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Am I the only one who thinks Christian is overhated and can do better than Ana?

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message 1: by Amber (last edited Nov 06, 2021 10:46AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Amber I don’t want to make this a hate speech on why I dislike Ana most of the time.

But I just feel like Christian is too overhated, other than finding out more information on her before he “asked her out� he didn’t actually do anything wrong. He literally came with a warning, he genuinely cared for Ana’s feelings. And Ana wanted it and asked for it, and looked forward to it. And the things she didn’t like he stopped it all for her. Anyway I don’t want to talk about how he actually is a good person, that people misunderstand.

But back to Ana, people fail to see that she is actually very emotionally abusive she constantly makes him feel like shit, even at things that she started.

She is an impatient nag, careless, stupid (but acts like she’s smart and boasts of her 4.0 GPA), bratty (but acts like she isn’t) emotionally vindictive, she is way more of a sex addict than Christian and has taken him by surprise many times. And she plays on his weaknesses all the time. She is full of contradictions and it’s confusing for Christian, she wanted to go to dinners when he does that, she won’t eat and just wants sex instead. She unappreciative have you noticed how she’s more happy to take, but starts an argument over receiving gifts?. She wanted playful shades, when he’s playful she’s all “Oh for heavens sake grow up� like how does he not have a massive headache around her. Honestly I think he should’ve called it quits and let her come running bk to him

People say she’s a ‘victim� she isn’t

Sorry rant over (And believe me this was the short version)


message 2: by Greattt! (last edited Apr 09, 2022 08:14AM) (new)

Greattt! I agree with you!!! Christian literally gets hated way too much and too easily. As you said, when they started their relationship, Christian knows that the things he does are dangerous for someone so innocent as Ana, so he gave her warnings all the time. He is also so mindful about protection, constantly reminding her about birth control, also her safety, etc. This should also be Ana's responsibility, yet when something wrong happens, it's almost always Christian's fault???

Ana is kind of a complete bitch. There are so many times she thinks she's so "strong" and how she's "sticking up for herself" when really, she's just playing with Christian's vulnerabilities and emotionally manipulate him. She's so annoying; for example, she keeps asking the same questions about Elena even when she knows some of the answers. She thinks she can handle hearing about her (she says this) but every single time, she doesn't. She doesn't allow Christian to get mad for her intrusion or reaction over it, but when Christian gets a bit annoyed for asking about her discussion with Dr Flynn, she can snap and say "don't ask me then"??? This is just one of the "light" examples.

Another time where Ana thinks she's "sticking up for herself" when she's just a bitch is when she goes shopping while Christian was angry about her very short skirt. Then when she comes back, Christian was so easy and quick to forgive her, but how about all the other times that Ana was angry at Christian? E.g. Buying SIP, haircut scene, Elena at the charity masquerade, etc etc. She just yells and barely gives Christian any chance to explain. Christian keeps trying in this relationship but she barely does. So much for an "equal" relationship???

There are so many more cases, both big and small scenes, of how the relationship isn't equal and it also shows just how much Christian has compromised for this relationship. I like reading Fifty Shades Darker in Christian's POV, but I only fully enjoy like 3 or 4 of the 10 days because the others contain Ana becoming/being a spoiled whiny asshole. Ana really isn't as much of a victim as most people make it. It's really Christian.


Amber Great wrote: "I agree with you!!! Christian literally gets hated way too much and too easily. As you said, when they started their relationship, Christian knows that the things he does are dangerous for someone ..."

For some reason I got kinda nervous when I saw a reply here.


It’s nice to see someone else seeing it this way. Yeah it’s not right or fair that Christian always gets the blame, it’s like he’s not allowed to ever be upset or ask questions.


He was always very patient with her, and thoroughly explained things to her and always reminded her that she can always say “no� but for some reason the critics can’t except than Ana simply didn’t want to say “no� in fact she wanted Christian from the very beginning, people forget she ALSO couldn’t stay away, she got upset when he didn’t kiss her (when they just met) and she went round his house specifically to have sex with him, she didn’t even care about starting things slow and talking first, she just wanted him to “make love to her� straight off the bat.

I complete agree and remember what your saying in your second paragraph. And she always has to badger him in moments that either kill the mood, or during dinner, it’s actually rude to keep wasting food after she knows Christian doesn’t like, if these questions puts her off her appetite, she shouldn’t ask them yet, she enjoys upsetting him. Everything she asks they’ve gone over, and the answers are always so obvious, she’s always calling Christian “obtuse� which isn’t very nice. But she’s the obtuse one. Another thing I wanna add to what you’re saying (and this may be extremely controversial) but where Ana always talks about how “strong� she is, do you remember when they were in the playroom and she was talking about how strong she is and wondering if she’s strong enough for the both of them? Christian was talking about wanting to look after her and protect her etc and her response was “Oh, Christian you don’t even know how to use a gun� Like WTF liking guns, isn’t the epitome of being “Strong�. SMH.

Replying to 3rd paragraph; Yeah and about that skirt thing, Ana was excited about making Christian angry, which is sort of okay and could/should have been playful, but Ana makes things more argumentative when it should be fun, also she literally never wore a short dress before she was with Christian, so that says a lot. And Christian wasn’t even angry, he just thought it was too short to wear on it’s own, he has a point, a tiny bit of wind and she’d be flashing her underwear to everyone. And OMG, don’t even get me started with that haircut scene. Lol, that was the first scene I really really started to not stand Ana, all Christian wanted was to get her back home where they could be safe, because Leila was out there, and she’s all “Wait a minute, we were in the middle of an argument!!� she’s exhausting, and doesn’t use her common sense much at all, and she enjoys arguing way too much, she’s actually so lucky she’s got Christian.

I agree, but I do really enjoy Darker in Christian’s POV, I like how there’s so much more to him than just Ana, as much as Ana is his world, he still cares for the rest of it, Ana seems to not care so much about anything else.

But you’re right she’s incredibly spoiled in fact, most of the words she describes to Christian like being “Mercurial� She’s literally describing herself.


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