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That's what makes the character of George so compelling. He did something, on the surface, so brutal, and so inhuman, while in reality doing the only humane thing he could've done. His character is juxtaposed with that of the old man who owns the sick dog and lets someone ELSE shoot him. Most of us are more like him than George, I think.





You make a valid point, but if Lenny was alone he would die for sure, but if George was alone he would thrive in life. So if Lenny was going to die anyway by a stranger, George could kill him now and he would die by a friend. Why should George pay the final price of death for something Lenny did?



So you're saying that, if you die, your friend should kill themselves also, because that's what a 'true friend' would do?
Oh come on. Let's be realistic, unless what happened to Lennie was George's fault, he has no real reason to feel guilt. George was a great friend to Lennie, and Lennie was a great friend/companion to George. He did a really grand gesture by killing Lennie in a more humane way, rather than letting Curley's mob of crazy men get his hands on him.
What would George committing suicide prove? That he's a good friend? That he's not selfish? Hardly. He already proved that. He stuck by George all those years. In fact, it must have truly pained him to kill Lennie, Lennie was the only thing that made George different from all the other migrant workers, he was his friend, he had someone. By killing Lennie, he became like everyone else.
I think that act, shows how selfless George really is, and I highly doubt Lennie would want George to kill himself to prove he's a good friend. In fact, if Lennie wanted George to die with him, then HE if anyone, would be the terrible friend.
Killing yourself, because you don't want to be alone doesn't show you're a good friend, it's almost an act of selfishness. Coming to terms, with the fact that he would have to live without Lennie and killing him himself, was an amazing way of showing just how much Lennie meant to George.


very well written, thank you for clearing your point up.
Honestly, I believe that George acted like the best friend he could to Lennie in such a terrible situation. Had George decided to not kill Lennie, Lennie would have suffered at the hands of Curley, and that would have been a billion times worse than what ultimately happened to him. Lennie did not like Curley; Curley always antagonized him. He fought back at George’s permission when Curley pushed him. He destroyed Curley’s hand. It would have terrified him if Curley had killed him. Especially because Curley intended to ensure that the death be as long and painful as he could make it.
If Curley had not gotten to him, Lennie still would have suffered a bad fate. He would have been locked up, trapped like some savage animal. George knew that Lennie could not withstand that. He needed help, more help than George provided to him, sadly. :( No one understood that; no one really understood or empathized with mentally disabled people. Lennie was not capable of handling it.
So, George took matters into his own hands. He killed Lennie. By taking into consideration everything that occurred with Candy’s dog, George did the best thing he could for Lennie.
I don’t know if I possess the bravery that George possessed in that situation. I don’t know if I would have the heart to do that to my best friend, even if it was the right thing to do.
He made the worst choice a friend could possibly ever need to make, and now he has to live with it. He has to live with the loneliness he experiences without Lennie by his side. He has to live with knowing that he did the best he could for Lennie, but that the best was not good enough. He has to live with knowing that he used to be like all the others that failed to understand Lennie. He has to live without a dream. After all, his dream and his inclusion died with Lennie.
And to me, that is the true testament of friendship. He made the choice, with shaking hands, as he realized that it wasn’t going to be okay anymore. Lennie can rest peacefully, true. However, George has to cope with the repercussions and forever enduring pain of losing all hope and friendship. Even killing himself physically never compares to that sacrifice of killing his soul.
If Curley had not gotten to him, Lennie still would have suffered a bad fate. He would have been locked up, trapped like some savage animal. George knew that Lennie could not withstand that. He needed help, more help than George provided to him, sadly. :( No one understood that; no one really understood or empathized with mentally disabled people. Lennie was not capable of handling it.
So, George took matters into his own hands. He killed Lennie. By taking into consideration everything that occurred with Candy’s dog, George did the best thing he could for Lennie.
I don’t know if I possess the bravery that George possessed in that situation. I don’t know if I would have the heart to do that to my best friend, even if it was the right thing to do.
He made the worst choice a friend could possibly ever need to make, and now he has to live with it. He has to live with the loneliness he experiences without Lennie by his side. He has to live with knowing that he did the best he could for Lennie, but that the best was not good enough. He has to live with knowing that he used to be like all the others that failed to understand Lennie. He has to live without a dream. After all, his dream and his inclusion died with Lennie.
And to me, that is the true testament of friendship. He made the choice, with shaking hands, as he realized that it wasn’t going to be okay anymore. Lennie can rest peacefully, true. However, George has to cope with the repercussions and forever enduring pain of losing all hope and friendship. Even killing himself physically never compares to that sacrifice of killing his soul.



I love the ending when George makes Lennie become as happy as he can be by start talking to him about the rabbits, and their the plan to have their own farm, before then taking his live without let him know it is coming. It is very humane and Lennie deserve this fast and less painful death, since he is obviously never ment no harm to anybody.



My religion (Islam) forbids killing people, how about innocent.


That sounds a lot like me. OR, just as likely, I would've totally screwed myself by trying to take him on the run. (and probably got myself hanged right along with him)


I would have told him to run, to get lost, said him hurtful things so he would go away. I am not sure if that plan would have worked, but I couldn't have killed him because I don't have the nerve to kill.

As was said earlier, the whole theme of the book is conflict and friendship. In many ways, shooting Lennie was the most definite act of friendship George could have done. It meant sacrificing everything he had since he relied on Lennie himself as a companion, but it was the kinder action for Lennie's own sake. By giving up his best friend in order to save Lennie from himself, George acted in probably the most selfless way he could. Even at the end though he treated Lennie with kindness, by giving him a final mental image of the ranch they would one day own, with his beloved rabbits.
Yasmine wrote: "Then I would have fled to the nearest city and gotten myself a job to get rich! "
That's a great idea, except the book was set in the 1930s at the height of the Great Depression, so getting rich was tough for the majority of people. :P

Holy shit! I hope for everyone's sake you never meet or give birth to a mentally retarded person, because apparently you'll just kill them! Holy shit!

I don't think the point is about morality or the characters' fitness to be part of society. It's about men's dependence upon and responsibilities to each other.




"Yasmine" you really need some people skills along with some teaching/lessons about people like Lennie. If you are truely that cold hearted, I pity you... Sad.
George loved his friend he did the right thing, hard as it was.


These are the life and death questions that are so difficult to make, a la Sophie`s Choice,partial birth abortions, a gun to your head, you have to kill a loved one....etc. etc. This is life at its cruelest.


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Given the times, the way Lennie would have been treated in an asylum or at the hands of someone like Curley, I'd have had no option but to do just as George did. Pull the trigger. It was a mercy killing, just as the killing of Candy's dog was.
This scene was every bit as powerful, if not more, than when Anna Karenina threw herself under a train.
It was the perfect ending, the only logical conclusion, given the way the plot and characters were developed. Everything pointed logically to this one terminal act that satisfied the demands established beforehand.



Very interesting responses though
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