The History Book Club discussion
FAVORITES! AND NOT SO FAVORITES
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BOOKS THAT TOP YOUR LIST
HISTORY
by
Jacques Barzun
Jacques Barzun must have a brain the size of the planet. The above book was the equivalent of taking a four year college program. When you finished the book, you certainly knew of many areas that you could study further and more of what you did not know about.
HARDBOILED DETECTIVE CRIME NOVEL:
by
Raymond Chandler
This book shows a master at work. It probably was the precursor of the private detective type of novel. Great plot, great character development in terms of private eye Philip Marlowe. A book that all who came after him have cited that they emulate along with Chandler himself.


Jacques Barzun must have a brain the size of the planet. The above book was the equivalent of taking a four year college program. When you finished the book, you certainly knew of many areas that you could study further and more of what you did not know about.
HARDBOILED DETECTIVE CRIME NOVEL:


This book shows a master at work. It probably was the precursor of the private detective type of novel. Great plot, great character development in terms of private eye Philip Marlowe. A book that all who came after him have cited that they emulate along with Chandler himself.

World War Two

Another book that did the same thing for me covering the Great War was Martin Middlebrook's account of the Somme; "The First Day on the Somme".
World War One

These both look great.
I have to add an historical fiction book which I absolutely loved - it really is a combination of an historical novel and a war novel and has a large dose of philosophy thrown in.
RUSSIAN LITERATURE - NAPOLEONIC ERA
Epic in scale, War and Peace delineates in graphic detail events leading up to Napoleon's invasion of Russia, and the impact of the Napoleonic era on Tsarist society, as seen through the eyes of five Russian aristocratic families.
Portions of an earlier version having been serialized in the magazine The Russian Messenger between 1865 and 1867, the novel was first published in its entirety in 1869. Newsweek in 2009 ranked it top of its list of Top 100 Books.
Leo Tolstoy
I have to add an historical fiction book which I absolutely loved - it really is a combination of an historical novel and a war novel and has a large dose of philosophy thrown in.
RUSSIAN LITERATURE - NAPOLEONIC ERA
Epic in scale, War and Peace delineates in graphic detail events leading up to Napoleon's invasion of Russia, and the impact of the Napoleonic era on Tsarist society, as seen through the eyes of five Russian aristocratic families.
Portions of an earlier version having been serialized in the magazine The Russian Messenger between 1865 and 1867, the novel was first published in its entirety in 1869. Newsweek in 2009 ranked it top of its list of Top 100 Books.





Oh by the way may I suugest to all that they try Big Red Robe Oolong (Da Hong Pao) tea. Check out this link and look at the price for the tea from the original bushes.
Amazing that anybody would spend that kind of money for what amounts to a cup of tea. It gives an entirely different meaning to inviting someone over to have a cup of tea.
That book though sounds great.
That book though sounds great.
I would pick books that I read some while ago, their stories staying with me ever since and I would want to read over and over again.
As Bentley will have guessed I can't just pick one...
But here are a few (all fiction):
by
Cormac McCarthy
To me it's unique in the way that it combines deep friendship, adventure, love of the wild and nature, really marvelous horses until you get the break with shocking violence. And back to friendship, nature etc. but the young men have changed, as will have you as the reader.
by
Michael Connelly
I'm a big fan of Michael Connelly's writing. His deep sense of humanity, character building and story telling are amongst the best. I could pick any one of his novels yet decided to take this one because although you expect things to go towards Bosch finding out about the murder mystery things develop so very differently. One of my all time favorite writers!
by Paul Watkins
I'll never understand why Paul Watkins has not received more attention. A terrific writer, perfectly at home in both fiction and non-fiction. I picked this one since it is one of my favorite adventure novels. 1926 North Africa. A pilot learns about the Orteig Prize, offered to the first man to fly between Paris and New York. FABULOUS!!!!!
by
Jean-Marie Gustave Le Clézio
Nobody can write about nature, North Africa and children's wonder like JMG Le Clézio
by
Alice Sebold
a deep story about love, memory, loss, joy, heaven and healing.
Steven Pressfield
Simply historical fiction at its best. Nuff said.
Jean Giraud
Graphic storytelling can't get any better than this. The adventure, characters, the pace, the drawing - a pure delight.
Have fun!
As Bentley will have guessed I can't just pick one...
But here are a few (all fiction):


To me it's unique in the way that it combines deep friendship, adventure, love of the wild and nature, really marvelous horses until you get the break with shocking violence. And back to friendship, nature etc. but the young men have changed, as will have you as the reader.


I'm a big fan of Michael Connelly's writing. His deep sense of humanity, character building and story telling are amongst the best. I could pick any one of his novels yet decided to take this one because although you expect things to go towards Bosch finding out about the murder mystery things develop so very differently. One of my all time favorite writers!

I'll never understand why Paul Watkins has not received more attention. A terrific writer, perfectly at home in both fiction and non-fiction. I picked this one since it is one of my favorite adventure novels. 1926 North Africa. A pilot learns about the Orteig Prize, offered to the first man to fly between Paris and New York. FABULOUS!!!!!


Nobody can write about nature, North Africa and children's wonder like JMG Le Clézio


a deep story about love, memory, loss, joy, heaven and healing.


Simply historical fiction at its best. Nuff said.

Graphic storytelling can't get any better than this. The adventure, characters, the pace, the drawing - a pure delight.
Have fun!
Some of these I am very familiar with and they are terrific; but others may become new friends. Thanks Andre.



Jacques Barzun must hav..."
Bentley,
I've never read




it has nothing to do with history unless you looking for significance in the Lucky Dog carts of New Orleans.


The beginning of a series of historical mysteries set in ancient Rome.
by
Steven Saylor
This book is what started my interest in Roman history.


This book is what started my interest in Roman history.
Chris wrote: "Bentley wrote: "HISTORY
by
Jacques Barzun
Jacques..."
You know I loved the movie; but I love the book better. This book really was the Bible for everyone who came after Chandler. Chandler was amazing. I just heard Michael Chabon speaking about how much he owed Chandler. And I think this book was tops. I reread Chandler regularly.
Michael Chabon


Jacques..."
You know I loved the movie; but I love the book better. This book really was the Bible for everyone who came after Chandler. Chandler was amazing. I just heard Michael Chabon speaking about how much he owed Chandler. And I think this book was tops. I reread Chandler regularly.









"This book is not only a history of the Zulus, the 'Black Spartans', from their rise under Shaka to the deliberated destruction of the independent Zulu nation through the war forced on them by Sir Bartle Frere, but also a full-scale immensely knowledgeable account of the British Colonial and military policy in relation to Southern Africa, and of the men who carried it out." - PUNCH

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Interesting. Fall helped bring Senator Edward Kennedy to change his thinking about the Vietnam War.






Great book. Don't forget the author link in addition to the cover and author photo. Great add John.


John wrote: "If not at the top of my list of favorite books, then in the top three actually has a historical setting. It is
by
This novel of World Wa..."
I concur. It's alternately hysterically funny and heartbreaking.


I concur. It's alternately hysterically funny and heartbreaking.



I always enjoy reading history books that reveal new information that is different than the prevailing version of history. Three books I would recommend include FDR's Deadly Secret by Eric Fettmann, a convincing argument that Roosevelt did not die from cerebral hemorrhage, but rather cancer that began as melanoma. Robert B. Beginner's Day of Deceit: The Truth about FDR and Pearl Harbor examines evidence that suggests Roosevelt knew about Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor beforehand. He let it happen so that America would enter the war and help England. Civilization One: The World Is Not as You Thought it Was by Christopher Knight claims that there is evidence that early civilizations have a common heritage. Sorry I don't have hyperlinks for these books; I am typing this on my kindle.
What books that challenge established history do you recommend?




I'll tell you one that I don't recommend. What would you think if you are a reader of the history of the Great War and the author's forward states that he doesn't know much about WWI?....and it went downhill from there.

Favorite
It is impossible to name my favorite history book since there are many but the book noted below may be one of the greatest histories of Nazi Germany.



The front dust jacket of the hardcover “Feet First� has a bold photo of Finney and his lifelong friend Ernest Hemmingway sitting side by side on the back of a boat with bare feet in the air. To say Ben Finney lived life in the 20th Century is an understatement as the tough nut Marine loved to party. Each tale is revealing and I will recall a few of his self professed hilarious pranks until the day I die.
The book is now one of my favorites as noted in my posted review.

Finney is also the author of "Once A Marine Always A Marine" with the foreward by his good Friend USMC General Lem Shepherd the 20th Commandant of the Marine Corps.
Once a Marine-Always a Marine (no cover) by Ben Finney (no photo)

Science Fiction




Biography


History


This is what the subtitle says. Breathtaking in scope and erudition and also nicely written.

Young Adult/SF


When I was 10, I got sick with something or other (measles maybe?). My mother gave me this book. I read it. Then I read it again. This is the book that turned me from someone who knew how to read into a READER.
Briefly, it concerns the adventures of Meg, Charles Wallace, Calvin and several strange women as they battle "IT" - a manifestation of evil.
Philosophy ?/Computers/Math/Logic/Music


Nearly impossible to categorize, but this book is all about the phenomena of recursion and self-reference. Brilliant and deep.
Thrillers


The first book that kept me up all night reading.
Some right wing Frenchmen, enraged by the loss of Algeria, have decided to assassinate Charles de Gaulle. They hire "the jackal" to do it. He has his wits and some money and the French leader's refusal to change his plans for security reasons. His opposition has the entire legal and military establishment of France.
Great suggestions Peter, Mike, Mark, Jill, Bryan, Ken, Vicki, Michael, Andre, Aussie Rick, Michael, Chris, Alisa.
Folks, keep them coming.
Folks, keep them coming.

Not so favorite
I hate to admit this but I just can't get into anything by Henry James. I have tried The Turn of the Screw at least three times but just couldn't get through it. He takes 5 pages to make one statement......his book are way too verbose for me but I think I am in the minority.



The first book which was made in to a popular movie was:





In a similar way I fell in love with well written historical fiction reading A Voices in The Wind by Francine Rivers. It gave me a view of what History was like in the first Christian Century which launched me to then read many more books and some primary sources on the topic that rounded about my reading of the Bible.




HISTORICAL FICTION


Follows several fictional families in the Chesapeake Bay area from the 16th to 20th centuries. Each section begins with a journey. I can't see a flock of geese overhead without thinking about this book.
NONFICTION/HISTORY

I love how this book focuses on the iconic James River and the interplay of cultures - British, African, and Native American - from early civilization to the end of the Civil War. Very beautifully written.

I do this also, Donna. Great to find someone else who likes to get their history in different flavors. :-)

I rarely read a book more than once, except for a select few:






If I had to name a favorite author, it would be Chaim Potok. I have read all of his books, more than once.

I have not read a lot of baseball books, but consider myself a fan of America's great pasttime. For me, Bottom of the 33rd was a wonderful story that had a way of illustrating the quirks, rich history, personalities, and art and science of this wonderful sport.
BASEBALL

There is something about the sports history book I find quite fascinating, and the best of these types of books weave in the history of the time as well as the dimensions of the sport. The Boys in the Boat is about an unlikely university rowing crew who competed for the Gold in the 1936 Olympics in Berlin, often referred to as Hitler's Olympics. Amazing story, expertly written, could not put it down.
ROWING/OLYMPICS/HITLER'S GERMANY


Power and Plenty by Findlay & O'Rourke - a great book about the history of geopolitics of international trade/globalization. Highly topical issue now with the rise of China and all its consequences on the global system. One of my favourite history books recently.Power and Plenty: Trade, War, and the World Economy in the Second Millennium


Good attempt at the citation. Just need cover and author link:


HISTORICAL FICTION


Mantel has gotten a lot of attention for her books centering on Thomas Cromwell. This earlier novel of the French Revolution, following Robespierre, Danton and Desmoulins from their childhood to the Terror, was just as compelling though less focused.
MYSTERY


I enjoyed all the books in Hillerman's Leaphorn/Chee series but I think this one is my favorite.

The Rex Stout Nero Wolfe books are at the top of my list but there is another, not very well known book that is right up there too.



A very special piece of historical crime fiction (which I don't usually read), but much more than that.

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English Passengers (historical fiction) is about a 19th century ship journey to Australia.
If the Black Death itself was interesting, I recently read





Then you might also enjoy




Thanks for the suggestion Dimitri. I have the Ziegler, which I started some years ago, but found it very "dry" (little human interest), which is why I later found and read


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You did a great job....but one little nit. the book English Passengers does have a book cover and should look like this.





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It would be nice to hear a little about these books and why you feel that they are tops on your list.
Since this The History Book Club and primarily a non fiction group; I hope that there will be more than a few of this genre.
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Bentley