Of Power 1974, 206 pages

Anne Hébert Canadian, 1916 to 2000
7. The First Garden 1988, 176 pages

Sadegh Hedayat Iran, 1903 to 1951
8. Blind Owl 1936, 148 pages

Robert A. Heinlein US author, MO 1907 to 1988
9. Stranger in a Strange Land 1961, 525 pages

Joseph Heller US author (NY), 1923 to 1999
10. Catch-22 1961, 453 pages

Ernest Hemingway US (Il) author, 1899 to 1961
11. The Sun Also Rises 1926, 189 pages
12. A Farewell to Arms 1929, 293 pages
13. To Have and Have Not 1937, 176 pages
14. For Whom the Bell Tolls 1940, 471 pages
15. The Old Man and the Sea 1952 96 pages

Aleksandar Hemon Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, September 09, 1964
16. Nowhere Man 2002, 256 pages

Amy Hempel US (Il), 1951
17. Reasons to Live 1985, 129 pages (short stories)

José Hernández
18. Martín Fierro 1872, 256 pages, Poetry

Michael Herr US Author, Kentucky, 1940 to 2016
19. Dispatches 1977, 260 pages

Hermann Hesse German author, 1877 to 1962
20. Rosshalde 1914, 213 pages
21. Siddhartha 1922, 152 pages
22. Steppenwolf 1927, 256 pages
23. The Glass Bead Game, 1943, 578 pages

Patricia Highsmith US (Texas) author, 1921 to 1995
24. The Talented Mr. Ripley 1955m 320 pages

Hildebrand Netherlands, 1814 to 1903 (September 13)
25. Camera Obscura kindle edition, English 1939, but when I check with Amazon, it states Dutch. Not sure of availability of this book.

Chester Himes US author
26. Blind Man with a Pistol 1969, 192 pages

Barry Hines England, 1939 to 2016
27. A Kestrel For A Knave 1968, 208 pages

William Hope Hodgson England, 1877 to 1918
28. The House on the Borderland 1908, 156 pages

Peter Høeg Denmark, 1957
29. Smilla's Sense of Snow 1992, 469 pages

Friedrich Hölderlin Germany 1770 to 1843
30. Hyperion; or, The Hermit in Greece

Alan Hollinghurst United Kingdom, 1954
31. The Swimming-Pool Library 1988, 352 pages
32. The Folding Star 1994, 432 pages

Oles Honchar Ukraine, 1918, 1995
33. The Cathedral

Michel Houellebecq France, 1958
34. Whatever 1994, 160 pages
35. The Elementary Particles 1998, 272
36. Platform 2001, 259

Bohumil Hrabal Czech Republic 1914 to 1997
37. Closely Watched Trains 1965, 85 pages

Victor Hugo France, 1802 to 1885
38. The Hunchback of Notre-Dame 1831, 510 pages

Dương Thu Hương Vietnam, 1947
39. Paradise of the Blind 1988, 270

Siri Hustvedt US (Minnesota), 1955
40. What I Loved 2002, 370 (2017 BOTM)

Aldous Huxley England, 1894 to 1963
41. Crome Yellow 1921, 176 pages
42. Antic Hay 1923, 352 pages
43. Brave New World 1932, 288 pages
44. Eyeless in Gaza 1936, 528 pages

Joris-Karl Huysmans France, 1848 to 1907
45. Against the Grain Easyread Edition 1884, or Against Nature
46. ³¢Ã -µþ²¹²õ or Downstream 1882, 80 pages

M.J. Hyland United Kingdom (Irish parents)
47. Carry Me Down 2006, 352 pages

Guillermo Cabrera Infante Cuba, 1929 to 2005
48. Three Trapped Tigers 1965, 487 pages

Gert Hofmann Germany 1931 to 1993
49. The Parable Of The Blind 1985, 152 pages.

E.T.A. Hoffmann Germany 1776 to 1822
50. The Life and Opinions of the Tomcat Murr 1819, 384 pages.

There it is, our February list, please let us know what you would like to read and don't forget to vote.


message 2: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (kristelh) | 5038 comments Mod
I've read 18 plus I read one of the two BOTM from last year. They were not included in the list.
They were The Line of Beauty and Aithiopika.


message 3: by Tracy (last edited Dec 15, 2020 10:35AM) (new)

Tracy (tstan) | 559 comments The Parable of the Blind by Hofmann and
The Life and Opinions of the Tomcat Murr by Hoffmann?

Were these recent past reads?

I was trying to find Camera Obscura a few weeks ago, and it looks like it hasn’t been translated to English. Doggone it.


message 4: by Kristel (last edited Dec 15, 2020 10:43AM) (new)

Kristel (kristelh) | 5038 comments Mod
Tracy wrote: "The Parable of the Blind by Hofmann and
The Life and Opinions of the Tomcat Murr by Hoffmann?

Were these recent past reads?"

parable of the blind should be there, I thought I posted it. I missed the life and opinions of Tomcat. I will fix it. And Thanks for catching that Tracy.


message 5: by Diane (last edited Dec 15, 2020 11:06AM) (new)

Diane  | 2044 comments I have read 43, so doubtful there will be any that come up that I haven't read. Just in case, these are what I have left and have access to:

Love in Excess
Rosshalde
The Glass Bead Game
The Folding Star
Eyeless in Gaza
The Life and Opinions of Tomcat Murr

I also have a copy of Camera Obscura in Dutch, which I can read poorly, if need be.


message 6: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Dawn | 1667 comments There's 12 here I haven't read. Overlapping with Diane's list is:

-Love in Excess
-The Folding Star
-Eyeless in Gaza

The others are:
-Stranger in a Strange Land
-For Whom the Bell Tolls
-Martin Fierro
-Carry me Down
-Camera Obscura
-The Cathedral
-The Elementary Particles
-Platform
-What I Loved

I'll vote for whatever people seem to be into if I haven't read it.


message 7: by Patrick (new)

Patrick Robitaille | 1549 comments Mod
I have read 21 so far and have 5 on my TBR:

- The Sun Also Rises (Hemingway)
- The Glass Bead Game (Hesse)
- Brave New World (Huxley)
- Carry Me Down (Hyland)
- Parable of the Blind (Hofmann)

I would push for Carry Me Down, since Amanda also has not read it.


message 8: by Kristel (last edited Dec 15, 2020 01:48PM) (new)

Kristel (kristelh) | 5038 comments Mod
I am game for The Glass Bead Game.
I really would like to read a Hemingway and
I would like to read Blithedale Romance

I think Carry Me Down might have been a previous BOTM. I know I've read it already. BOTM 2013.


message 9: by Valerie (new)

Valerie Brown | 841 comments I plan on reading Antic Hay in Jan or Feb, but it appears that others have already read that one.


message 10: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (kristelh) | 5038 comments Mod
Valerie wrote: "I plan on reading Antic Hay in Jan or Feb, but it appears that others have already read that one."

I haven't read that one.


message 11: by Diane (new)

Diane  | 2044 comments Kristel wrote: "I am game for The Glass Bead Game.
"


Love puns.


message 12: by Leni (new)

Leni Iversen (leniverse) | 555 comments Wasn't the Cathedral a BOTM in 2017? I read it in December that year, and it's an obscure enough book that I doubt I read it completely on my own.

I'd love to read some Hesse (ideally Siddhartha or Steppenwolf) or Hemingway, but I have already read The Sun Also Rises (and The Old Man and the Sea). It's been over 15 years though, so I guess I could go another round.


message 13: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (kristelh) | 5038 comments Mod
Leni wrote: "Wasn't the Cathedral a BOTM in 2017? I read it in December that year, and it's an obscure enough book that I doubt I read it completely on my own.

I'd love to read some Hesse (ideally Siddhartha ..."
Yes it was a BOTM in 2017 but we only don't do 2 years back as repeats. I think it may have even been a BOTM twice but I only have one time listed as far as bookshelf but I know that I've read it twice.


message 14: by Pip (new)

Pip | 1822 comments I have read 20, but it is a very long time since I read Hemingway and would like to re-read any of his.


message 15: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (kristelh) | 5038 comments Mod
I have [The Sun Also Rises] as one of my options but I would be open to reading anything else by Hemingway, too.


message 16: by Kristel (last edited Dec 17, 2020 03:48PM) (new)

Kristel (kristelh) | 5038 comments Mod
I have The Sun Also Rises as one of my options but I would be open to reading anything else by Hemingway, too.


message 17: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Dawn | 1667 comments The only Hemingway I haven't read yet is "For whom the Bell Tolls" how do people feel about that one?


message 18: by Gail (new)

Gail (gailifer) | 2117 comments I have read The Sun Also Rises and For Whom The Bell Tolls and read them both recently. Have only read a total of 8 of these selections overall.


message 19: by Gail (new)

Gail (gailifer) | 2117 comments I could read Antic Hay or Carry Me Down.


message 20: by Leni (new)

Leni Iversen (leniverse) | 555 comments Amanda wrote: "The only Hemingway I haven't read yet is "For whom the Bell Tolls" how do people feel about that one?"

That would be my preference. I've wanted to read that for quite some time.


message 21: by Diane (new)

Diane  | 2044 comments Amanda wrote: "The only Hemingway I haven't read yet is "For whom the Bell Tolls" how do people feel about that one?"

I just read that one literally this week.


message 22: by Diane (new)

Diane  | 2044 comments I will be voting either for The Glass Bead Game or The Folding Star.


message 23: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (kristelh) | 5038 comments Mod
It sounds like the voting could go many ways this time. So your votes will be very important. Remember to have your TBR list ready as the number will also be announced probably on Christmas eve this year rather than Christmas day.


message 24: by Jamie (new)

Jamie Barringer (Ravenmount) (ravenmount) | 553 comments I may reread The Glass Bead Game again in 2021 anyway, one of my all-time favorite novels still, but the only Hesse on the List I haven't read yet is Siddhartha (which I probably have a copy of someplace). I suppose eventually I ought to read more Hemmingway and Huxley too, and may own some of the Hemmingways I haven't read yet, but I wouldn't mind avoiding them a while longer. Without having ILL back yet, if we end up doing The Folding Star I can happily skip that one too for another year. It's the only Hollinghurst I have left to read from the list and the other 2 were awful. :)


message 25: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Dawn | 1667 comments Well, I'm probs just gonna vote for For Whom the Bell Tolls and see how it goes.


message 26: by Diane (new)

Diane  | 2044 comments I voted for The Glass Bead Game.


message 27: by [deleted user] (new)

Excluded from randomiser:

Catch 22


message 28: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (kristelh) | 5038 comments Mod
Book wrote: "Excluded from randomiser:

Catch 22"

Should The Cathedral be excluded also?


message 29: by Jessica (new)

Jessica Haider (jessicahaider) | 124 comments I've read 13 of these.

Of the ones I haven't read the ones high on my TBR are:
Stranger in a Strange Land
What I Loved
A Question of Power
Reasons to Live
Whatever
The Elementary Particles
Crome Yellow
Glass Bead Game


message 30: by George P. (last edited Dec 20, 2020 08:19PM) (new)

George P. | 701 comments I've also read 13 of these, including all the Hemingways. I have copies of four of the five listed Hemingways incl For Whom the Bell Tolls (a rather worn 1st edition, 1940) and would enjoy reading it again, has been a couple decades.

Three of them are very near the top of my (long) TBR list:

Reasons to Live (which I see Jessica favors)
Dispatches
Hunchback of N D

A couple of the others are in the top 200 of my list- The Glass Bead Game and The Blind Owl.
I can get all these from libraries.
btw, the Glass Bead Game was also published in English with the title "Magister Ludi".


message 31: by Patrick (new)

Patrick Robitaille | 1549 comments Mod
I have thrown my support on The Sun Also Rises (Hemingway), hopefully it might sway some of the undecided.


message 32: by Tatjana (new)

Tatjana JP | 317 comments I voted for The Elementary Particles.


message 33: by George P. (new)

George P. | 701 comments I decided to vote for Reasons to Live by Amy Hempel,; this is her only book on the list and I havent read any other books of hers.


message 34: by [deleted user] (new)

Kristel wrote: "Book wrote: "Excluded from randomiser:

Catch 22"
Should The Cathedral be excluded also?"


Not according to my list :)


message 35: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (kristelh) | 5038 comments Mod
Announcing winners:
Randomizer Hyperion; or, The Hermit in Greece
Popular Vote: The Glass Bead Game

There is our February BOTM. What will you be reading? Any volunteers for moderating either of these books.


message 36: by Diane (new)

Diane  | 2044 comments Sweet! I will be reading The Glass Bead Game and really look forward to it. I read Hyperion a couple of years ago, so I won't be reading it.


message 37: by Leni (new)

Leni Iversen (leniverse) | 555 comments I'd like to read both, but I need to see what February will look like first. I also don't think I have Hyperion, but I don't suppose it is too difficult/expensive to get hold of.


message 38: by George P. (new)

George P. | 701 comments I'll join in on The Glass Bead Game. It was about number 160 in my to-read list, so it would have otherwise been 2 or 3 yrs before I got to it.
It's 550 pages, so I'll plan on starting by mid-Jan.


message 39: by Pip (new)

Pip | 1822 comments I hope to read both, but haven't yet sorted where to get them.


message 40: by Pip (new)

Pip | 1822 comments Easy. Hyperion on Kindle and The Glass Bead Game on Audible. Great to take to Sydney. 2 Germans, I think! I plan to brush up my German in 2021 because my granddaughter has just landed a job in Berlin.


message 41: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Dawn | 1667 comments I've read both again: ah well. I'm doing one of the January buddy reads so I'll porbably focus on TBR, randomiser, BINGO, etc in feb.


message 42: by Leni (new)

Leni Iversen (leniverse) | 555 comments Pip, that's exciting! I've been trying to brush up/improve my German too. I'm certain I'm not at Hölderlin level yet though. And The Glass Bead Game is too long for me to attempt in the original. I have a couple of books on my TBR challenge that I might try to read in parallel, original and translation, if their numbers get chosen.

George, I'm curious, have you arranged the whole 1001-list in reading order? How do you go about it? By author, chronological, by language/nationality?


message 43: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (kristelh) | 5038 comments Mod
Pip wrote: "Easy. Hyperion on Kindle and The Glass Bead Game on Audible. Great to take to Sydney. 2 Germans, I think! I plan to brush up my German in 2021 because my granddaughter has just landed a job in Berlin."

How perfect! Have safe travels and family time in all your travels.


message 44: by George P. (last edited Dec 25, 2020 10:34AM) (new)

George P. | 701 comments Leni wrote: "George, I'm curious, have you arranged the whole 1001-list in reading order? How do you go about it? By author, chronological, by language/nationality?.."

No, I don't have all "my" unread 1001-list books in my to-read list- I think between those I've read (357) and those in my to-read list it's probably about half of them. About half of my to-read list might be 1001 list books, I haven't counted.

The order in my to-read list is based on a number of factors, but the chief ones are if it's a 1001-list book and the average rating on Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ. I give extra weight to Nobel prize winners I haven't read, other major prize winners, foreign authors (esp countries I haven't read before), women authors and friend endorsements. I actually use a point system but give extra points or deduct for books I'm more or less-interested in. Rather OCD, I know. I read group monthly-read books (I'm in 6 groups) that are on my list or really interest me regardless of where they are in my to-read list, so it's not a rigid thing but I wanted it to be less subjective as to what I read next.
If anyone wants the details of the point system I developed I can private message you.


message 45: by Leni (new)

Leni Iversen (leniverse) | 555 comments George, planning is half the fun. Although I'm not super good at following the plan. I am often a mood reader, so if I end up with too many group reads etc that aren't what I feel like at the time, I get demotivated. A point system sounds interesting, but I've been thinking that I should try to work out more of a thematic grouping to choose books from.


message 46: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (kristelh) | 5038 comments Mod
I belong to LibraryThing and Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ. I am in the challenge group there but my choices are based for each month,
1001 BOTM if I haven't read them
1001 TBR takedown
My face to face book club.
These are my priorities. Then I add in the challenges for LT. I am working on reading lists this year (Booker, Pulitzer, NPR science fiction, fantasy, NPR horror. 21st century canon (Vulture), 21st century Guardian, but I start with the top and work down each month. I try to make some of them overlap if I can.


message 47: by Jamie (new)

Jamie Barringer (Ravenmount) (ravenmount) | 553 comments If there are any volunteers wanting to moderate The Glass Bead Game who won't be rereading it for the 10th time, they should get it instead, but otherwise, I'd like to volunteer to moderate the BOTM discussion for The Glass Bead Game. it's still one of my all-time favorite books, and I planned to reread it in 2021 even before it was picked as a BOTM. :)


message 48: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (kristelh) | 5038 comments Mod
Jamie wrote: "If there are any volunteers wanting to moderate The Glass Bead Game who won't be rereading it for the 10th time, they should get it instead, but otherwise, I'd like to volunteer to moderate the BOT..."

Ah, thanks Jamie, your enthusiasm is encouraging. I will plan on you hosting unless someone else really wants it badly.


message 49: by George P. (new)

George P. | 701 comments Leni wrote: "I am often a mood reader, so if I end up with too many group reads etc that aren't what I feel like at the time, I get demotivated...."

This group's TBR takedown challenge could also be a more spontaneous way to pick out a new book to read. I haven't tried that since I'm happy with my system at present.


message 50: by Leni (new)

Leni Iversen (leniverse) | 555 comments George P. wrote: "This group's TBR takedown challenge could also be a more spontaneous way to pick out a new book to read. I haven't tried that since I'm happy with my system at present. "

I love the TBR takedown challenge. But it is hard to strike a balance and select books that I am keen enough to read when their number comes up, no matter what else is going on, and yet not so keen to read that I regret having to wait for them to (potentially be chosen). XD

I have discovered that, for the most part, books that are both on the Boxall 1001 List and on the Guardian 1000 list, tend to be books that I love, or if they are not, they are books that I have engaged critically with. So even if I dislike them I get something from them even if it's only a lasting impression of dislike. lol

So I have made a comparison and found that there's an overlap of 465 books. I have read 115 of them and own another 64. So I'm going to focus my reading mostly on those 64.


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