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What about indigenous medicines? Many of them have apparently been efficacious for hundreds of years.
And naturopathy? I'm a firm believer in Western medicine, but my sister has a good friend who is a naturopath and she and her family use many of his remedies and swear by them. I'm sceptical, but I've never tried them.
And naturopathy? I'm a firm believer in Western medicine, but my sister has a good friend who is a naturopath and she and her family use many of his remedies and swear by them. I'm sceptical, but I've never tried them.


All of the above is the reason I took classes to become a Nutritional Therapy Practitioner even though I'm not currently working in that field. Education is never a waste! There are a lot of great solutions out there that western medicine scoffs at. It's really very sad. Some of those solutions, like diet changes and yoga, are very inexpensive.

I also loved Gut Feelings: The Microbiome and Our Health Alessio Fasano but that was a highly technical book that anyone not intensely interested in the subject would find boring. I believe it took me several months to read it.
Jessica wrote: "... I think Western medicine often treats problems that are not real medical problems but are instead the result of the Standard American Diet. Food is medicine...."
Amen to that! Food is medicine.
Amen to that! Food is medicine.

I also agree that diet is probably the biggest factor in our health. I recently read How Not to Age and it was enough to convince me to become mostly plant based and make some other dietary changes. I grew up on the Standard American Diet (in Canada) and needed prescription heartburn medication as a teenager. Then I moved to Asia, started eating way more vegetables, less meat and fat, and the problem went away.
Erica wrote: "Interesting conversation! I live in China, am a science teacher, and am very skeptical of Traditional Chinese Medicine, but my husband is Chinese and studying TCM part time. He’s learned acupunctur..."
Erica, I agree with everything you wrote. I am also a skeptic, but my wife studied Chinese medicine and acupuncture, and practiced it for quite a while.
Like you, I used to suffer from heartburn. Years ago I switched to a plant-based diet. My heartburn stopped, and has never come back. Is that just a correlation or causation?
Erica, I agree with everything you wrote. I am also a skeptic, but my wife studied Chinese medicine and acupuncture, and practiced it for quite a while.
Like you, I used to suffer from heartburn. Years ago I switched to a plant-based diet. My heartburn stopped, and has never come back. Is that just a correlation or causation?

I needed prescription heartburn medication as a teenager as well! Nobody asked me how much Mountain Dew I was drinking in a day even though I carried a bottle around religiously. They sold it at my school, a tragedy in and of itself.
Books mentioned in this topic
The Good Virus: The Amazing Story and Forgotten Promise of the Phage (other topics)Gut Feelings: The Microbiome and Our Health (other topics)
Authors mentioned in this topic
Tom Ireland (other topics)Alessio Fasano (other topics)
But there are other, well-developed systems of medicine. I am thinking of Eastern medicine, such as Chinese (traditional and classical) medicine and acupuncture, herbs and cupping, Japanese and Korean acupuncture, and Indian ayurveda. These Eastern, holistic systems are thousands of years old; they are often efficacious, but are not easily explained in terms of Western medicine. Some scientific research has attempted to investigate how Eastern medicine works, but it seems to be relatively unexplored in terms of modern science.
My father was a doctor (Western medicine). During a trip to China, he went to a hospital and observed open heart surgery. No anesthetic was used. Just acupuncture, and the patient did not appear to be in distress during the surgery! And from personal experience, I know that Eastern medicine can diagnose ills by carefully feeling a patient's pulse. Someone I know was cured of a bad addiction to smoking, by a single acupuncture treatment.
So, is medicine in Western countries missing the boat? There are lots of "alternative" medicines that seem to be scams, or at best placebo effects. But Eastern medicines have cured innumerable patients over the centuries. Should Western societies pay more attention to them?