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What the Flip?

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message 1: by [deleted user] (new)

How come Kafka, one of the greatest writers of the last 100 years or so, can't sustain a discussion group!


message 2: by CasualDebris (new)

CasualDebris | 2 comments I don't think he's the one to blame.


message 3: by [deleted user] (new)

I blame myself.


message 4: by CasualDebris (new)

CasualDebris | 2 comments Don't lose sleep over it. I'm sure that Kafka, in all his angst, would have forgiven you.


message 5: by Sheila (new)

Sheila | 8 comments Because most people are boring and don't think of anything beyond what's to eat. Why should you blame yourself? Me, my trouble is not enough time. I sit around thinking about Kafka after I read something, but to sit down and write on the off chance someone will read it is often beyond my energy.


message 6: by [deleted user] (new)

Sheila--but you just wrote something now?!


message 7: by Nathanimal (new)

Nathanimal | 29 comments Seriously, Michael. That is the question. What the flip?

I, for one, am a little curious about this Alireza fellow, of Iran, who started this group but has yet to show himself around here at all. He's like our very own Herr Klamm. We might peek through a hole in the internet and find him asleep at his laptop.


message 8: by Sheila (new)

Sheila | 8 comments Michael, if I actually wrote something, it would take up the whole page. I remember when I read Metamorphis (I read it three times, two translations) one of the things that intrigued me was translating the term cockroach out of the German, one translation said insect, I believe, it's been a couple of years, but the German was much more specific and cockroach worked better. And after thinking about it for awhile, I think the protangonist, Gregor, was actually the villain and not the victim.


message 9: by Nathanimal (new)

Nathanimal | 29 comments Sheila, this is a fertile topic. Let's start a new discussion thread around it!


message 10: by Sheila (new)

Sheila | 8 comments Have at it!


message 11: by Phillip (last edited Mar 31, 2012 05:24AM) (new)

Phillip | 54 comments The "Un" in Ungeziefer shows "not" == alienation, although my German is only due to 2 years in Germany (ie others know German better) - the Ziefer somehow is bug and relates to Jaws! Gregor's diet which is totally different from what it was (milk not appealing!) shows a transformation to a different state that alienates him totally from his family who can only lock him up in his room and hope that he returns into their "clan" ...
Gregor is neither hero nor villain, rather both & neither > he is alienated. The WINGS are critical and more on this in the other thread.


message 12: by Alice43 (new)

Alice43 | 7 comments Michael wrote: "How come Kafka, one of the greatest writers of the last 100 years or so, can't sustain a discussion group!"

What the Flip is right!

I was and am obssesed after I read the Trial.

Is there a short story thread?


message 13: by [deleted user] (new)

HI Alice..you could start one! Which stories do you want to discuss?


message 14: by Alice43 (new)

Alice43 | 7 comments I have read The Penal Colony, and now I am reading The Judgement.

We could start with The Penal Colony.


message 15: by [deleted user] (new)

The Penal Colony is a good one..I haven't read the Judgement in a while.


message 16: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 54 comments WHAT THE FLIP > How many threads does Kafka need. The problem, however, to address the original question which was: Why can't the kafka group maintain a decent thread, is (like so many other things) easily answered: IT'S THE INTERNET STUPID. However, like with Kafka - there is actually a thread in all of the above and people who know Kafka well love to write about him - which is why there are so many books >> Anybody wish to read my recent translation > we could start another thread and discuss all 9 Stories and the 3 excerpts from the Novels - that would satisfy the original question....Essential Kafka; Authorhouse.com


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