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Why does egalitarianism invite tyranny?
In his mind, what's the difference between democratic principles, which he seems to detest, and a "republican" government?
What is "territorial" in contrast to purely popular?
How does a contractual theory of government entail tyranny? Can't the majority reject despotism, especially if Church and state are seen as separate spheres?

Soloviev astutely observes than human beings require religion. Bishop Barron's commencement address at Hillsdale poses the graduates three questions: What kind of person will you be (one who inflicts evil or suffers it)? Whom/what do you worship? What audience matters to you?
Reading Kolnai in the Appendix, I wonder if sexual impurity is so central as to deaden all morality.
very telling: Worse than loss of belief in immortality is loss of desire for immortality.
How can he assert that unbelief deadens one's creative imagination? Haven't there been great works of art that embody evil?
I don't understand why opposition to the death penalty must be rooted in secular humanism.
Jill wrote: "I don't understand why opposition to the death penalty must be rooted in secular humanism."
I agree with you. While I'm not a pacifist, I've always opposed the death penalty. I believe in "self defense," but society should be able to defend itself against particular persons without killing them.
I agree with you. While I'm not a pacifist, I've always opposed the death penalty. I believe in "self defense," but society should be able to defend itself against particular persons without killing them.
Jill wrote: "Haven't there been great works of art that embody evil?"
Jill, can you think of an example of a great work of art that embodies evil?
Jill, can you think of an example of a great work of art that embodies evil?

Why does egalitarianism invite tyranny?.."
Because anybody who is outstanding in any way has to be suppressed, as the mere presence of someone who is better or has different ideas goes against egalitarianism.

Jill wrote: "Van Gogh?"
Is that in response to my question? If so, do you really think Van Gogh's extraordinary art embodies evil?
Is that in response to my question? If so, do you really think Van Gogh's extraordinary art embodies evil?

With respect, Fonch, my question was directed to Jill who identified Van Gogh as an artist who embodied evil in his art.
In the event that is what Jill is referring to, although Van Gogh's suicide was of course sin, and an evil act, that is different than saying evil is embodied in his art.
Serrano's Piss Christ qualifies as embodying evil, but I would argue strenuously that it is not art in any way, let alone great art, rather vulgar trash. It is frankly scandalous that Serrano was recently welcomed to the Vatican by Pope Francis with no evidence of any conversion or repentance by the "artist." Scandalous, but in keeping with Maloney's criticism that this pope is not adequately alert to the difference between Christianity and humanitarianism and the malign influence of the latter on the former.
In the event that is what Jill is referring to, although Van Gogh's suicide was of course sin, and an evil act, that is different than saying evil is embodied in his art.
Serrano's Piss Christ qualifies as embodying evil, but I would argue strenuously that it is not art in any way, let alone great art, rather vulgar trash. It is frankly scandalous that Serrano was recently welcomed to the Vatican by Pope Francis with no evidence of any conversion or repentance by the "artist." Scandalous, but in keeping with Maloney's criticism that this pope is not adequately alert to the difference between Christianity and humanitarianism and the malign influence of the latter on the former.

Jill wrote: "I wasn't saying Van Gogh was a bad person (only God can judge) but that one might see an embodiment of evil in his tortured art, a counter-example to the assertion that creative imagination is limi..."
And I would disagree that there is an embodiment of evil in his art and you don't even seem certain of the claim. So I don't think it is a good counter-example.
And I would disagree that there is an embodiment of evil in his art and you don't even seem certain of the claim. So I don't think it is a good counter-example.
John wrote: "Jill wrote: "I wasn't saying Van Gogh was a bad person (only God can judge) but that one might see an embodiment of evil in his tortured art, a counter-example to the assertion that creative imagin..."
I can't see an embodiment of evil in "The Sunflowers" :-)
I can't see an embodiment of evil in "The Sunflowers" :-)