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Hi Everybody,

One project this group is behind on is shelving all the found books.

Any member can shelve books, so it would be appreciated that if a book of yours is found, you add it to the group's bookshelves.

This is a long term project, but I will try to shelve all our found books. (Help from other members is also appreciated.)

The shelves match our folder titles. Please don't add shelves without group discussion. Remember, these are group, not personal, shelves.

Here are instructions for shelving books:

1. From the group's home page click on the "bookshelf" link.

2. In the "add books" search box enter your book's title or title and author.

3. When you see your book on the results page, click on the "add to group" box. (You can first choose the edition of your choice by clicking on the "other editions" link right below that box if you'd like to do that.)

4. You'll then get to a box. The first thing you do is click on the "choose shelves" link.

5. Then, put a check mark on all the shelves that are applicable to your book.

6. Close that smaller shelves box. (ETA: This is sometimes, but not always, an optional step.)

7. In the big book box that remains, click save.

8. Voila! Your book will now be shelved in our group, and will be searchable in all the shelves you selected.

Have fun!

I like this idea. I always try to shelve something if I find it or if something is found for me. However, I wonder if there's any way to avoid wasted duplication of effort. Like, maybe volunteering for date ranges in certain folders?

Nikki, That's a good idea.

Members, please use this thread to volunteer for sections you might want to work on: folders/dates. Thanks!

Also, all members, if you've found your book but don't want to shelve it yourself, please ask for it to be shelved and I will shelve those books. Thank you.

I've worked on adding books to the group shelves a couple of times, but not for quite some time. I've mostly worked with the children's/YA books. I always started from the oldest posts and worked my way forward - skipping those that were already on the shelves. I'll work in that folder again when I get some time.

Thank you very much, Luann!!

I'm adding the brand new solves if the member who posted does not. At some point (hopefully not too far in the future) I'll choose some folder to work on.

I've noticed that most of the ones in the "other" folder could actually fit on the adult, ya, children's, or non-fiction shelves. Easily.

The ones I'm not sure how to shelve (including one currently open query) are short stories that often aren't in Å·±¦ÓéÀÖ as standalone books. Some are, but most aren't. So, it would be helpful if members gave us a book in which they're included, if they know of one.

Please remember to select all the shelves that your book belongs on, not just the default read shelf. Thanks.

Also, thanks to an idea from Lobstergirl, in the why we are reading this book section, I've been entering in the URL of the discussion thread for each found book, so doing that, when you shelve books, would also be appreciated.

Thanks so much.

My book was found and I moved it in the "solved" folder but I can't seem to access the "add books" button so it's unshelved. Sorry about that!

carriedaway wrote: "My book was found and I moved it in the "solved" folder but I can't seem to access the "add books" button so it's unshelved. Sorry about that!"

What book is it? I"ll shelve it for you.

Who's That Lady in the President's Bed?
Thanks, Lisa!

carriedaway wrote: "Who's That Lady in the President's Bed?
Thanks, Lisa!"

I'd already shelved it. ;-) If it's solved and I see it's not shelved, I will shelve it.

Hmm, this step isn't included on any of the (many :P) how-to-run your query posts... Why are we shelving books? How does that help? I mean if it's solved, isn't that the point (well, in addition to preserving the solve for google/etc to find later: e.g.: /topic/show/... )?

We shelve them partly to know which books we've found and partly because sometimes checking out other people's description of a thread searching for a book can help. Which is why we also put links to the threads of the book that is shelved into it. And we put ALL of the threads. Go to the bookshelf and do a search for Invitation to the Game and you'll see all the people who have looked for that book. (And there are quite a few. It's one of the more popular YA books that people search for.)

Hello, I was wondering if it was possible to have the shelves broken down some more? Say that you were wondering if there was a Historical Romance or even a MM romance or something like that, and you start going through the Adult Fiction file you would have to go all the way through it just to find the one book. I realize that there is the search button, but what if you wanted to look for books just like the one that you were looking for? You wouldn't really know what was out there.

Please consider my thoughts. I believe that everyone would appreciate this as well.

Drizzt, this has been requested before and basically the reason is that it would create a huge amount of extra work for Mods, and also sometimes neither the Mods nor the poster know exactly what genre it is.

Right now with shelves we have Children's and YA combined in one section, and I can't even tell you how much easier that makes it for Mods. There's not even agreement among readers sometimes whether a book is Children's or YA, so dividing those two would be a huge hassle.

Or Science Fiction vs. Fantasy - you would have a similar issue.

One thing I can recommend to you is search within the group on what genre you want, like Historical Romance or "MM Romance" in the title field. If posters are doing a good job crafting their headers, that will often show up.

Thank you I'll try it.

Members, don't forget, if you are going to shelve the book that your thread relates to, inside the edit function where it says "Why this book?" enter the URL of the thread. On the group bookshelves this URL will appear behind the click "about."

Move your thread to SOLVED. Then edit your header so the end of the header has an [s] for "shelved." But don't add that [s] unless you did actually shelve the book because that gets really confusing.

If your book shows up as grayed out when you go to shelve it, that means it has already been shelved in relation to another thread, and you should add your thread URL to the "Why this book" box of the existing record (rather than creating a new one) and select the "asked for more than once" shelf in addition to whatever other shelf you are putting it on.

Also you don't have to shelve your own book. Any mod can shelve it for you.

Just out of curiosity, why do we bother shelving the books when the Solved thread always (ok, usually lol) has a link to the book? Does shelving it have some added value?

I would say the added value of shelving is that shelves are searchable, and the search results look different from just searching the group as a whole.

Also the way we use shelves, whether a book is the solution to one query or 15 queries, there will only be one shelving, and all the URLs for those queries will be together in one place, when you click on "about."

Group bookshelves can also be sorted by the headers: author, title, date shelved, etc., which can be useful.

Group shelves have additional functionality which we don't use - the shelf names can be used as tags. For example if you shelved "Charlotte's Web" you could tag it as children, middle-grades, farm animals, farms, spiders, pigs, death, etc. Clearly if shelves were used as tags things would get out of control pretty quickly and it would also drive mods batshit crazy, which is why we severely limit the number of shelves. But the functionality is there.

Having said that, group shelves are still way less functional than individual user shelves.

Gotcha. Thanks!

Lisa wrote: "Hi Everybody,

One project this group is behind on is shelving all the found books.

Any member can shelve books, so it would be appreciated that if a book of yours is found, you add it to the gro..."

Kayla wrote: "I seriously need help. lol. There is a book about an artist who goes by the name "X". He creates murals to give directions to an underground club of some sort. He is also in a group for like counse..."

Kayla, please post your request in the Unsolved folder because you're looking for a specific book. Tell us what year you read the book, and include plot details in the Topic header.

Hello Group Members:

Please note that for security reasons, including but not limited to keeping spamming authors from adding their books to the group shelves, we no longer allow members to shelve books.

However, members are still able to move their threads from Unsolved to Solved if they wish to do so (they are not required to).

Since the topic of this thread was about members shelving books, we're now closing it.