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A Storm of Swords (A Song of Ice and Fire, #3) by George R.R. Martin (buddy 3rd in series read) start date August 10th
Questions for Chapter 12 (Tyrion) - Chapter 15 (Sansa)32) Laughed at Vary's dressing up as a woman.
33) Do you think Tyrion will use the steps in Vary's bedroom to his advantage in the future?
34) I'm thinking Shae will be Tyrion's downfall. Anyone else?
35) Cersei is such a tease. She is doing what she told Sansa she does - bear a different kind of weapon. There is a word for women like her.
36) Here's a thought, after pondering Lisa's thoughts about Tyrion's dad, could he have tried to get rid of his son by framing him? Could he have sent the assassin after Bran?
37) What do you think of Arya's new "friends"? Should she have revealed herself to Harwin? Who the heck is he with?
38) I think Robb just signed his own death warrant. He did a stupid thing. Anyone else agree?
39) Gah! Who the heck is Tansy and do we really care?
40) Seems like we have a bit of a problem communicating our ideas in Kingdom Robb. Wonder how Robb's uncle likes being bossed around by his nephew?
41) Jon is having problems of a feminine nature. Talk about blackmail. Any thoughts on this? Think wedding bells are in Jon's future?
42) Mammoths and Giants! How fun. Wonder if the Mammoth is a Sigil of any houses?
I feel I'm forgetting something. If anyone wants to add a question let me know.
Questions for Chapter 16 (Sansa) - Chapter 19 (Tyrion)
43) Should Sansa have left with Ser Dontos?
44) Well this answers my previous question - Arya should not have trusted the band of theives. Do you think Gendry will come to her aid?
45) Like how Sam managed to rise to the occasion and kill the Other. Interesting thing about the obsidian. Weren't the arrowheads and things that Jon found in the buried box also made of obsidian?
46) Looks like the black brothers are no more. Those left are fleeing for their lives. I don't think we know exactly who all survived. Sounded like Sam sent messages when they were first attacked and then let the rest of the birds free. Wonder what those who were warned will think? Do you think they'll believe the Others have returned?
47)Thoughts about Sansa marrying Tyrion? She will freak. Anyone see this one coming?
48) Cersei being forced to marry? That is precious. I think her father is looking to punish her. Do you think she'll marry or refuse?
49) Tywin knows what Robb did. Anyone else thinking we'll be seeing an end to Robb's reign?
Questions for Chapter 20 (Catelyn) � Chapter 23 (Daenerys)
50) Well Martin didn’t sugarcoat it, did he? That was quite a descriptive passage of a brutal assassination, IMHO. Did you know who the two young boys were before it was revealed?
51) Book quote: “How can it be treason to kill Lannisters, when it is not treason to free them?� Whoa! No cut-and-paste caricatures here. Did you think this arguing point, made by Karstark, had any validity?
52) Did you believe that King Robb would hold Karstark as a hostage or kill him? Were you surprised he wielded the poleaxe himself? He has a lot of his father in him, does he not? Will this bring about his downfall?
53) Book quote: “Bowmen are fearless so long as they can hide behind walls and shoot at you from afar, but if you come at them, they run.� Seems Jaime is not above teaching Brienne. Comments on this and their forest fight scene?
54) Jaime thinks of returning Sansa, for his own amusement, doesn’t believe Brienne deserves gang-raping, and wants her to stretch the truth about her Sapphire Isle to save her hide. Does he have any redeeming qualities? Sounds like the “methage� Vargo Hoat would send Lord Tywin is a body part of Jaime’s. Any idea what part world make him scream like that?
55) I have long been trying to figure out whose side Lord Beric Dondarrion, of Blackhaven, is on. He was sent out by Lord Stark, when he was Hand to the King, to capture Ser Gregor Clegane. Now Arya finds out Lord Beric was hanged, but Thoros revived him. It appears he is out for himself now � well, and the people in his vicinity � correct?
56) Poor Arya, she (and me) doesn’t know who has switched sides � or when � in all these battles, assassinations, and political power plays. Are you keeping them all straight?
57) I think Gendry thought Arya, after a fierce scrubbing and trimming, looked pretty appealing and didn’t know how to handle it. You? I think this has been asked before, but do you think there's potential for a romantic relationship between Arya and Gendry? Talk about a one-two punch. Now they would have some clout, correct?
58) Was I the only one smiling over Arya’s comment about her Needle work?
59) The slaver, Kraznys mo Nakloz, said “whore� one too many times (IMHO); think he will pay for that bit of jackassery?
60) Book Quote: Tap, tap, tap. Who the hell is Whitebeard?
61) Were you impressed that Dany didn’t consign her “handling� by Irri as a dream, nor her as a bedslave, and told her so?
62) Book quote: Dany did not turn. She could not bear to look at him just now. If she did, she might well slap him again. Or cry. Or kiss him. And never know which was right and which was wrong and which was maddess. So far a kiss and a slap; Ser Jorah did stir up some emotions in Dany. Comments.
63) Man-oh-man! Dany is smack-dab in the middle of a dilemma. We know how she detests slavery. Whatever will her decision be?
Questions for Chapter 24 (Bran) - Chapter 27 (Daenerys)
64) We finally have a Bran chapter where something useful is found. Yay! Do you think the group will continue to the wall? What do you think they'll find?
65) The story the of the Knight and the Laughing Tree - Could it have been about Lyanna and how the Starks became friends with the Reeds (did I get everyone straight?)?
66) Think Davos will allow himself to become a shadow baby? Did she make a good argument for herself? Is Melisandre's offer of pleasure enough to sway him? I cringed at that one. Can't imagine anyone wanting to close and personal with her after seeing her birth a shadow baby. Talk about a mood spoiler. Gah!
67) Do you think Stannis is still alive? No one has seen him for awhile.
68) Now we find Stannis' Hand has been imprisoned for treason. Do you think it's treason?
69) Lord Alester has rings. Could he be the mysterious man Arya saw in the first book? I'm not sure the rest of the description fits.
70) Putting on my fortune telling hat (or would that be scarves) and predicting that Ygritte will die and Jon will step into the role his destiny was supposed to take. Any thoughts? I agree with whoever said they don't like Ygritte. I don't either, and I don't know why.
71) Did anyone else wonder at one time if Ygritte, at the beginning, was being used as a tool to secure Jon's loyalty? After this chapter, however, I really believe she loves him.
72) Did you get upset when Dany offered up Dragos?
73) Did you see the Dragon attack coming? I wondered, but wasn't sure how it'd play out.
74) Thoughts on Dany's statement,"Justice...that's what Kings are for."
75) What did you think of the warning and who do you think the woman was who uttered it? I'm thinking Melisandre.
76) Who is your favorite character at this point?
Questions for Chapter 28 (Sansa) - Chapter 31(Jaime)
77) I feel so bad for both Sansa and Tyrion. What an awful position for the two of them to be put in. Sansa doesn't trust any of the Lannisters and can't see past the outer shell of Tyrion to his inner beauty. Tyrion has wedded a 12 year old girl. He sees it like it is and doesn't force her. Gotta love him and feel awful for him at the same time. Curse you Cersei and Tywin! Okay got my meladramatic moment out of the way. :)
78) The Tyrells acted like Sansa had the plague. Do you think they thought she knew she'd be wed to Tyrion?
79) Joffrey disgusts me. I hope he gets his in the end. He's one character I wouldn't miss. Anyone else agree?
80) Loved Tyrion's standing his ground and not allowing them to have a traditional bedding. Do you think not having sealed the deal will prove to be a mistake for both of them?
81) Tansy's secret identity is finally revealed. Now what the heck does she have to do with anything? Okay here's something I've been pondering for a while. Could she be Tyrion's Tysha? His first wife? I know crazy, right?
82) I think Gendry has a crush on Arya. He acted awful strange when she said he wasn't her brother. Could she like him too? I think the Lady doth protest too much.:)
83) Arya seems to once again be in the frying pan. I'm worried for her. Is anyone else?
84) I now know why I dislike Ygritte. She keeps telling Jon he knows nothing. Getting a bit annoyed by that.
85) The Horn of Winter - I think I know what happened to it, but does Jon have it?
86) Jaime is proving himself to be a nice guy. Darn him. I can't believe he lost his hand. I feel awful for him. Liked his statement that Brienne was his protector. I'm extremely sad the two won't be able to sword fight again. *sniff* Any thoughts on what happened and about the new knowledge we gained?
Questions for Chapter 32(Tyrion) - Chapter 35 (Catelyn)
87) I felt so bad for Tyrion when his feelings were displayed about the kind of marriage he wanted with Sansa.
88) Guess Jaime isn't going to need that second sword. Notice how Lord Tywin didn't offer it to Tyrion.
89) I don't know about anyone else but I'm pretty suspicious of the singer. Does he have an ulterior motive? He and Tyrion's girl seem to know way more than they should. Could they be spies or something worse? Remember how she wanted access to the wedding as well?
90) Now know the messages said nothing about the others. Wonder where the Others are now?
91) Does anyone remember Janos Slynt? Is he the one who had a problem with Jon?
92) Anyone else shocked by the death of Ser Mormont and Craster?
93) Samwell and Gilly? What do you make of the escape? As a mom of three children my first thought was, "Ouch!" I can't imagine going on a journey after just giving birth. Will she be able to help him get to the wall? Traveling with a new born? Will all of them make it?
94) Who are Cater's sons? That sounded questionable.
95) What did you think of the confrontation between the Hound and Arya?
96) The men they're with still baffle me. Are they good or bad? They say they're Robert's men. What does that mean and what will they do with Arya?
97) Would you trust the Freys? Weren't one of the boys killed part Frey? I don't think I'd trust them.
Questions for Chapter 36 Davos � Chapter 39 Arya98.It’s refreshing to see Stannis awake and lucid. How surprised were you that he asked Davos to be Hand of the King? Why do you suppose Stannis trusts Davos so much?
99. Melisandre asks Stannis for “the boy� so she can wake the “stone dragon.� Is “the boy� Edric? What is the “stone dragon?� Do you think she’s asking for a sacrifice or just drops of blood? (My guess is sacrifice.) Were you surprised that Stannis told her no?
100.I continue to be surprised by and impressed with Jaime. He tells Brienne he killed Aerys to prevent him from burning King’s Landing. Why didn’t he tell anyone? He says he didn’t because he swore to keep the king’s secrets, but the guy was dead for goodness� sake! I think Jaime could have saved his reputation if everyone had known about this.
101.I couldn’t help but feel sorry for Jaime has he tries to eat one-handed. I’m getting worried for Brienne since Bolton plans to send her to Vargo, and send Jaime to King’s Landing. I hope she comes up with a brilliant escape plan!
102.Just an observation: Brienne is learning that oaths don’t mean much. She’s disappointed that Jaime, Robb and Tyrion have all broken their promises. Do you think now she will be more wary and less naïve?
103.Roose Bolton says that Arya has been found and will be returned safely to the North. Does he know that Arya was the girl who had been serving him? I think not.
104.Well, now we have even more reason to hate Cersei if the story of Tyrion as a baby that Prince Oberyn told is true. Do you believe the story, or do you think Oberyn is trying to turn Tyrion against Cersei (not that he hasn’t already turned against her!). It’s really hard to fathom a 9-year-old girl being so cruel to her own baby brother! I like how Jaime came to Tyrion’s defense (in the tale).
105.How will Cersei react to the new wedding guests?
106.Why do they keep letting the Hound go? He’s nothing but trouble!
107.Were you surprised Gendry wanted to stay with the outlaws rather than serve at Riverrun?
Questions for Chapter 40 (Bran) - Chapter 43 (Arya)
108) I can't believe how close Bran and Jon were to each other. Seems to be another think Martin likes to do. Always so close yet so far.
109) "Aye," said Jojen, "but one man willing to forswear himself would be enough to sell your secret to the ironmen or the Bastard of Bolton."
Anyone else think this might be some foreshadowing? I thought of Janos Slynt when I read it.
110) Surprised Jon wouldn't kill the old man or are you more surprised he bolted and left the Wildings?
111) Do you think Ygritte and Jon are too different for it ever to have worked out?
112) Do you think he learned enough to leave?
113) What did you think of Dany's battle plans?
114) Thought of how she told Ser Jorah to stop his possessive/jealous behavior? Was it the right thing to do?
115) Thoughts on Daario Nahris? Lovely present he brought Dany.
116) We learned more about Rheagar. Still we don't have the full story.
117) Darn it my theory about Jon was wrong. Drats! I liked my theory about his birth more.
118) Darn it just when I thought Arya might be headed for safety Sandor kidnaps her. Noooooooooo!
Questions for Chapter 44 Jaime to Chapter 47 Arya
119. In a flashback we see that Jaime realized he was chosen for the Kingsguard merely to spite Tywin. How do you think this affected him? Perhaps he wanted to kill Aerys long before Robert’s troops closed in.
120. Jaime continues his road to sainthood by rescuing Brienne from a bear. Next he will rescue drowning puppies and save Timmy from a burning building. :-) Why do you think he went back to Harrenhall? Could it be he cares (not romantically, just in a “brotherhood� kind of way)? Has Jaime truly changed since he pushed Bran out the window? How much does losing his hand have to do with his 180?
121. Uh-oh. The old crone predicted that Riverrun would be taken, and here we have Robb keeping his wife and her family “safe� at Riverrun while he goes to Edmure’s wedding. Over and over we are told how safe it is. I have a bad feeling about this.
122. I wanted to high-five Robb when he told Catelyn he was going to name Jon Snow his heir! I fear this means the end of Robb is near, though. I was bothered at Catelyn taking this so personally. She felt trapped by this. I am not sure why she felt this way.
123. Samwell prays to the Gods for help and lo and behold the ravens save him and Gilly from the wights. Coincidence? Who was the mysterious elk-rider?
124. I enjoyed watching Arya trying to kill and/or escape the Hound. Did you know he was taking her to her mother? Since he had been relatively kind to Sansa, it makes sense he wouldn’t be too cruel to Arya. I’m glad his goal is to get her to the Twins instead of Riverrun. GRRM is probably just teasing us again,though.
Questions for Chapter 48 (Jon) - Chapter 51 (Catelyn)
Wow! on of the smallest sections of 4 chapters we've read thus far, but it packed a punch.
125)Poor Jon. Finds out about the false reports about Bran andd Rickon and finds out what happened to Mormont. Plus, the wall is almost deserted. I'm a little worried that the wall will be overtaken while Jon is out of it. Were you surprised to find some of the brothers had returned and told the story of what happened?
126) Jon's confession about Ygritte shows how he feels guilty about what happened. Think a Jon junior will result from their relationship?
127) I can't believe, well yes I can, what happened to Robb and Catelyn. Got an uneasy feeling when Frey made the speech about not forgetting things.
128) What do you think happened to Edmure? If he's not dead how will he react to finding his sister and nephew murdered?
129) I guess we now know why they wanted Robb's wife with him.
130) Poor Arya. Once again she can't get a break. What do you think will happen to her?
131) Thoughts about the hound? Will he try to sell her off again, and, if so, to who?
Lisarenee, I'll be glad to post discussion questions on the first, second or third day - whatever is best for you. I'll still need a back-up person. :)
Feel free to assign questions to me, also!Is anyone else reading the Nook version? If so, I can figure out the "page" numbers and post for reference.
Thanks Sandy. I put you down for the 12th.
Are we only doing 2 chapters for Aug. 27?Also, on August 29 it shows ch. 74 - 77, then August 30, ch. 75 - 78. I'm sure it's just a typo somewhere...
I'm aiming for the 10th, but aCoK is 1000 pages and I need to finish it first (on top of some books that need to go back to the library the 15th). Holy Abundant Pages, Batman!
I did the breakdowns pretty late at night. lol I knew there was a reason I usually tend to do this stuff in the morning. Thank Sandy. :) I wonder why the time is different from when I did it?
No problem! I probably wouldn't have noticed, but I was creating the chapter/page list for my e-reader.
I think I fixed it. Shaved a full day off the schedule. This one is the longest of the series so far.
I'm going to get my copy today. I know I was was gonna put off reading it, but darn it I heard Tyrion calling to me.."Kelly, Kelly.... You know you want to read more...go to the library, pick up A Storm of Swords..we'll be waiting.."a little side note, I just saw this posted on another group and thought I'd share:
*just a quick warning it does contain "adult" content (like the books) and cussing.
FOFLMAO! Oh. My. Goddess. That was FUNNY, Kellyflower.
That was a fun video for a Friday morning! Thank you for sharing.
That video is too funny! I couldn't wait, I'm on Chapter 53.... oops! ;)
Christine, It is hard to wait until everyone else begins. I have to admit when I split the chapter readings apart I accidentally got a peek at some spoilers. One in particular took me by surprise.
Hahahahaha!! Hilarious! And disturbing that people put so much time into stuff like this. LOL
I'm almost halfway thru aCoK and I'll be starting The Secret Lives of the Four Wives on Friday, so it'll probably be Monday that I start aSoS.
Lisarenee wrote: "Christine, It is hard to wait until everyone else begins. I have to admit when I split the chapter readings apart I accidentally got a peek at some spoilers. One in particular took me by surprise."Not sure what part you're referring to, but there was an event that very much surprised (view spoiler) me. Just finished it & there's a real shocker in the epilogue!
Christine S. wrote: "Lisarenee wrote: "Christine, It is hard to wait until everyone else begins. I have to admit when I split the chapter readings apart I accidentally got a peek at some spoilers. One in particular too..."OK, I am resisting the urge to click on that spoiler. MUST RESIST! :-)
Sandy wrote: "OK, I am resisting the urge to click on that spoiler. MUST RESIST! :-) ..."Me too Sandy!
Okay, I'm going to write my comments and questions.
Questions for Prologue - Chapter 3 (Arya)This section didn't have a huge bunch of questions, but I thought it was a good beginning to the third book.
1) I always wondered in the back of my mind about how loyal people who were forced to take the black would be to the cause. Were you surprised that a group was ready to rebel?
2) When the horn blew for the third time were you surprised? We hadn't heard from the Others in a while and how ironic they show up with the first flakes of snow. I expected it to be the Wildings come a bit early.
3) Brienne seems quite resourceful. Were you surprised by how she took charge and put a hole through the ship with a boulder?
4) Were you surprised by Jamie being faithful to Cersei? She is definitely not faithful.
5) Who the heck sent someone to kill Bran in his bed? The plot thickens. Could it have been Littlefinger?
6) Surprised Jaime didn't bash Brienne over the head with an oar? I was.
7) I'm still confused about what potentially happened to Lysa. Did she have a child before she got married, and, if so whose?
8) Feeling any sympathy for Lysa?
9) Is Sansa doomed? Who did the worse thing Edmure or Catelyn. Both were definitely wrong.
10) We finally know what happened to Ayra. Seems like we pick up on her story were we last heard (which seems a bit out of sync with everything else) of her in the last book. Do you think her wolf is coming back? Do you think the dream was her having a mind meld with her wolf?
Sandy wrote: "OK, I am resisting the urge to click on that spoiler. MUST RESIST! :-) "LOL! Well, it isn't really a spoiler, more a sentiment. Not even sure why I hid it since it's pretty much the norm in this series!
Answer to Questions: Prologue - Chapter 3 Arya1) I always wondered in the back of my mind about how loyal people who were forced to take the black would be to the cause. Were you surprised that a group was ready to rebel?
Yes, it is surprising because my understanding is that once someone takes the black, there is no going back. If someone tries to leave, he will be killed by the Brothers or by anyone in the kingdom. (Think back to when Ned beheaded the man who left the Wall at the beginning of Book 1.) So, for them to plan a rebellion is either extremely brave or extremely stupid.
2) When the horn blew for the third time were you surprised? We hadn't heard from the Others in a while and how ironic they show up with the first flakes of snow. I expected it to be the Wildings come a bit early.
I was surprised... and it was a very good ending to the prologue! I wonder how long we will be kept in suspense to see what happens here.
3) Brienne seems quite resourceful. Were you surprised by how she took charge and put a hole through the ship with a boulder?
Brienne rocks! She and Arya are soul sisters. It was surprising how she bested the Riverrun ship, but it wasn't surprising that she came up with a good plan and executed it flawlessly.
4) Were you surprised by Jamie being faithful to Cersei? She is definitely not faithful.
She hasn't been faithful, but hasn't she slept with others merely for her own gain? I honestly can't remember anyone beside her cousin. It is surprising that Jamie has always been faithful, especially considering how strikingly handsome he is supposed to be, and that she was married to Robert all those years.
5) Who the heck sent someone to kill Bran in his bed? The plot thickens. Could it have been Littlefinger?
I started to think in the last book that Littlefinger did send the assassin, but hoped to pin it on Tyrion.
6) Surprised Jaime didn't bash Brienne over the head with an oar? I was.
Definitely surprised! Maybe he thinks she is his best bet to eventually be free, so he may as well work with her rather than against her. Plus, the knight in him just has to admire her resourcefulness.
7) I'm still confused about what potentially happened to Lysa. Did she have a child before she got married, and, if so whose?
That's a very good question. I was unclear as to whether she actually had a baby, or if she miscarried a child that wasn't her husband's.
8) Feeling any sympathy for Lysa?
My first response is Not really. But the more I think about it, maybe I do feel a bit of sympathy for her. All the women suffer in this universe in some form or another.
9) Is Sansa doomed? Who did the worse thing Edmure or Catelyn. Both were definitely wrong.
I am holding out hope that Sansa will be freed. As much as I like her plan, I do think that Catelyn was in the wrong. She had no right to make a decision for the whole team, as it were. I really like how her decision led to such exciting scenes, though!
10) We finally know what happened to Ayra. Seems like we pick up on her story were we last heard (which seems a bit out of sync with everything else) of her in the last book. Do you think her wolf is coming back? Do you think the dream was her having a mind meld with her wolf?
I did think she was mind-melding with her wolf. I was a little unclear who the victims were, though. I need to re-read that part. I am worried about this trio getting lost, though.
Questions for Prologue - Chapter 3 (Arya)3) Brienne seems quite resourceful. Were you surprised by how she took charge and put a hole through the ship with a boulder?
I wasn't surprised. I agree that Brienne is a strong character and I'm really routing for her. She may become one of my favorite characters along with Tyrion.
4) Were you surprised by Jamie being faithful to Cersei? She is definitely not faithful.
Yes. I mean he's a man and most men back then were manwhores. (or in my little mind they were) but then again..Cersei has a way of putting people under her spell.
5) Who the heck sent someone to kill Bran in his bed? The plot thickens. Could it have been Littlefinger?
I'm thinking YES it was Little finger. Or..do you think Lysa was jealous and she did it? I'm just throwing that out there because she just seems really really CRAZY!
6) Surprised Jaime didn't bash Brienne over the head with an oar? I was.
Yes, I kept thinking..OMG another character killed off too soon.
7) I'm still confused about what potentially happened to Lysa. Did she have a child before she got married, and, if so whose?
I'm just as confused as you are
Lisa Kay’s Answers to Lisarenee’s Questions for Prologue - Chapter 3 (Arya) This section didn't have a huge bunch of questions, but I thought it was a good beginning to the third book.
Great questions, Lisarenee! Thanks! :)
1) I always wondered in the back of my mind about how loyal people who were forced to take the black would be to the cause. Were you surprised that a group was ready to rebel?
I figured, considering the recruit pool, there was bound to be an “escape� attempt sooner or later.
2) When the horn blew for the third time were you surprised? We hadn't heard from the Others in a while and how ironic they show up with the first flakes of snow. I expected it to be the Wildings come a bit early.
I definitely was NOT expecting that. Ditto about the Wildings.
3) Brienne seems quite resourceful. Were you surprised by how she took charge and put a hole through the ship with a boulder?
I didn’t know what she was up to, so yes, I was impressed and astonished.
4) Were you surprised by Jamie being faithful to Cersei? She is definitely not faithful.
I think he mentioned that (out loud) to Catelyn in the last book; I took him at his word (why would he lie about that?). I was a little surprised then; I think that I mentioned in one of my posts that I believe he truly loves her. She loves him (he is the "mirror image" of herself), but she has a much more twisted idea of what love is (if that is possible).
5) Who the heck sent someone to kill Bran in his bed? The plot thickens. Could it have been Littlefinger?
I think it could be Littlefinger. You ladies have convinced me.
6) Surprised Jaime didn't bash Brienne over the head with an oar? I was.
Me too. I’ll be honest and tell you I groaned out loud when I saw we were going to read from Jaime’s POV. He’s not anywhere near a character whose thoughts I want to see inside. And yet�
7) I'm still confused about what potentially happened to Lysa. Did she have a child before she got married, and, if so whose?
I don’t know. I remain totally confused by her thought process. Why would Tansy be a pet name for Lysa? And why am I thinking, if Lysa was pregnant, it was not Lord Arryn? Maybe b/c of timing, age, and his previous inability? And if that is true, then maybe it was Littlefinger’s? Certainly, if she was pregnant b/f that, then it was probably Littlefinger’s.
8) Feeling any sympathy for Lysa?
My first response is, “Nope.� But, in the spirit of sisterhood, I do sympathize with her if she miscarried.
9) Is Sansa doomed? Who did the worse thing Edmure or Catelyn. Both were definitely wrong.
I think Martin is going to leave Sansa right where she is so that we, the reader, have “inside� eyes. I think Catelyn kind of lost it there; negates all she has set up so far. Still, I think Edmure muffed it up worse.
10) We finally know what happened to Ayra. Seems like we pick up on her story were we last heard (which seems a bit out of sync with everything else) of her in the last book. Do you think her wolf is coming back? Do you think the dream was her having a mind meld with her wolf?
Before the dedication and maps Martin made “A Note On Chronology� which explains the out-of sync-ness. Nice to see a bit of humor there with Hot Pie. I really hope Ayra’s wolf, Nymeria, is coming back; nevertheless, I don’t think Martin would let me be that happy this soon, so no, not yet. Yes, I’m thinking Mind Meld! Also, a telling event in the future.
6) Surprised Jaime didn't bash Brienne over the head with an oar? I was.Me too. I’ll be honest and tell you I groaned out loud when I saw we were going to read from Jaime’s POV. He’s not anywhere near a character whose thoughts I want to see inside. And yet�
Oh, Lisa Kay, I felt just the opposite...I was excited to get Jaime's POV to see what makes the Kingslayer tick!
@Sandy#2 - It was a good ending to the prologue, wasn't it>!
#3 "Brienne rocks! She and Arya are soul sisters."
Well said!
#4 - Yes, Cersei uses sex as a weapon. I think in the HBO show it showed her getting out of bed with Grand Maester Pycelle, did it not? I don't know for sure, as I haven't seen it.
#5 - You ladies convenience me of that last time; I still think you are all right.
#6 - "the knight in him just has to admire her resourcefulness"
True! I didn't think of that.
#7 - Whoever Tansy was, it sounds like she had a baby and there was a lot of blood. I don't know if the baby made it or if it was full term or maybe an abortion attempt.
#8 - Mind Meld! :)
#9 - I'm worried about those three getting lost, too!
@Kellyflower#3 - Yes, you could be right; like you, Brienne could b/c a fav as I'm liking her more and more.
#5 - Hum... okay, Kellyflower, LOL! That is way out there. But, yes, she is squirrel-poop-crazy and I still say she killed Lord Arryn.
#7 - Yes, very confusing. Actually, as much as I like parts of this storyline, this kind of stuff drives me nuts. I knew reading those scenes with Cat & her dad - that they were NOT GOING TO GIVE ME ANY ANSWERS and I really read them with that in mind and a "Ho hum" attitude. Maybe that affected my comprehension.
Sandy wrote: "Oh, Lisa Kay, I felt just the opposite...I was excited to get Jaime's POV to see what makes the Kingslayer tick!"Actually, Sandy, it was a pleasant surprise, to be honest. Not as bad as I feared. I always liked his dialogues with Catelyn.
Lisa Kay wrote: "@Sandy#2 - It was a good ending to the prologue, wasn't it>!
#3 "Brienne rocks! She and Arya are soul sisters."
Well said!
#4 - Yes, Cersei uses sex as a weapon. I think in the HBO show it showed..."
In the show, the woman who got out of bed with Grand Master Pycelle was Ros, the hooker with a heart of gold. :-)
That would have been funny it it was Cersei! Who else did she sleep with? There had to have been someone else...I just can't remember....I don't know about you, but I am giddy about going back to this series!
Sandy wrote: "I don't know about you, but I am giddy about going back to this series!"Sandy, I have a strong love/hate relationship with this series. It is very, very good, and I love, love, love some of the characters; but Martin is taking me on a roller-coaster ride. **sigh**
Questions for Chapter 4 (Tyrion) � Chapter 7 (Jon) 11) Poor Tyrion! His face and body so battered. Do you think Ser Bronn will remain faithful? Will he find a connection between Ser Mandon Moore and Queen Cersei? What good will it do, except give him certainty? Think he’ll act on any knowledge gained?
12) What was your initial impression of Ser Addam Marband, commander of the gold cloaks?
13) What happened to those 'almost warm feelings' the last time Lord Tywin saw Tyrion? Were you surprised Tyrion was so unappreciated by his father? Did it piss you off as much as it did me? Is this Cersei’s doing?
14) Think Lord Tywin is going to pay for his treatment of Alayaya? Is it possible you are now even more worried about Shae being discovered?
15) Were you surprised Tyrion asked for Casterly Rock? What about Lord Tywin's response? Think Tyrion will possess it one day?
16) Davos is still alive! Wow. Little bit of a vision quest taking place out there on Onion Island, huh? Comments. Now just what is he planning?
17) On first learning of Sansa’s invite from Margaery Tyrell, what did you think her motivation was?
18) Did Ser Loras really not remember Sansa? I guess I’m a little dense, but I didn’t understand how Sansa had offended Ser Loras by mentioning his unhorsing Robar Royce. Because treachery and conspiracy was involved later that day, therefore he was reminded of her father’s supposed duplicity?
19) What did you think of Lady Olenna, Queen of Thorns? Should Sansa have confided in her and her court? Can Sansa trust them? Did you think the song went along with what they were discussing in a macabre sort of way?
20) Did you feel a little sorry for Sansa, spinning her romantic notions of a knight in shining armor again? Or were you just disgusted with her naïve?
21) Did you know the turncloak, Mance Rayder, King-beyond-the-Wall, was the one sitting in the middle of the tent playing the lute and singing? Any significance in the song he sang? What did you think of his captains, chiefs? How about that he sent them away and left his wife, Dalla, to listen to their talk?
22) What do you think of Jon Snow’s “undercover� work? Will he be successful? Will he stay true? Make and alliance between the wildings and the Night’s Watch? Maybe get them to join forces to fight the Others?
Answers to Questions for Chapter 4 (Tyrion) � Chapter 7 (Jon)11) Poor Tyrion! His face and body so battered. Do you think Ser Bronn will remain faithful? Will he find a connection between Ser Mandon Moore and Queen Cersei? What good will it do, except give him certainty? Think he’ll act on any knowledge gained?
I feel bad for Tyrion too. His father is such a jerk. I don't feel knowing 100% that Ser Mandon Moore was doing what Cersei requested will do him any good.
12) What was your initial impression of Ser Addam Marband, commander of the gold cloaks?
Too soon to determine. Sounds like a good choice, but I don't know.
13) What happened to those 'almost warm feelings' the last time Lord Tywin saw Tyrion? Were you surprised Tyrion was so unappreciated by his father? Did it piss you off as much as it did me? Is this Cersei’s doing?
I dislike Tywin. He acknowledges Tyrion did good but then declares he's not his son. Gah! What an awful man. His thoughts on whores makes me think he must have really disliked Robert.
14) Think Lord Tywin is going to pay for his treatment of Alayaya? Is it possible you are now even more worried about Shae being discovered?
I don't think Tyrion is in any position to do anything to his father.
15) Were you surprised Tyrion asked for Casterly Rock? What about Lord Tywin's response? Think Tyrion will possess it one day?
No, I'm not. I don't think Tyrion has any hope of acquiring it.
16) Davos is still alive! Wow. Little bit of a vision quest taking place out there on Onion Island, huh? Comments. Now just what is he planning?
I don't know, but I want to. :)
17) On first learning of Sansa’s invite from Margaery Tyrell, what did you think her motivation was?
I was to afraid to contemplate.
18) Did Ser Loras really not remember Sansa? I guess I’m a little dense, but I didn’t understand how Sansa had offended Ser Loras by mentioning his unhorsing Robar Royce. Because treachery and conspiracy was involved later that day, therefore he was reminded of her father’s supposed duplicity?
I think perhaps there's a story there we don't know about? I was confused as well and thought maybe I'd missed something.
19) What did you think of Lady Olenna, Queen of Thorns? Should Sansa have confided in her and her court? Can Sansa trust them? Did you think the song went along with what they were discussing in a macabre sort of way?
Dang! I didn't pay attention to the song. I'll need to go back and look at it again.
20) Did you feel a little sorry for Sansa, spinning her romantic notions of a knight in shining armor again? Or were you just disgusted with her naïve?
I am disgusted with her naive thoughts.
21) Did you know the turncloak, Mance Rayder, King-beyond-the-Wall, was the one sitting in the middle of the tent playing the lute and singing? Any significance in the song he sang? What did you think of his captains, chiefs? How about that he sent them away and left his wife, Dalla, to listen to their talk?
I don't see any significance with the song. Do you? I don't know what to think of his people yet. Too brief an introduction. I think it's telling how their marriage is by his letting her stay.
22) What do you think of Jon Snow’s “undercover� work? Will he be successful? Will he stay true? Make and alliance between the wildings and the Night’s Watch? Maybe get them to join forces to fight the Others?
I have no idea yet how this one will turn out. We'll have to wait and see.
@Lisarenee#11 - Mind meld on your thoughts about Tyrion learning it might definitely be Cersei.
#12 - I felt he was nice enough to Tyrion. We'll see.
#13 - Ditto! Awful man.
#14 - Not yet!
#16 - Really! Nice mystery there. What is he planning?
#18 - So happy I'm not alone in the dark.
#19 & #21 - I only ask, b/c I did see things in the first song, but nada in the next, LOL! I figure Martin was copying J.R.R. Tolkien with the significance of the songs sung, but I couldn't figure out the second one. Unless Mance Rayder was trying to tell Jon Snow they did have a shared history. **shrugs shoulders** IDK.
#22 - Yeah! Like, for this one plus four more books! FOFL!
So you think the second song was about Jon Snow's father sampling someone's wife? Gah!
Answers to Questions for Chapter 4 (Tyrion) � Chapter 7 (Jon) 11) Poor Tyrion! His face and body so battered. Do you think Ser Bronn will remain faithful? Will he find a connection between Ser Mandon Moore and Queen Cersei? What good will it do, except give him certainty? Think he’ll act on any knowledge gained?
I do think Bronn will remain faithful, if anything for the adventures he has with Tyrion. I am not sure what will happen re: Cersei/Moore. Tyrion knows Cersei despises him already. I fear with Tywin around that Tyrion is most unwelcome at court.
12) What was your initial impression of Ser Addam Marband, commander of the gold cloaks?
Seems like he is not taking his job too seriously.
13) What happened to those 'almost warm feelings' the last time Lord Tywin saw Tyrion? Were you surprised Tyrion was so unappreciated by his father? Did it piss you off as much as it did me? Is this Cersei’s doing?
I was very angry at Tywin for his treatment of Tyrion -- his own son! What an ass! So sad that he blames Tyrion for his wife's death, but it's been what at least 30 years??
14) Think Lord Tywin is going to pay for his treatment of Alayaya? Is it possible you are now even more worried about Shae being discovered?
I am worried for Shae. Actually I'm worried for a lot of characters!
15) Were you surprised Tyrion asked for Casterly Rock? What about Lord Tywin's response? Think Tyrion will possess it one day?
I was surprised he asked for it, because he had to have known that Tywin would refuse. I have a feeling Tyrion won't get it. Perhaps Cersei's younger son will inherit?
16) Davos is still alive! Wow. Little bit of a vision quest taking place out there on Onion Island, huh? Comments. Now just what is he planning?
Don't know what he's planning, but I am glad he was saved by a friendly ship! Sad to think he lost so many sons in the battle. I wonder if he will attempt to get Stannis out of Melisandre's clutches.
17) On first learning of Sansa’s invite from Margaery Tyrell, what did you think her motivation was?
Honestly, I thought Margaery was doing it to be nice.
18) Did Ser Loras really not remember Sansa? I guess I’m a little dense, but I didn’t understand how Sansa had offended Ser Loras by mentioning his unhorsing Robar Royce. Because treachery and conspiracy was involved later that day, therefore he was reminded of her father’s supposed duplicity?
I am not sure about this. I thought it may have something to do with Loras being on Renly's side, and he didn't want anyone to be thinking about that. I have no idea who Robar Royce is..was he the one who supposedly poisoned Jon Arryn?
19) What did you think of Lady Olenna, Queen of Thorns? Should Sansa have confided in her and her court? Can Sansa trust them? Did you think the song went along with what they were discussing in a macabre sort of way?
I liked her a lot! It was refreshing that a female character could speak her mind freely. I kept thinking Sansa shouldn't trust them, but then I changed my mind. Poor Sansa needs some friends. I think a marriage to the other Tyrell brother would be a good thing, despite his disabilities. HOWEVER, I have been fooled by a lot of things in Martin's world. Maybe the brother is worse than Joffrey!
20) Did you feel a little sorry for Sansa, spinning her romantic notions of a knight in shining armor again? Or were you just disgusted with her naïve?
I felt sorry for her. Poor girl has been through a lot.
21) Did you know the turncloak, Mance Rayder, King-beyond-the-Wall, was the one sitting in the middle of the tent playing the lute and singing? Any significance in the song he sang? What did you think of his captains, chiefs? How about that he sent them away and left his wife, Dalla, to listen to their talk?
Nope I had no idea . There probably was significance in the song, but I am not sure what. His command structure seems very informal. I liked that he kept the wife around.
22) What do you think of Jon Snow’s “undercover� work? Will he be successful? Will he stay true? Make and alliance between the wildings and the Night’s Watch? Maybe get them to join forces to fight the Others?
Oh, Jon I am so worried for you! I think he and Ygritte will *ahem* get together. They think he left the Wall so I am not sure how an alliance would come about. I like Mance so far. Maybe he and Jon will become friends and Jon will confess everything...
Questions for Chapter 8 Daenerys -- Chapter 11 Jaime1.Do you think Ser Jorah is right not to trust Whitebeard? (Just an observation, since there was so little of Dany in the previous book, I liked how there was a paragraph recapping what she’s been through.)
2.We now know that Dany enjoys feeding her dragons in the nude (ha ha!). What a visual: the dragons roasting their own meat! That would come in handy at barbecues. Did you expect Ser Jorah to make a move on Dany? Do you think she will accept his proposal? I think she will be like Queen Elizabeth I and be only wed to her country.
3.Sounds like Bran is really getting the hang of using his third eye. I am unclear on why they are traveling beyond the wall. Who are they looking for (a person who can teach Bran)? Do we know specifically? I wish we could see how Rickon and Osha are faring!
4.More confusion: Davos believes that Melisandre sent the fire on the battleships, but it was the “wildfire�, right? Or did Melisandre just add to it?
5.Do you think Salladhor Saan betrayed Davos? Will Davos live to get his revenge on Melisandre?
6.Did anyone else think, “I ‘ve got a bad feeling about this� when the Kingslayer was allowed to get on a horse? Even with wrist chains, the man is crafty!
7.Bit of a digression…in this chapter Elia of Dorne is mentioned (wife of Rhaegar). Does Mance Rayder’s song about the Dornishman’s wife have something to do with her or someone related to her?
8.So, we learn that Jaime had almost been betrothed to Lysa Tully (interesting!) and that he joined the Kingsguard because Cersei wanted him too (manipulative b-tch!) Do you think Tywin knew about the twins� relationship? Is that why he resigned as Hand and took Cersei back to Casterly Rock?
9.Thoughts on Jaime killing the King? Sounds like Aerys wanted Jaime to kill his own father. I am wondering about the plan leading up to the assassination. Jaime is called Kingslayer, but many were in on the plot, no?
1.Do you think Ser Jorah is right not to trust Whitebeard? Yes, I'd be leery of everyone. I just really really hope that the last person to betray Dany is NOT going to be HIM, Jorah! That will break my frickin heart2.Did you expect Ser Jorah to make a move on Dany? Do you think she will accept his proposal? I think she will be like Queen Elizabeth I and be only wed to her country. I was not expecting him to make a move, I thought of him as a gentleman and would pine for her from afar...so I kinda was disappointed that he did make the move. BUT I think he would be good for her at the same time. I also agree, she has that whole Queen Elizabeth aura about her.
3.Sounds like Bran is really getting the hang of using his third eye. I am unclear on why they are traveling beyond the wall. Who are they looking for (a person who can teach Bran)? Do we know specifically? I wish we could see how Rickon and Osha are faring! This probably sounds bad but I kinda skim over Bran's chapters. I really don't find them that interesting.
4.More confusion: Davos believes that Melisandre sent the fire on the battleships, but it was the “wildfire�, right? Or did Melisandre just add to it? I didn't think about it like that until Davos put it in that perspective. I would not put it past her to have done it!
5.Do you think Salladhor Saan betrayed Davos? Will Davos live to get his revenge on Melisandre? I don't want to believe he betrayed him, and I REALLY hope he gets his revenge.
6.Did anyone else think, “I ‘ve got a bad feeling about this� when the Kingslayer was allowed to get on a horse? Even with wrist chains, the man is crafty! funny, but I didn't. I think he talks about escaping but he is losing interest in going it alone..
8.So, we learn that Jaime had almost been betrothed to Lysa Tully (interesting!) and that he joined the Kingsguard because Cersei wanted him too (manipulative b-tch!) Do you think Tywin knew about the twins� relationship? Is that why he resigned as Hand and took Cersei back to Casterly Rock? I almost felt bad for Jamie, seriously Cersei is a B*tch and Jamie is truly in Love-obsession with her.I'm not really sure the reasoning behind Tywin moving her to Rock. But I think the whole almost betrothed to Lysa is VERY interesting.
9.Thoughts on Jaime killing the King? Sounds like Aerys wanted Jaime to kill his own father. I am wondering about the plan leading up to the assassination. Jaime is called Kingslayer, but many were in on the plot, no? again, I'm starting to cave into Jamie. Is he such an evil doer? Or is he just a pawn in the "Game of Thrones"??
Kellyflower � “This probably sounds bad but I kinda skim over Bran's chapters. I really don't find them that interesting.�Haha. I do too! I’m like, “blah blah, mystic crap, blah, he’s in Summer, blah, third eye, go back to Sansa!�
9.Thoughts on Jaime killing the King? Sounds like Aerys wanted Jaime to kill his own father. I am wondering about the plan leading up to the assassination. Jaime is called Kingslayer, but many were in on the plot, no?
So I just had some random thoughts to share about the whole "Kingslayer" business. To be honest, I don't get what the big deal is. Jaime killed a guy who people commonly referred to as the "mad king." Maybe I could understand people who fought on the Targaryens side hating Jaime, but I can’t really understand others despising him so much for what he did. I get that they think going against his vows was despicable ... but seriously? They should be thanking him for doing the right thing! Because of him, they won the war.
I read somewhere (I’m pretty sure it wasn’t here. I think it was of AGoT) that what Jaime did was akin to someone in the Secret Service putting a bullet in the president’s head. That would be absolutely horrifying. But it's a completely wrong metaphor. It would be closer to if one of Saddam Hussein’s closest people put a bullet in his head. There may be people who don’t like the president, but he’s not a dictator (no matter what certain may like to say). We elected the president (and I say "we" in a general sense - not because I'm trying to start a political discussion). No one elected Aerys. No one elected Hussein. He took power and then held a bogus election two decades later where he won like 99% of the vote. Aerys got the throne because he was a Targaryen and it got passed to him.
Personally, I have no problems with Jaime being the “Kingslayer.� I have problems with him being a jackass, sleeping with his sister, attacking Ned in the streets and killing his men, and throwing Bran out a window. But that kingslaying business was his smartest and proudest moment.
Maybe someone else can convince me otherwise? Because the more people are mean to him and call him Kingslayer like it's this horrible thing he did, the more I want to be on his side, pat him on the back and say, "Good job, dude!"
Laura, I agree everything you said. Jaime killing the king was a good thing for the Kingdom. Also, he didn't try to take the throne for himself. He sat back and let others decide who would rule. True, he sat on the Iron Throne, but maybe there weren't other chairs around. :-) As far as Brienne chastising him, she likely doesn't know the truth about the Mad King. She is only focusing on the fact that Jaime had killed the man he had sworn to protect. She doesn't know about the circumstances.
I have read on message boards on ŷ and on ew.com (in regard to the TV show) that many people change their minds about Jaime during the course of the saga. Still, I can't forgive him for hurting Bran. Ever.
but maybe there weren't other chairs around. :-) lol! Love it! He could have lounged on one of those dragon skulls they used to keep in the hall.
There's no denying Jaime did some pretty horrible things (things that I can't ever forgive him for). I just don't understand how character can call Aerys the "mad king" in one breath and then in the next spit on Jaime for killing the crazy mofo.
And I like Brienne, awkward as she is, so I'm a little disappointed. At the very least she knows that Aerys did some horrible things. Although ... I don't know which side of the war her father was on...
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A Feast for Crows (other topics)Outlander (other topics)
A Clash of Kings (other topics)
The Secret Lives of the Four Wives (other topics)
A Storm of Swords (other topics)
This topic will tentatively start August 10th. I will attempt to break down chapters and create sign up list for questions.
Description of A Storm of Swords:
Of the five contenders for power, one is dead, another in disfavor, and still the wars rage as violently as ever, as alliances are made and broken. Joffrey, of House Lannister, sits on the Iron Throne, the uneasy ruler of the land of the Seven Kingdoms. His most bitter rival, Lord Stannis, stands defeated and disgraced, the victim of the jealous sorceress who holds him in her evil thrall. But young Robb, of House Stark, still rules the North from the fortress of Riverrun. Robb plots against his despised Lannister enemies, even as they hold his sister hostage at King’s Landing, the seat of the Iron Throne. Meanwhile, making her way across a blood-drenched continent is the exiled queen, Daenerys, mistress of the only three dragons still left in the world....
But as opposing forces maneuver for the final titanic showdown, an army of barbaric wildlings arrives from the outermost line of civilization. In their vanguard is a horde of mythical Others--a supernatural army of the living dead whose animated corpses are unstoppable. As the future of the land hangs in the balance, no one will rest until the Seven Kingdoms have exploded in a veritable storm of swords. . .
Here are the chapter divisions so we can all stay in sync:
Questions for Prologue - Chapter 3 (Arya)
This section didn't have a huge bunch of questions, but I thought it was a good beginning to the third book.
1) I always wondered in the back of my mind about how loyal people who were forced to take the black would be to the cause. Were you surprised that a group was ready to rebel?
2) When the horn blew for the third time were you surprised? We hadn't heard from the Others in a while and how ironic they show up with the first flakes of snow. I expected it to be the Wildings come a bit early.
3) Brienne seems quite resourceful. Were you surprised by how she took charge and put a hole through the ship with a boulder?
4) Were you surprised by Jamie being faithful to Cersei? She is definitely not faithful.
5) Who the heck sent someone to kill Bran in his bed? The plot thickens. Could it have been Littlefinger?
6) Surprised Jaime didn't bash Brienne over the head with an oar? I was.
7) I'm still confused about what potentially happened to Lysa. Did she have a child before she got married, and, if so whose?
8) Feeling any sympathy for Lysa?
9) Is Sansa doomed? Who did the worse thing Edmure or Catelyn. Both were definitely wrong.
10) We finally know what happened to Ayra. Seems like we pick up on her story were we last heard (which seems a bit out of sync with everything else) of her in the last book. Do you think her wolf is coming back? Do you think the dream was her having a mind meld with her wolf?
Questions for Chapter 4 (Tyrion) � Chapter 7 (Jon)
11) Poor Tyrion! His face and body so battered. Do you think Ser Bronn will remain faithful? Will he find a connection between Ser Mandon Moore and Queen Cersei? What good will it do, except give him certainty? Think he’ll act on any knowledge gained?
12) What was your initial impression of Ser Addam Marband, commander of the gold cloaks?
13) What happened to those 'almost warm feelings' the last time Lord Tywin saw Tyrion? Were you surprised Tyrion was so unappreciated by his father? Did it piss you off as much as it did me? Is this Cersei’s doing?
14) Think Lord Tywin is going to pay for his treatment of Alayaya? Is it possible you are now even more worried about Shae being discovered?
15) Were you surprised Tyrion asked for Casterly Rock? What about Lord Tywin's response? Think Tyrion will possess it one day?
16) Davos is still alive! Wow. Little bit of a vision quest taking place out there on Onion Island, huh? Comments. Now just what is he planning?
17) On first learning of Sansa’s invite from Margaery Tyrell, what did you think her motivation was?
18) Did Ser Loras really not remember Sansa? I guess I’m a little dense, but I didn’t understand how Sansa had offended Ser Loras by mentioning his unhorsing Robar Royce. Because treachery and conspiracy was involved later that day, therefore he was reminded of her father’s supposed duplicity?
19) What did you think of Lady Olenna, Queen of Thorns? Should Sansa have confided in her and her court? Can Sansa trust them? Did you think the song went along with what they were discussing in a macabre sort of way?
20) Did you feel a little sorry for Sansa, spinning her romantic notions of a knight in shining armor again? Or were you just disgusted with her naïve?
21) Did you know the turncloak, Mance Rayder, King-beyond-the-Wall, was the one sitting in the middle of the tent playing the lute and singing? Any significance in the song he sang? What did you think of his captains, chiefs? How about that he sent them away and left his wife, Dalla, to listen to their talk?
22) What do you think of Jon Snow’s “undercover� work? Will he be successful? Will he stay true? Make and alliance between the wildings and the Night’s Watch? Maybe get them to join forces to fight the Others?
Questions for Chapter 8 (Daenerys) - Chapter 11 (Jaime)
23.Do you think Ser Jorah is right not to trust Whitebeard? (Just an observation, since there was so little of Dany in the previous book, I liked how there was a paragraph recapping what she’s been through.)
24.We now know that Dany enjoys feeding her dragons in the nude (ha ha!). What a visual: the dragons roasting their own meat! That would come in handy at barbecues. Did you expect Ser Jorah to make a move on Dany? Do you think she will accept his proposal? I think she will be like Queen Elizabeth I and be only wed to her country.
25.Sounds like Bran is really getting the hang of using his third eye. I am unclear on why they are traveling beyond the wall. Who are they looking for (a person who can teach Bran)? Do we know specifically? I wish we could see how Rickon and Osha are faring!
26.More confusion: Davos believes that Melisandre sent the fire on the battleships, but it was the “wildfire�, right? Or did Melisandre just add to it?
27.Do you think Salladhor Saan betrayed Davos? Will Davos live to get his revenge on Melisandre?
28.Did anyone else think, “I ‘ve got a bad feeling about this� when the Kingslayer was allowed to get on a horse? Even with wrist chains, the man is crafty!
29.Bit of a digression…in this chapter Elia of Dorne is mentioned (wife of Rhaegar). Does Mance Rayder’s song about the Dornishman’s wife have something to do with her or someone related to her?
30.So, we learn that Jaime had almost been betrothed to Lysa Tully (interesting!) and that he joined the Kingsguard because Cersei wanted him too (manipulative b-tch!) Do you think Tywin knew about the twins� relationship? Is that why he resigned as Hand and took Cersei back to Casterly Rock?
31.Thoughts on Jaime killing the King? Sounds like Aerys wanted Jaime to kill his own father. I am wondering about the plan leading up to the assassination. Jaime is called Kingslayer, but many were in on the plot, no?