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message 1: by Kadi, Creator (last edited Aug 20, 2021 03:06PM) (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
Hello to my fellow team captains!

The Captains:
Team Lucy Pevensie - Kadi (me)
Team Sirius Black - Jessica
Team Merlin - Aeriell
Team Charlotte - Lynn

If you or your team members have any questions (that aren’t addressed in the rules) please feel free to ask them here so I can answer them.

I’ll also be using this space to announce stuff like the Bonus Tasks and other updates so keep an eye on this topic!


message 2: by Kadi, Creator (last edited Jul 30, 2021 08:11AM) (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
How the spreadsheet works:
- There are 4 different sheet tabs.

1. Official Challenge Sheet

- This is the main one.
- All points auto-populate so you don’t have to calculate anything yourself. Just fill in the right boxes and points will appear. Please don’t mess with the points coding! If you do by accident or you think it’s not working properly please let me know, don’t try and fix it yourself if it’s not a simple fix.
- Please use the British date method for filling in the start and finished read boxes like dd/mm/yy NOT the American method. Check out the Example Sheet for reference.

2. Tracking Sheet

- This is informal and optional, you don’t have to use it but it’ll make things easier for you so I recommend you do.
- This time (I didn’t do this for the last Challenge) all the boxes align with the Official Challenge Sheet do you can copy paste the whole row from the Tracking Sheet into the Challenge Sheet to save you time.

3. Task Guidance

- This gives more guidance on tasks so please check this sheet out. It’ll be very useful for some tasks that are specific. I tried to foresee where a task might be confusing and then clarified what counts and doesn’t count for ambiguous tasks.

4. Example of Challenge Sheet

- This is just a duplicate of the Official Challenge Sheet to show you how you should fill in the Official Challenge Sheet.


message 3: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
Hey ladiesss! Just wanted to let you all know that I’ve messaged each team member to let them know the teams have been announced. If any of your team members haven’t checked in on your team’s discussion page by 27th July please let me know!


message 4: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments everyone on my team has commented in the team chat at least once, so we're all good!


message 5: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
@Jessica awesome! All of Team C have checked in too. Almost all of Team D’s members are absent and half of my team. Hopefully everyone appears in the next few days, if not I’ll send out another message to all missing members and this time I’ll include the correct link😂


message 6: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments fingers crossed the rest show up!! 😅😅


message 7: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
Yeah fingers crossed! Because it doesn’t seem like a good idea to move people to different teams in order to balance the teams out if people are missing. It’s an option but not an ideal one. Hopefully it won’t have to come to that...


message 8: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
Oh and guys, when your team members have all decided on a team name please let me know here and I can change the discussion page titles and spreadsheets appropriately before I invite everyone to their team’s spreadsheet.


message 9: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments will do! we’ve come up with some ideas, so I’m just waiting to hear back regarding preferences and such


message 10: by Aeriell (new)

Aeriell Castleman | 183 comments @Kadi would Merlin be a useable name? So far we have two agreements besides me, but since it's a name but he doesn't have the last name would you allow it?


message 11: by Kadi, Creator (last edited Jul 25, 2021 04:15PM) (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
@Jessica well there’s no rush so take your time to discuss it with your team members!

@Aeriell is that Merlin from The Lost Years? He doesn’t have a last name so in that case it’d be fine to use it as a team name if all your team members like it too. It’s actually a really great team name, I wish I’d have thought of it!


message 12: by Lynn (new)

Lynn (ftbooklover) | 615 comments All of my team participants have checked in and one has a question: Will each of the tasks need to be completed by everyone in the group or will we be able to complete tasks individually?


message 13: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
@Lynn awesome! That just leaves my team now, I think I’m waiting on one more person.

Also that’s a good question. So every task is individual. To put it simply: one book read by one member completes one task. Once people see the spreadsheet it’ll probably seem simpler to understand.


message 14: by Aeriell (new)

Aeriell Castleman | 183 comments Where do we put our team names? Should we mention them here or?


message 15: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments idk if it's just me, but for that last message you posted to each groups about the shorter books, the first three hyperlinks don't work/won't allow me to click on them for some reason? the second and third seem simple enough to find without, but i was curious about that first list! is that the same list you posted on another page for this contest?


message 16: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
@Aeriell yeah please let me know what team name you decided on here!

@Jessica oh man that's really annoying. ŷ has been really annoying about html links lately. I've fixed them all so they should work now. But yeah it's just the same link as I showed you before except I thought I'd share it with everyone this time.


message 17: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
Yeah so guys if anyone on your team has noticed the links are not working in that message about the short books, please let them know the links are now working!


message 18: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments thank you! yah, seems to be all good now! goodreads definitely has its quirks


message 19: by Aeriell (new)

Aeriell Castleman | 183 comments @Kadi I had a team member ask if there is a minimum page limit, there isn't one stated on the rules so I'm asking you.


message 20: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
Hey Aeriell, it says in the rules here:
“WHAT COUNTS AS A MIDDLE GRADE BOOK:
- Must be more than 100 pages long.
[...]
- *For audiobooks*: The print edition must be more than 100 pages long.
- *For graphic novels*: must be more than 150 pages long.�

Hopefully that helps your team member!


message 21: by Lynn (new)

Lynn (ftbooklover) | 615 comments Team D is going to be Team Charlotte for Charlotte's Web.


message 22: by Aeriell (last edited Jul 29, 2021 08:28PM) (new)

Aeriell Castleman | 183 comments Kadi wrote: "@Aeriell yeah please let me know what team name you decided on here!

We, at Team C, are going with Merlin and I had someone ask this:
The Percy Jackson and Kane Chronicles Crossover, is a trilogy. Each books are only 60 pages long. I have already read the first book, so because minimum page limit is 100, can I count the second and the third for one prompt?

Would it count or no?



message 23: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
@Lynn @Aeriell awesome! I’ll change the team names on the spreadsheets and discussion pages then. Just Team B left now because in Team A we have decided on Team Lucy Pevensie!

Also Aeriell unfortunately it’s not possible to combine short books like that to meet the minimum page requirement. The book on its own must be more than 100 pages long. My suggestion to your team member is if they want to read multiple short stories they could try and find a book that is a short story collection instead. Hope that helps!


message 24: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments as an update, I’m pretty sure we’re gonna be team sirius black
abigael-kala hasn’t posted anything in a couple days, so there’s still a possibility, but I’m fairly sure sirius black will be whats the final choice


message 25: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
@Jessica okey dokey I’ll put it as Sirius Black on the spreadsheet. If you want me to change it anytime before August 1st just let me know!


message 26: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments will do! thank ya!


message 27: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
Update on the spreadsheets, guys:
I’ll be sending out email invites to you and all your team members to your team’s spreadsheet at midnight my time (pretty sure there’s a countdown for it on everyone’s discussion pages).
I’ll be giving all your team members editing access. Please coordinate with your team members about how they want to handle it all.

My suggestion is that you allow your team members to fill in the Tracking Sheet if they can/want to and then you as a captain can handle the official Challenge Sheet. That’s how I’ll be doing it with my team members but I’m overly fussy so whatever they enter in I’ll probably edit it to suit the way I want it.
Alternatively, you can have your team members tell you the information about their books on your team’s discussion page and you can enter it into the official Challenge Sheet as the captain.

I’ve added info in the second comment at the top of this discussion about the different parts of the spreadsheet so please check that out and if you have any questions ask away!


message 28: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments hi! question: for this task: A book recommended by the person 1 number below you in your team
if the person reading it is the last member, can the person below them count as member 1?


message 29: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
@Jessica yeah I completely forgot to mention that I’m the Task Guidance Sheet so I’ll add that now but you’re right, the last member will take team member 1. as the member below them.


message 30: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments @kadi perfect! that's what i figured, but just wanted to make sure thanks!


message 31: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
No problemo! Boy, it’s all kicking off tonight, huh! I’ve got like 15 messages to respond to😂 not gonna lie, I love it though, this is the fun part now. All organising aside, I’m excited to start participating!


message 32: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments yah it is! I’m so excited for it all 😂😂


message 33: by Lynn (new)

Lynn (ftbooklover) | 615 comments I'm sorry if you've already answered this, but can multiple members of a team earn points for the same task? For example: if Amy reads a book from one of the group series readathons and I do too, will we both get points for that?


message 34: by Kadi, Creator (last edited Jul 31, 2021 04:05PM) (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
@Lynn no to the first question. Yes to the second question but not in the way you probably think, so let me explain it with an example.

Let’s say both you and Amy read Three Keys from our Front Desk readathon.

When Amy applies her reading of Three Keys to task 1. A book from ANY of the group's series readathons then that task is complete and Amy has earned your team 1 point.
You can’t then apply your reading of Three Keys to task 1 because that task is complete.
BUT you can apply your reading of Three Keys to another task like task 11. A book with three people on the cover. That way you’ll earn a point for your team too.

Hopefully that makes sense and the example made it less complicated than it otherwise sounds.
Also that’s totally legit btw because that book is this month’s series readathon book so if anyone wants to use this example for their actual challenge then go for it😂


message 35: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments question for task 77: a book with a protagonist who is not human

is half-human acceptable? or does the character need to be completely not human? for reference, this character is half-godling and half-human


message 36: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
@Jessica yeah I’d say half-human counts as being not human. Not that I’m judging who I’m guessing is Percy Jackson or someone similar😂


message 37: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments @kadi okay great! but actually no! lol (though it would 100% be me to pick percy jackson books). i wanna try some new mg books instead of rereading, and i found one where the girl is what i described above😂 i'm not actually sure what the "godling" part consists of, so i guess i'll find out! (apparently its half orisha, which i still don't actually know what THAT means hahah)


message 38: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
@Jessica I’m doing the same too, I’ve decided to read some new books instead of rereading old ones. Well, it sounds pretty cool so hope you enjoy it!


message 39: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments @kadi me too!

so far, i only plan on rereading 1 or 2 books, but that's because they're books i haven't read in like 75 thousand years and ones i've been wanting to reread for ages. ha i'm so excited to read lol


message 40: by Lynn (new)

Lynn (ftbooklover) | 615 comments Kadi wrote: "@Lynn no to the first question. Yes to the second question but not in the way you probably think, so let me explain it with an example.

Let’s say both you and Amy read Three Keys f..."


I get it. Makes sense.


message 41: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments i've got some questions for you from one of my team members, kadi!

1. does the Frank Slide in Canada count as a landmark? i'm pretty sure it does, but i just wanted to double-check

2. is "freddy" close enough to "fred" to count for that task? or does it have to be JUST fred?

3. for a book set in fall, does the whole book have to take place in the fall, or can it just be a portion of the book? for example, a book takes place from september to april. would that count since it includes winter and spring?

4. is treasure specifically gold/precious stones, or can it be more up to interpretation and include friendship/healing/missing loved one/etc?


message 42: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments also, did you add the "a"s into the official challenge sheet?


message 43: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
Hey Jessica, yeah I did add the "a"s on your spreadsheet😂 I thought someone would notice. Turns out some of the points coding wasn't working so I just spent an hour trying to figure it out. Once I figured it out I was just checking that it all worked properly. I did it for all the spreadsheets! I've finished the score spreadsheet and will be sharing that soon.

In answer to your questions:
1. Yes
2. No it must be Fred although if his real name is Fred and people call him Freddy as a nickname then that's fine.
3. Hmm I'm going to say the majority of the book should take place in fall so if the book has winter and spring in it then that's fine as long as the majority of the book is set in fall.
4. No treasure must be physical treasure like gold, diamonds etc.


message 44: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments okay cool😂 i'd guessed as much but wanted to be sure just in case, but yah i was just watching them all appear like "hmm. interesting."😂 glad it's working again, though sorry it took so long to get it to do so

and thanks for those answers!


message 45: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
@Jessica no problemo! I don't even know how I made the formula work in the end but I'm glad it does. It probably wouldn't have taken so long if brother hadn't been distracting me by watching Arrow in the background😂 I spent so long typing out those a's and I've just realised I should've copy pasted them. But at least it works now👏🏻


message 46: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments @kadi 😂😂😂😂 i love distractions and realizations that come about in hindsight lol


message 47: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
@Jessica at least I got brownies after all that. Definitely worth it😂


message 48: by jessica (new)

jessica (abookishjess) | 684 comments @kadi ohmygosh yes, definitely


message 49: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
hehe :)


message 50: by Kadi, Creator (new)

Kadi P (kadi_p) | 4142 comments Mod
Ok my fellow captains,

Check out the team scores here: /topic/show/...
Feel free to share the page with your team members too if they'd be interested in seeing it.


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