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message 1: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (last edited Nov 17, 2024 11:44AM) (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Here is our line-up for 2025:

Jan/Feb: Two Scandinavian Dramatists: Henrik Ibsen and August Strindberg

Mar/April: French Female Prize Winners: Simone de Beauvoir and Marguerite Duras

May/June: Two Japanese Novelists: Jun'ichirō Tanizaki and Kōbō Abe

July/Aug: Spanish Civil War Connection: Federico García Lorca and Mercè Rodoreda

Sept/Oct: Ancient Greek Dramatists: Aeschylus, Sophocles, Euripides, and Aristophanes

Nov/Dec: The Finer Things in Life: Marguerite Yourcenar and Françoise Sagan


message 2: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (last edited Oct 08, 2024 02:46PM) (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Any author pairs that don't make it unto the schedule but get at least two votes will get another chance in the following year.

These two pairs are on their last chance:

The Two V's from India:
ī쾱 - Ramayana
Vyasa - Mahabharata

A Happy Couple?
Max Frisch - Switzerland
Ingeborg Bachmann -Austria


message 3: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (last edited Oct 09, 2024 03:28PM) (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Moderator's Suggestions:

Two Scandinavian Dramatists
Henrik Ibsen - Norway
August Strindberg - Sweden
* supported by Luis
*supported by Piyangie
*supported by Nancy

Masters of the Fairy Tale
Jacob Grimm and Wilhelm Grimm - Germany
Hans Christian Andersen- Denmark
* supported by Jen

Ancient Greek Dramatists
Tragedy-Aeschylus, Sophocles, Euripides
Comedy- Aristophanes
*supported by Jen
*supported by Kathy
*supported by Piyangie
*supported by Nancy

Two South African Authors
Alan Paton
Olive Schreiner


Members Suggestions:

Spanish Civil War Connection: from Jen
Federico García Lorca-Spain
Mercè Rodoreda -Catalonia
*supported by Rosemarie
*supported by Luis

Members of the Académie Francaise: from Nancy
François Mauriac
Joseph Kessel
*supported by Luis

Two French authors of detective novels: from Nancy
Gaston Leroux
Émile Gaboriau
*supported by Rosemarie
*supported by Lorraine

Two Prize-Winners from France: from Lorraine
Simone de Beauvoir
Marguerite Duras
*supported by Jen
*supported by Nancy
*supported by Luis
*supported by Kathy

Cross-Cultural Connection: from Jen
Albert Camus-born in Algeria, lived in France
Alba de Céspedes- born in Cuba, lived in Italy
*supported by Rosemarie
*supported by Luis

Two Japanese Novelists-from Jen
Jun'ichirō Tanizaki
Kōbō Abe
*supported by Lorraine

The Finer Things in Life-from Lorraine
Marguerite Yourcenar-France
Françoise Sagan-France
*supported by Kathy
*supported by Luis
*supported by Jen


message 4: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
The nomination thread will be open roughly for the month of October.

Don't hesitate to brainstorm here if you're looking for help.


message 5: by Jen (new)

Jen R. (rosetung) | 387 comments I've been wanting to check out Federico García Lorca of Spain (1898-1936). I thought of pairing him with Mercè Rodoreda of Catalonia (1908-1983).

From GR bios, I see they both have connection with the Spanish Civil War. He was murdered by nationalists at the start of it and she is seen as an important writer of postwar period.


message 6: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Sounds good, Jen.


message 7: by í (new)

í (blue_78) | 4200 comments I'll second Henrik Ibsen and August Strindberg.


message 8: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Great! Thanks, Luis.


message 9: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (last edited Oct 06, 2024 12:31AM) (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Here's another Moderator's Suggestion:

Ancient Greek Dramatists:
Tragedy- Aeschylus, Sophocles, Euripides
Comedy- Aristophanes
(I'm aware that there are four authors instead of two, but all three tragedians are so good I couldn't choose just one.)
*supported by Jen
*supported by Kathy
*supported by Piyangie


message 10: by Jen (new)

Jen R. (rosetung) | 387 comments I’ll support the ancient Greeks :)


message 11: by Kathy (new)

Kathy E | 2197 comments I also support the ancient Greeks.


message 12: by Piyangie, Classical Princess (new)

Piyangie | 3253 comments Mod
I support ancient Greek dramatists and Scandinavian dramatists.


message 13: by Piyangie, Classical Princess (new)

Piyangie | 3253 comments Mod
Can we support more than one, Rosemarie?


message 14: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
You can support 3, Piyangie.


message 15: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (last edited Oct 07, 2024 01:26PM) (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Members are welcome to suggest pairs!

For now, you can support up to three pairs.
If more pairs are added-and we do need any suggestions-you can support the equivalent of half of the pairs, not half of a pair.
That will create the list for the semi-finals(or finals if there aren't that many).


message 16: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Another suggestion:

Two South African writers:
Olive Schreiner
Alan Paton


message 17: by Nancy (new)

Nancy Suggestion: France


François Mauriac (Nobel Prize Winner 1952)
Joseph Kessel (Elected to the Académie française in 1962)


message 18: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Thank you, Nancy.


message 19: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Message 2 has been updated with the complete list of new pairs.
Message 1 has the two pairs that have been carried over from last year.


message 20: by Nancy (new)

Nancy Nancy wrote: "Suggestion: France


François Mauriac (Nobel Prize Winner 1952)
Joseph Kessel (Elected to the Académie française in 1962)"


I support: The Ancients - France ( of course) and Scandinavian dramatists.


message 21: by í (new)

í (blue_78) | 4200 comments I also support François Mauriac.


message 22: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
As usual, one group of pairs will be a Moderator's Choice-whether it will be one of the pairs on the list or an altogether different one depends on how the current pairs are doing.

Remember: the more choice the merrier!

So please keep your suggestions coming in!

Thank you to those who have already brought forward their pairs.


message 23: by Nancy (last edited Oct 07, 2024 08:23AM) (new)

Nancy Suggestion France:


Gaston Leroux
Émile Gaboriau


message 24: by í (last edited Oct 07, 2024 10:28AM) (new)

í (blue_78) | 4200 comments I also support García Lorca.


message 25: by Jen (new)

Jen R. (rosetung) | 387 comments Rosemarie wrote: "As usual, one group of pairs will be a Moderator's Choice-whether it will be one of the pairs on the list or an altogether different one depends on how the current pairs are doing.

Remember: the m..."


Other ideas:

From Italy:
Alba de Céspedes and Anna Maria Ortese

From Algeria:
Albert Camus and Frantz Fanon

From Japan, these 3 authors have books I'm curious about:
Jun'ichirō Tanizaki
Kōbō Abe
Osamu Dazai


message 26: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Thanks, everyone!


message 27: by í (last edited Oct 07, 2024 12:56PM) (new)

í (blue_78) | 4200 comments From Japan, I second Tanizaki. From Italy, I second Alba de Céspedes. And from Algeria, I second Albert Camus.


message 28: by Jen (new)

Jen R. (rosetung) | 387 comments Luìs, or anyone, do you have different ideas they can be paired with if you only like one author in the sets?


message 29: by í (new)

í (blue_78) | 4200 comments I think that Camus can be paired with Tanizaki. But that's just an opinion.


message 30: by í (new)

í (blue_78) | 4200 comments And Lorca with Céspedes.


message 31: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
The pairs have to have something substantial in common, not just the same country or genre.
Camus could be paired with another author was born outside of the main country. He was considered to be an outsider by the "real" French authors.


message 32: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Jen, regarding the Japanese authors, which pair woud you prefer? We've already read The Makioka Sisters before you joined our group.


message 33: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (last edited Oct 07, 2024 01:29PM) (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
The authors need to be nominated in pairs, please.
The pairs in Message 1 and 2 cannot be split up.
Anything that isn't on those lists can be rearranged, but once it's there, it's a fixed pair.

I'm not adding any more pairs to those lists until at least tomorrow so you have some time to mix and match!

If you can find a valid link between two authors- go for it!


message 34: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Nancy wrote: "Suggestion France:


Gaston Leroux
Émile Gaboriau"


Great choice. I'll add them to the list tomorrow.


message 35: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Each time a set up two pairs is added to the master list, you will be able to support one more pair.
I'll let you know each time the list is updated, and also the maximum number of pairs you can support in total.


message 36: by Jen (new)

Jen R. (rosetung) | 387 comments I am not so very knowledgeable of them but from what I gather� Camus and de Cespedes are both of cross cultural backgrounds in different ways and both in their own ways were fighting fascist regimes of WW2.


message 37: by Lorraine (last edited Oct 07, 2024 02:30PM) (new)

Lorraine | 364 comments Rosemarie, would 2 women winner of Nobel work as a pair?
and if yes, they should not be Canadian, American or British. Is that it?

Or The Goncourt?
Like Simone de Beauvoir et Marguerite Duras?


message 38: by í (new)

í (blue_78) | 4200 comments Lorraine wrote: "Rosemarie, would 2 women winner of Nobel work as a pair?
and if yes, they should not be Canadian, American or British. Is that it?"


I agree with Lorraine!


message 39: by Jen (new)

Jen R. (rosetung) | 387 comments I would support de Beauvoir and Duras if that one is a go!


message 40: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Lorraine wrote: "Rosemarie, would 2 women winner of Nobel work as a pair?
and if yes, they should not be Canadian, American or British. Is that it?

Or The Goncourt?
Like Simone de Beauvoir et Marguerite Duras?"


Definitely!


message 41: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Jen wrote: "I am not so very knowledgeable of them but from what I gather� Camus and de Cespedes are both of cross cultural backgrounds in different ways and both in their own ways were fighting fascist regime..."

That's a good connection, Jen. How readily available are Cespedes' works in translation? Camus is easy to find in French and in translation.


message 42: by Jen (new)

Jen R. (rosetung) | 387 comments @Rosemarie, I have been noticing a lot of English-readers reading her lately - that’s really why I’ve learned of her here on GR. I think perhaps Forbidden Notebook has a new recent translation by Ann Goldstein who’s known for translating Ferrante and Morante.
I see two books of hers on my Libby but I am lucky in having a library membership in a major city. I actually was gifted a copy of Forbidden Notebook recently. Print of this one is easy to find. My guess is Her Side of the Story is also easy to find.


message 43: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
That's good to know, Jen. I'll update Message 2 about a day from now and that pair will be on it.
And also the two French authors suggested by Nancy.


message 44: by Lorraine (new)

Lorraine | 364 comments I support the Japanese author
From Japan, these 3 authors have books I'm curious about:
Jun'ichirō Tanizaki
Kōbō Abe
Osamu Dazai

I would prefer Tanizaki and Abe but I am fine with other members choices


message 45: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
I'll add Tanizaki and Abe tomorrow as well, since their books are probably easier to get than Dazai's.


message 46: by Lorraine (last edited Oct 07, 2024 04:59PM) (new)

Lorraine | 364 comments Another suggestion...

Marguerite Yourcenar
Françoise Sagan

Sagan, known for her novel Bonjour Tristesse (1954), shared with Yourcenar a love for the finer things in life. Sagan, a lover of wine, fast cars, and luxurious living, contrasted with Yourcenar’s more contemplative style but still indulged in worldly pleasures like good wine, which Yourcenar also enjoyed. While their styles differ, Sagan’s love for French culture, wit, and sophistication echoes Yourcenar’s appreciation for refinement.

Can we say, both lover of good wine? or refinement ?😊


message 47: by Jen (new)

Jen R. (rosetung) | 387 comments Rosemarie wrote: "That's good to know, Jen. I'll update Message 2 about a day from now and that pair will be on it.
And also the two French authors suggested by Nancy."


what about Lorraine's French/prize winner women? I would give a vote to them.

also, it looks like you have support from Nancy under nomination from Nancy. was that meant to be someone else's name as support?


message 48: by Lorraine (new)

Lorraine | 364 comments Rosemarie wrote: "I'll add Tanizaki and Abe tomorrow as well, since their books are probably easier to get than Dazai's."

I agree. Dazai books are hard to find in my part of the world.


message 49: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Thanks for catching that, Jen! It's been adjusted.


message 50: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 14807 comments Mod
Lorraine, I love the wine connection between the two authors!
I'll think of a clever way to phrase it.


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