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Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan
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Nov 17, 2008 02:02AM
I have read the first 4 books in the series some years ago and intend to read the rest of the series next year hopefully before the last book is released by Brandon Sanderson who took over after the death of Robert. I have enjoyed the series and also liked his style of writing. There is a interesting blog of Sanderson's that gives his views of each of the novels as he reread before starting work on the final book.
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Such a shame that Jordan never survived to finish and get to see how the final book was received. The first 4 books were a great read, but i have read bad reports of some of the later books in the series.


My favorite part so far has been the cleansing of the taint. I was so entranced when I first read it that I could not read another book for about 2 months. I was so worried that anything else would be such a disappointment afterward!
And as for A Memory of Light, I made the point of reading Brian Sanderson's Mistborn to see how I liked his writing style. If you have not read Mistborn and you like Wheel of Time, you have to read it! It was amazing!




The only book that I really dislike is Crossroads of Twilight (which is book 10). This is the one that seemed to really drag. *yawn*
I'm also, interstingly enough, reading Mistborn for the first time. I love it!! What a fresh new take on "magic" and all that.


I have to agree about the women characters. They seemed ok at first, but then became really annoying as the story went on.

One of my biggest problems with the series is that I don't like any of the "good" guys (or gals). Sitting here and ruminating on my favorite character, I realized I didn't have any. The only one I ever liked was Moiraine, and she's bumped off in book 2 or 3 (as I recall).

In the beginning of the series, the women were all alright as far as characters go. They were necessary, and it seemed that they were going somewhere, which was good. In the middle of the series, they got bitchy, arrogant, and insensitive (except for Min, really). I think this was a result of them coming into their abilities and being Aes Sedai and Wise Ones. If that has turned you off to the books, fear not! Later in the series, pretty much all of them get taken down a notch or two, and it really brings them back into balance with the male characters. Really, after they leave Ebou Dar is when their attitudes start taking hits, especially from Brigitte.
The new female characters, Tuon, Brigitte, and Cadsuane I think are all really well balanced characters. Sometimes they may come off as arrogant, but really that is more of a result of years of experience, even in Tuon's case. She may be young, but she has done, seen, and survived quite a lot for her age. However, most of the time they have good reason for the way they act and what they do, and I think they are all very well written characters.
As for favorite character, I's have to say mine is Matt. His memories are so integrated at this point that he doesn't even realize most of the time that he is using them, or even that they aren't his. He has maintained that mischievous aspect of himself, but it has grown with him so that it does not get in the way of his responsibilities, and mostly helps him out.

I've heard rumors that the last book or two had improved a lot over some of the middle dreck, so when the whole series is done, I may sit down and read the whole thing, start to finish, but I just haven't been very motivated to pick up the last few.

I think I feel for Moiranne because she's been taught something for so long, and invested so much of her life in the search for the Dragon Reborn, that when she finally finds him and tries to guide him nothing goes the way she was told it was supposed to. She has to fight constantly fight the internal stuggle of sticking with her "beliefs" and letting Rand make his own decisions.
Matt. Isn't it obvious? He gets to say and do things that everyone WANTS to but is afraid to.






Also, New Spring assumes that you already have a working knowledge of the setting, and thus does not go into too much detail explaining things like how magic works, or the history of the setting that makes the events of New Spring important.
I would recommend reading it either right before or right after the 4th book of the main series: Shadow Rising.

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They pick him back up in the book after the one he gets left out of, but at some point he leaves Rand out of one book except for 1 chapter and the epilogue.

Honestly, I dont know a lot of people thgat like the series. It's long and some storylines just won't die! (For example, I'd love to get my hands on Faile and Perrin for one hour alone -- just bloody GET ALONG! omg!! And the entire Shaido problem wouldn't stop!) However.. I have to say that every nuance, every bit of every storyline is a rock thrown into a lake.. it touches everything in the entire series. That is true writing talent.
As for the ladies getting all uppity as they came into their own, well they (for the most bit) were from small towns or are striving to match up to the immense power of a parent (the queen of Andor). Of course they're going to exert influence to try and test their own boundaries. That's realistic. Mat, I feel does the same thing. He is suddenly everyone's savior. He saves everyone and everything. Dude is lucky, yes, but that ego is torture on me sometimes.
I both can't wait for the last book and I dread it. It means the end of my favourite series. A mixed blessing, eh?

Well I'll know soon enough.
-- Wife of GR Author Michael J. Sullivan | The Crown Conspiracy | Avempartha


Book 11 is much more on track, but by the time I got to it, the series as a whole had kind of worn me out and I didn't care as much as I used to. I am looking forward to Sanderson's conclusion though.


As for WoT. I LOVE this series. Like Viktoria, I think I've read and re-read this series 6 or 7 times. And Eye of the World is definately my favorite of the whole series (thus far). Don't let the series be daunting to you because of how many pages, and how many books. Just take them one book at a time. It's a grand journey once you get started.

As for WoT. I LOVE this series. Like Viktori..."
Kahlen - how exciting - I can't wait to hear what you think about The Crown Conspiracy - it is a nice light fun fantasy read (IMHO). I really enjoyed Mistborn and also looking forward ot the discussion.
I certainly am going to do WoT - I think the problem is I've bitten off 3 rather large books at one time - Eye of the world, Name of the Wind, and Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell I think I have to concentrate on one them move on but I've heard such good things about each of them...
-- Wife of GR author Michael J. Sullivan: The Crown Conspiracy (10/08) | Avempartha (04/09)
I have heard of many reading this series multiple times, so that sure shows how much it is enjoyed. To read an entire series 8 or 9 times is very keen :-)

Totally! I never get enough of it. And frankly by the time you get to book ten, the material in book one is fresh and brand new! *grin*

Hell, each time a new one came out after book 5 I've re-read the series, just so that I can refresh myself as of to who was last doing what and where they were, lol! With Memory of Light, I'm going to take my time and read the whole thing again, and give the entire tale the credit it's due!

Hell, each time a new one came out after book 5 I've re-read the series, just so that I can r..."
Ditto ;)

My favorite character is actually Egwene, well once she becomes the Amrylin anyway, hated her in the beginning! I also really loved this minor character, an Aiel, named Rolan. I used to love Perrin until he got whiiiiipped by Faile, and his whole "She is my life!" attitude is SO annoying. And she is just bloody annoying :P
I'm very much looking forward to the last book, Sanderson is a superb author, I loved the Mistborn series! I'm sure he'll do an amazing job :D

Thats one thing i really enjoyed about the Wheel of Time, you could relate to the different characters easily, which is not something I find in many books i read. If you wish to find great female characters, try Ian Irvine. His main male characters usually are very clumsy, while the females are smart, very tough and adventurous.

Thanks for the heads up JJ... maybe once I have enough time to read ALL the great contemporary political philosophers AND the books I'm reading for the group, I will be able to indulge in Irvine. (pause for dramatic effect)...
*giggle* ok maybe the philosophers have eaten away my brain. I was always overambitious, but now it seems to be bordering on insanity. :D
I will add him to the plethora of palm e-books I have downloaded to read at some vague date in the future. Thanks! :)

Ohhhh someone appreciates Asmodean!!! yay! I liked him too. Still love Moiraine best though.
edit: Lanfear was damn sexy as far as the Forsaken went... or any other female character for that matter. ;)
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