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Rebecca, I wonder if we could have a folder for UNSOLVED books as it might be easier to find the ones that still need help. New requests for help would be placed in the UNSOLVED folder. (It seems that new requests are now being placed under both GENERAL and GROUP SUGGESTIONS files so harder to find.)

Also, I see that some of the solved books are not getting moved to the SOLVED folder. Any ideas for "solving" this problem?

This is the best group ever! It's just amazing how many items everyone has helped me personally solved! Thanks to all!

Hey everyone, I'm new to this group. I love it! such a good idea for a group. However i completely agree with coralie, maybe I'm a little OCD, but do you think there is anyway we can move all those solved discussions out of the general folder. Its hard to help people when there are so many discussions in there! I would do it myself, but i think they can only be moved by the person who started the discussion....

Or the moderator, correct. However, what you probably didn't realize is that each one that you posted your request to is now marked as having a new post. And for those of us who check all threads with new posts, that is rather irritating.

oh im sorry! this is the first group i've joined and i was just trying to go back and see if i could answer any unsolved questions, but half of them were already solved so i was just trying to organize it so i didn't keep looking at the same ones over and over, i didn't think about how they would show up as a new post. i've deleted them now!

As I said, I was sure it was accidental. And I do hope our moderator makes one of her infrequent visits and moves solved queries to the right folders sometime soon.

Hi everyone. Remember, as with emails, be careful of unintended tone, coming off much harsher than intended.

Rebecca, is there a way for you to appointment a other people as co-moderators or "editors" or something like that? They we could help maintain the list as well. (Or, if there is a setting, we can try so that every group member can edit posts. An experiment in group responsibility!)

Emily & Rebecca & All,

Everyone can edit their own posts, including title and folder placement.

If Rebecca wants to remain sole moderator maybe something in bold in the group description to make it clear that posters are responsible for changing their own posts as books are found may be helpful. It wouldn't get 100% accurate results but might get to most posters here.

I know we've asked in the Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ Feedback group about group members being able to do some moderator tasks, but for some sound reasons in many groups, moderators want sole control. So, I think posts will be able to be edited only by the moderator(s) or those who posted them.

Hi. I'm new to Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ and haven't figured how to even suggest a lost book. Is there some sort of instruction available?
Also, what is a spoiler? A review that reveals the end of the plot, or a nasty summation? Is there a glossary? Thanks to all in advance.

Fredsky,

If you have a lost book you want to find, come to this group and post in the UNSOLVED folder. Click new for a new post, then there's a pull down menu for the proper folder. Give your post a title that tells some information about the book so just looking at the title will give some helpful information, and in the comment box key in as much information as you remember about it. There's a pull down menu and select unsolved as your folder.

A spoiler, usually found in a book review here, is yes, giving away the ending of a book, or even simply giving too much of the plot/contents of a book.

If you read someone else's post and know what the book is that they're looking for, read their request and its thread, then post a comment at the bottom of that thread with the book information.

Does that help?

Thanks, Lisa. I just made a post! I've noticed that lately most bookjacket blurbs are spoilers in themselves. What's going on? It's as if the editors want to write for TV or something.

Fredsky, I agree about book covers and professional reviews as well. I still like to read them though.

Not everyone is so touchy about spoilers. I frankly don't care about them at all. There are reasons to read a book other than plot. And I think people's knees jerk too hard and they tend to go a little overboard with screaming "SPOILER!!" like when people get upset if you reveal that King Lear dies at the end of King Lear, or something.

I have a friend who just wrote a book and she said that the blurbs and jacket copy were (she was told) not for us, the reader, but for the Few, the Powerful book buyers. Apparently they don't read the books, just the jackets/blurbs and that's how they base their order decisions. Sigh.

Lazygal, Maybe I should stop reading every work in a book, especially re the book jacket.

Laura, I completely agree with you when it come to the classics or books already known to the culture, but many of the spoilers are for books published in 2008, 2007, little known modern era books, etc.

Lisa, the spoilers are there for the buyers at B&N, etc, not for us mere readers.

Lazygal, Yes, I got that from your post # 14. That's unfortunate for me as I have this habit of reading every single word on and in the cover, all dedications, forwards, etc. before reading the book. I then read any notes, usually as I'm reading, occasionally at the end, and all & any text that comes after the text of the book itself. Habits are difficult to change.

Edit: I wish they'd stop it. I'll bet book buyers who do not read the books could be swayed by the cover art alone. The cover designers could also write scintillating text that doesn't contain spoilers.

Cover designers don't wrote flap copy. The copy department writes it.

I understand that some people put spoilers in for more recent books. My point was that not everyone cares that much about spoilers, especially when they're for subsidiary plot points.

Lisa,

How do you choose a book to read? Apart from recommendations or following up an author or some specific enticement? When you walk into a library and hit the shelves, cold, how do you choose?

I start off in the new fiction section and circle out from there. First, title, author, and edge of the book (color, typeface, thickness). Then I pull it out. Male or female author? Inside cover until it annoys me. If I'm still interested, check author's picture on back flap. Do I want to spend time with this person at all? And who took the photograph, a relative?) Then, finally, I read the first paragraph. Good voice? Any sign of a dead animal? And so on.

How about you?

Fredsky,

I actually spend very little time in libraries (or bookstores) anymore. I find books that I want to read, reserve them at the library, and pick them up when they are ready.

I've found many, many books to read because of Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ. Fortunately or unfortunately? Otherwise, I check for new books by authors I know, read (nearly) countless reviews in newspapers, publications, and on web sites, and in my subsription emails,) get recommendations from friends, and occasionally do find myself in bookstores (my favorite but dangerous places) where I look in many sections; my reading taste is eclectic.

Could I make a request that people remember to move their queries into the "Solved" folders when they're done? It makes the board a lot easier to read that way. Thanks.

Fredsky wrote: "Thanks, Lisa. I just made a post! I've noticed that lately most bookjacket blurbs are spoilers in themselves. What's going on? It's as if the editors want to write for TV or something."

Fredsky, I'm with you. I hate spoilers. I usually won't even read the summary on the back of the book, or the book flap. If I know it's fiction I want to read, I won't read the book reviews. Even if something was written 100-200 years ago, if I haven't read it, it's full of spoilers for me and I want to go into it blind.

Emily wrote: "Hey everyone, I'm new to this group. I love it! such a good idea for a group. However i completely agree with coralie, maybe I'm a little OCD, but do you think there is anyway we can move all those..."
It overwhelms me also Emily. we are OCD together. lol

Also talking about spoilers I am on the side that does not care about reading them. but to each his own.

Fredsky wrote: "Lisa,

How do you choose a book to read? Apart from recommendations or following up an author or some specific enticement? When you walk into a library and hit the shelves, cold, how do you choos..."

Would never get to the book if I had to go through this system. Wear me out, but that is just me.