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message 1: by Cleofa (new)

Cleofa Hi, I'm looking for a book series similar in tone to Tolkien books so with no explicit or disturbing violence (I'm ok if people die or get severely wounded), no vulgarity, no sexual content of any kind. Apart from this it doesn't have to be similar to Tolkien books, it could be a series in any subgenres of fantasy or sci-fi. I mentioned Tolkien just for reference to let you understand how clean I like books. If you have in mind a series that mostly fit these criteria but it as some sexual innuendos every now and then or a level of violence slightly superior to Tolkien's it's ok, but the more tame it is, the better.
This is what I've already read excluding Tolkien.

Narnia: Liked it, but I would like something more complex.

Percy Jackson: Enjoyable, but same as with Narnia

Mistborn: I didn't like disturbing stuff like the inquisitors or the kandra.

Discworld: Real fun. It as some innuendos that I would prefer not to be in the books but it's ok.

Harry Potter: Read it some time ago when I was younger and liked it, I don't know if it still holds up now that I've grown but I have fond memory of the series

I've never read any sci-fi books but i would like to try.

Thanks!


message 2: by Ian (new)

Ian Slater (yohanan) | 397 comments For SF: The “Heinlein Juveniles� from the 1950s might fit.

Try the Robert A. Heinlein Wikipedia article, and bibliography for titles. I would stop at “Citizen of the Galaxy,� which alludes to how people can expand the concept of incest to include people with no biological connection (which really happens), although he doesn’t come out and use the word.

Later stories have a strong sexual content, although the action is mostly offstage. I think Podkayne of Mars would fit as a juvenile as well, although some blurbs refer to the teenage protagonist’s sex appeal.

And most of Andre Norton would fit, too, although the Witch World fantasy series contains threats of rape, so you might want to avoid those titles.


message 3: by Ian (new)

Ian Slater (yohanan) | 397 comments The early Asimov also should be acceptable. His later works have a sexual component, but not “I, Robot� or the original Foundation books (Foundation, Foundation and Empire, and Second Foundation ). Also the early anthologies. See Wikipedia for titles with dates.

Virtually all SF before the late 1960s is probably as sex free as you want, although a few are quite violent, if that includes destroying whole planets. You also have to watch out for sexist and sometimes racists attitudes from the time they were written.


message 4: by Charlton (new)

Charlton (cw-z) | 741 comments You might like The Riftwar Saga by Raymond E. Feist.


message 5: by Michelle (last edited Sep 30, 2022 03:40PM) (new)

Michelle (michellehartline) | 3108 comments I don't think C.J. Cherryh has ever had offensive language or smut in any of her work. She writes terrific sci-fi.

A good fantasy trilogy by Patricia McKillip is Riddle-Master and it's very clean. Actually, I believe all of her work is.


message 6: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (michellehartline) | 3108 comments If you don't mind the long haul, Janny Wurts has an excellent series that's clean. There are ten books, and the first is The Curse of the Mistwraith.

Another clean and excellent fantasy series by Megan Whalen Turner starts with The Thief. It sometimes is categorized as YA, but it is a surprisingly intricate and fantastic series.


message 7: by Amy (Other Amy) (last edited Sep 30, 2022 03:55PM) (new)

Amy (Other Amy) | 175 comments I would classify Dragonflight as having sexual content.

You might like Seanan McGuire's Velveteen vs series (1st book: Velveteen vs. The Junior Super Patriots). It has some romance (which is not the plot driver) but no sex and the violence is comparable to Tolkien. Also consider her Wayward Children (Every Heart a Doorway) though one character does mention sex later in the series.


message 8: by Ian (new)

Ian Slater (yohanan) | 397 comments Cherryh’s Downbelow Station has implied sexual exploitation (of a man by a powerful woman), and there is some non-explicit sex in Cyteen: I don’t remember such issues in her other books, but there are a lot of them, and I might think of more if I spent some time thinking about it.

All of them very much worth reading, however.

It has been several years since I re-read the Riddlemaster trilogy, but I think it meets the specifications. Also a brilliant series by a brilliant writer, some of whose works have been published as YA, although that is not a guarantee of innocuous content.


message 9: by Rosina (new)

Rosina (rosinarowantree) | 58 comments Ian wrote: "Cherryh’s Downbelow Station has implied sexual exploitation (of a man by a powerful woman), and there is some non-explicit sex in Cyteen: I don’t remember such issues in her other books, but there ..."

Off the top of my head, the Foreigner series, and the Chanur novels, have interspecies sexual relationships - nor explicit, but important.


message 10: by Ian (new)

Ian Slater (yohanan) | 397 comments Mercedes Lackey, sometimes superb but sometimes disturbingly careless about details, is definitely out: too many characters in too many of her numerous books either talk about sex or engage in it, the last explicitly enough to draw protests in otherwise favorable reviews. And you can’t readily predict from what series the book is in.


message 11: by Cleofa (new)

Cleofa Thanks everybody! :)


message 12: by Kelle (new)

Kelle Campbell | 16 comments If memory serves, The Adept series by Katherine Kurtz and Deborah Turner Harris is pretty clean.

The protagonist does acquire a love interest during the series, and it's stated that they're physically intimate. But from what I recall, it's never shown.


message 13: by Ian (new)

Ian Slater (yohanan) | 397 comments Try the Wikipedia article on the Ballantine Adult Fantasy series, which relaunched many then-obscure fantasy titles, and added some new ones. “Adult� here is not the euphemistic “Adult Entertainment,� but simply means “not aimed primarily at children.�

A few volumes have some some sexual content. For example you might want to avoid E.R. Eddison for this reason, although most people just find him difficult to read (He is a personal favorite, however.) And Poul Anderson’s The Broken Sword and Hrolf Kraki’s Saga include things you might find objectionable.

Some of the titles listed there are available used, and others have been reprinted, under the successor Del Rey Fantasy imprint, and by other publishers. Used editions of these editions are also available from dealers.


message 14: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments A sci-fi series that - as far as I recall - has no gore or sexual content is Skyward by Brandon Sanderson starting with Starsight. It is aimed at younger readers, but it has the typical Sanderson complexity in the construction of the plot.


message 15: by DivaDiane (new)

DivaDiane SM | 3648 comments People are reminding me of Fantasy I’ve read which is clean:

The first three books of Katherine Kurtz� Deryni series is medieval political fantasy and has not sex. Lots of violence though.

Owlflight, by Mercedes Lackey is a coming of age story and has no sex and only a little violence and death. It’s a trilogy (in a much larger world) and I only read the first one very recently so I can’t vouch for the rest.

Janny Wurts� To Ride Hell’s Chasm is a great, dense stand-alone fantasy and is clean as a whistle, though not without violence and threat.


The Joy of Erudition | 83 comments Gabi wrote: "A sci-fi series that - as far as I recall - has no gore or sexual content is Skyward by Brandon Sanderson starting with Starsight."

Are you suggesting to skip book 1 of the series? Starsight is book 2.


message 17: by Gabi (new)

Gabi | 3441 comments Nope. Of course the series has to be started with book 1. I clicked on the wrong link, sorry!


message 18: by Nicole Coleman (new)

Nicole Coleman | 1 comments Saga of the Pliocene Exile, Intervention and Galactic Milieu series (all linked) by Julian May were my favourites as a teen. I reread them annually for close to a decade. It’s been a decade since I read them. Might be about time to go again.
Zero swearing from my memory. No sexual content worth noting.
I began with Intervention accidentally, then Milieu. Which means I read them chronologically (for the most part) rather than the way they were written. Personally I enjoyed it better that way. It felt you evolved with humanity instead of being thrown full length into the futuristic parts at the start.


message 19: by Sha (last edited Nov 11, 2022 10:25PM) (new)

Sha | 112 comments Almost any book by Diana Wynne Jones might work, I think. Especially the Chrestomanci books. I'd personally rec either Howl’s Moving Castle or Dark Lord of Derkholm, though. Those a little more complex in concept. Especially Derkholm, which is an affectionate parody of sorts.

I'd also rec A Wizard’s Guide to Defensive Baking. Other T. Kingfisher books are good too, but I think this is the least dark one.

Sorcery & Cecelia: or The Enchanted Chocolate Pot and the sequels might fit your requirements.

The Goblin Emperor and The Hands of the Emperor tend to give me very similar vibes. They do not have sexual content and the violence (if any; I cannot remember anything in HotE) is not very gory. They are both very slow-paced books, though- which may not be what you're looking for. (I love them, but I can see why they may not be for everyone.)


message 20: by Evan (new)

Evan Peterson | 10 comments One of my favorite comfort reads is the YA Duet of Dragonsong/Dragonsinger by Anne McCaffery. While the rest of her Dragonriders of Pern series is weighted down by a decidedly rapey version of � romance�, these two are the wholesome Dickensian formula of a girl running away from an oppressive homelife to befriend a gaggle of miniature dragons and head off to boarding school to become a composer/Harper.


message 21: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Connell (sarahconnell) | 314 comments I think Sabriel would fit - it does have a kiss if I remember but it comes out of nowhere and has no relevance really to the rest of the story.


The Joy of Erudition | 83 comments Sarah wrote: "I think Sabriel would fit - it does have a kiss if I remember but it comes out of nowhere and has no relevance really to the rest of the story."
There is a loudly amorous couple in the room next door to hers at one point.


message 23: by Mario (new)

Mario Kumi | 20 comments Foundation series by Issac Asimov.

Is a monumental epic sci-fi and philosophical series. A cornerstone of science fiction.


message 24: by Ian (new)

Ian Slater (yohanan) | 397 comments Mario wrote: "Foundation series by Issac Asimov.

Is a monumental epic sci-fi and philosophical series. A cornerstone of science fiction."


The acceptable part of the series (for this thread( would be mainly the original set of stories, from the 1940s, collected as The Foundation Trilogy, consisting of the separately published volumes Foundation, Foundation and Empire, and Second Foundation. In the first half or so, characters are male, although I think one is mentioned as having a mistress. And in the latter half one character has designs on the wife of another.

With the exception of the opening short story, a replacement for a much shorter magazine version, these were all published in the rather puritanical "Astounding Science Fiction" as installments in a series. They were separate from his simultaneously ongoing Robot series, set in the much nearer future, and originally collected, with some linking passages, as I, Robot.

Between them, the two sets of stories established Asimov as a major voice in the small world of genre science fiction

With the exceptions of Pebble in the Sky and The Stars, Like Dust, from the early 1950s, the rest of the books in the Foundation series were written much later (late 1980s and early 1990s), in a very different market, and those stories usually have, by at least implication, sexual content some readers may find disturbing. You can check the Wikipedia bibliography for the other titles involved:

This is also true of the early Robot stories, with one exception, written in the same time frame, and collected in I, Robot, plus the slightly later novels, The Caves of Steel and The Naked Sun. These were connected to the Galactic Empire and the First and Second Foundations in later stories, to create an extended "Future History," in some later books.


message 25: by Lore (new)

Lore Christo | 5 comments This may come out of left field but the Artemis Fowl series might be worth a look at, there's no sex or love interests and any violence is more comical. They make a good light read, even though they are rated as kids books.I gave them to my Uncle who was over 70 and he enjoyed them.


message 26: by Jessicamatty (new)

Jessicamatty | 1 comments I don’t read tons of SciFi but when I read a book in the genre I like, I love it. The first one I thought of when I saw this question was Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson. It was fun, had great characters, I liked the world he created, got quite cerebral at moments, and most importantly, tells a good story. In my 20s I read a lot of William Gibson and enjoyed it a lot as well.


message 27: by Melanie, the neutral party (new)

Melanie | 1536 comments Mod
Ranger's Apprentice series start with The Ruins of Gorlan


message 28: by Jacqie (new)

Jacqie | 30 comments Snow Crash does feature a rape trap dentata early on if that's a concern for clean reading.


message 29: by Bobby (last edited Dec 26, 2022 02:00PM) (new)

Bobby Durrett | 219 comments My children own various series that I have read that are pretty clean but I don’t know if they are your taste.

A Series of Unfortunate Events - Lemony Snicket
Warriors (about cats) - Erin Hunter
Gregor series - Suzanne Collins
The 39 Clues - Multiple authors including Rick Riordan
Hunger Games - may be too violent - Suzanne Collins
Percy Jackson you mentioned - Rick Riordan
Septimus Heap series - Angie Sage

These may be too young for you but I enjoyed them and hopefully they are clean enough.

Bobby


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Ryan | 1739 comments Mod
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message 31: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2364 comments Jessicamatty wrote: "I don’t read tons of SciFi but when I read a book in the genre I like, I love it. The first one I thought of when I saw this question was Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson. It was fun, had great charac..."

I think it is a pass due to the somewhat less than a clean label. I agree it is a great book, but it does have some fairly graphic sex.


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