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July/August Group Read: The Thirteenth Tale by Diane Setterfield
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Same here! I've been meaning to take the time from tackling my TBR mountain to go back and read it. A group discussion might be just the motivation!







Any suggestions? Maybe 50's?


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Another indicator of the time is that Margaret always dons a hat and gloves even when it's not winter, that was the fashion. So I would say the 50's maybe 60's.





About the gloves, I have only found a reference to her wearing gloves when handling rare books (I may have missed other references or not got there yet). When handling rare books or manuscripts it is essential to where cotton, lint free gloves to protect the paper fron the acids etc present in the skin.
Any way, less of my ramblings! I am convinced of the 50's


Another comment about gloves. The story is in Yorkshire in the winter, it can get **! cold sometimes and gloves would be essential to go out.
I believe that the main thread of the story, Margaret's time, takes place in the 90s. I say this because of the feeling that I got from the story of Isabelle Angelfield, which I believe took place either around 1910 or at the very latest 1920ish.
The style of dress that was described seems more 20s-ish to me than earlier, and they had automobiles, so that leads me to think that it was the 20s or so since vehicles would have been more widespread and common.
And Vida I believe is in or near her 80s (if I remember correctly - it's been a while!) so that would make sense too...
But I love how it was left unclear, so that we each interpret it to be the time that feels right to us. :)
The style of dress that was described seems more 20s-ish to me than earlier, and they had automobiles, so that leads me to think that it was the 20s or so since vehicles would have been more widespread and common.
And Vida I believe is in or near her 80s (if I remember correctly - it's been a while!) so that would make sense too...
But I love how it was left unclear, so that we each interpret it to be the time that feels right to us. :)


I have not given more detail as it would give away some of the secrets to those who have yet to read or finish.
As Becky say's it is unclear and we can all interpret as we feel. It's just my enquiring mind.
A brilliant read well recommended. Will put it on my 'to read again' shelf.




Kimberly wrote: "Just finished reading it last night at 2:00a.m.! Really enjoyed it. Looking forward to the discussion."
Go for it... we're unstructured here. :P You can discuss whatever you like - just remember to mark spoilers for those who haven't finished yet!
Go for it... we're unstructured here. :P You can discuss whatever you like - just remember to mark spoilers for those who haven't finished yet!

Anthony, Have you thought about joining the challenge? I have found it to be fun and it makes me read books that are both inside and outside of my comfort area. It's been great. If you don't mind reading books that are depressing The Woodsman's Daughter is good as is A Map of the World. I highly recommend The Mercy of Thin Air and one of my all-time favorite books Timeline. I am in the process of reading Atonement and will begin reading The Canterbury Papers: A Novel. I think that one is going to be great. Also if you look at people's profiles you can click on the link that has the books that they have read and how they rated them for more ideas.

Anthony, Have you thought..."
I agree with you about The Canterbury Papers: A Novel...I haven't read it yet either, but it looks really good!




It is a fabulous book... I was so drawn in by Vida's tale that I couldn't stop reading if I'd wanted to. I had to know what happened.
The one thing that I did feel was just a bit out of place though, was what Margaret found in the box...
****Spoilers****
Stop reading now if you don't wanna see it...
Last chance...
OK! If you're still reading, prepare to be spoiled... {Spoiler continued} ...about Margaret's dead twin sister. I didn't really understand that part, as it didn't really connect to the story at all. I get that it was supposed to allow her to identify with a twin, but the Angelfield twins were such UNIQUE twins that there's no way that anyone would really be able to identify with them, so Margaret's twin just felt a little out of place and unnecessary for me, especially since Margaret had never known her.
End of spoiler. :)
The one thing that I did feel was just a bit out of place though, was what Margaret found in the box...
****Spoilers****
Stop reading now if you don't wanna see it...
Last chance...
OK! If you're still reading, prepare to be spoiled... {Spoiler continued} ...about Margaret's dead twin sister. I didn't really understand that part, as it didn't really connect to the story at all. I get that it was supposed to allow her to identify with a twin, but the Angelfield twins were such UNIQUE twins that there's no way that anyone would really be able to identify with them, so Margaret's twin just felt a little out of place and unnecessary for me, especially since Margaret had never known her.
End of spoiler. :)

Since Vida played like her twin was dead I think involving Margarets twin was a way to get Margaret to identify with Vida concerning a loss of a twin. And yes Margaret never knew her sister but I think this whole book is grounded in the bond between twins. Plus I got the impression that Margaret was part of conjoined twins which would make the bond really strange to match Vida's although not strange in the same way. Personally, twins freak me out. Someone out there with my face...creepy.

I have to agree with Becky. I found the whole twin thing strange and out of place. I think Margaret had a bit of a mental issue. She talks about going to the other side with her twin when she sees her reflection, like she can just be drawn through. I feel like I am missing something. Maybe her sister's ghost lives in her reflection (like the movie mirrors) or maybe Margaret has had a total lapse from reality. And yes Felina, Margaret was a conjoined twin, her sister couldn't live without her physically speaking. And...redheaded and super blond twins can be kinda creepy (ever watch Children of the Corn??)

I'm not sure why but the Margaret twin thing workes for me. Perhaps its because I liked both stories (Margarets and Vidas) and I liked that they intertwine in the book. And I like the twinge of the supernatural associated with Margaret and her twin. I mean, there is alot of supernatural connections with twins i.e., Reading each others minds and emotions, knowing the other is in trouble from great distances, ect. Besides the twin issue gives depth to her issues with her mother which I think is also an interesting story.
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